Five Pointed Star

Bina

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Wow thank you for this insight! Much appreciated. Thanks for pointing out that the chart points to the MC - I did not realise this before. I need to find a way to use my interests and abilities towards a career and life path. I've thought about writing, being an author (ruler of MC in the 3rd house), and I am currently an ancient history and archaeology student - history, archaeology, genealogy, ancestry, agriculture, these are all very 4th house things, where a lot of my planets are. I would also like to learn an instrument. I have lots of interests but it's hard for me to direct them towards the MC - very hard actually with Mars/Saturn squaring the MC. I have a lot of self-doubt and change of heart as my passions change with the wind... I have also thought about becoming a counselor, training to be a therapist which is very Cancer MC.

:mars: and :saturn: are in their detrimental signs making the opposition hardest! I don't feel at ease around most people my age and my peer group with this opposition and with Saturn on the Desc. I feel more comfortable around older and mature people. I do also want a partner who is much older than me.
With this aspect though, I do feel very restricted from expressing myself - frustrating for a 5th house Sun!
With Saturn opposite my Ascendant/Mars conjunction, it is hard for me to express myself in the way I would like to or the way I feel I am inside - so I do get misunderstood as Mars tends to come out, but I don't feel that is really who I am, for me it's just a persona. Because it is difficult to express, I tend to stay introverted in the 4th house. I feel what comes out is a misrepresentation and I am trying to figure out what I could do to fix this.

Saturn is also conjunct the South Node... I feel like these problems are because of past life issues because of the SN.

What would you say about Chiron in Scorpio in the 2nd squaring all of my planets in the 4th house? My Chiron is heavily afflicted...

I really appreciate your feedback, thank you! :smile:

The chart pattern in the bottom half of your chart with the 3 consecutive sextiles and the opposition is called a cradle.

http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandsextile-cradle-aspects.html

Your chart is also a bowl chart, with the rim of the bowl being the Mars/Saturn opposition.

http://www.myastrologybook.com/Bowl-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm

Yes, the Mars/Saturn opposition is also conjunct the nodes, you are right, you may have experienced a lot of restrictions and difficulties in past lives due to Saturn on the SN. In this life you are trying to get away from this, moving towards your NN, and you might react strongly or get angry when others impose restrictions on you. At that time your Mars will feel the need to act and you have to assert yourself, you might have to work hard on learning this, but it is important as the NN represents what we need to learn in order to feel happy in this life. This may at first feel uncomfortable, but will get better with practise. Your Sun/Uranus conjunction in Aquarius also adds to the wish for freedom and independence, in the 5th house self-expression is vital to you.

I saw that Chiron square, it is complex...there may be some wounding in experiencing love and joy easily - perhaps to do with your family?...Did you make everyone else in your family happy, but no-one did this for you? Were there money problems or issues in your family? Your sense of values may be wounded due to your family situation or background...Watch out for the Chiron cycle aspects (squares, opposition and return) as these will trigger the natal square. Your first Chiron square may have been a trigger event, Chiron made a square to it's natal position at the same time as it passed over all the planets in your stellium. Did anything really significant happen to you when you were around 8-9 years old? Did anything happen in your family or home at that time?

The following links can help you understand the individual Chiron aspects separately:

http://astrofix.net/2012/02/06/chironneptune-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/07/19/venuschiron-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/09/15/jupiterchiron-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/11/16/chironuranus-aspects/

To sum it up, I feel your chart is powerful with great potentials due to the stellium and the strong aspect configurations, but it will take time to work it all out. Challenging Saturn aspects usually get easier to deal with after the first Saturn return.
There are many indicators of a need for self-expression, but always other factors in the chart holding you back. You need to find some kind of balance in this and overcome many obstacles on your path. I feel that you are a strong person and will come out happy, that stellium in your chart is really quite amazing! You have no retrograde planets, so full steam ahead in this life! :smile::smile:

Take care,
Bina
 
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david starling

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The thing that is so powerful about it in my view is that none of them intersect the birth location circle, or the 13th house. The center circle is completely bi-passed yet there is so much going on and the word that comes to mind is unscathed.

I dated someone with a star. The thread is ongoing and I have so many questions and so few answers. When you are rejected by these people, it can make you feel very small. They are quite creative, talented, functional, and social.

Another interesting feature is that the apex of the Neptunian Yod is also a base-point for the other two. A "perfect" five-pointed star Yod combination has each one sharing a base-point with the apex of another. How often does THAT happen? :andy:
 
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angelic moon

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I have a pentagram in my natal chart. It's called the "seer" pattern I hear but I haven't found any satisfactory responses. There isn't much on the internet about this pattern either.
 
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hebrewlaborer

Account Closed
I really appreciate your feedback, thank you! :smile:

The chart pattern in the bottom half of your chart with the 3 consecutive sextiles and the opposition is called a cradle.

http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandsextile-cradle-aspects.html

Your chart is also a bowl chart, with the rim of the bowl being the Mars/Saturn opposition.

http://www.myastrologybook.com/Bowl-planetary-pattern-astrology.htm

Yes, the Mars/Saturn opposition is also conjunct the nodes, you are right, you may have experienced a lot of restrictions and difficulties in past lives due to Saturn on the SN. In this life you are trying to get away from this, moving towards your NN, and you might react strongly or get angry when others impose restrictions on you. At that time your Mars will feel the need to act and you have to assert yourself, you might have to work hard on learning this, but it is important as the NN represents what we need to learn in order to feel happy in this life. This may at first feel uncomfortable, but will get better with practise. Your Sun/Uranus conjunction in Aquarius also adds to the wish for freedom and independence, in the 5th house self-expression is vital to you.

I saw that Chiron square, it is complex...there may be some wounding in experiencing love and joy easily - perhaps to do with your family?...Did you make everyone else in your family happy, but no-one did this for you? Were there money problems or issues in your family? Your sense of values may be wounded due to your family situation or background...Watch out for the Chiron cycle aspects (squares, opposition and return) as these will trigger the natal square. Your first Chiron square may have been a trigger event, Chiron made a square to it's natal position at the same time as it passed over all the planets in your stellium. Did anything really significant happen to you when you were around 8-9 years old? Did anything happen in your family or home at that time?

The following links can help you understand the individual Chiron aspects separately:

http://astrofix.net/2012/02/06/chironneptune-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/07/19/venuschiron-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/09/15/jupiterchiron-aspects/
http://astrofix.net/2011/11/16/chironuranus-aspects/

To sum it up, I feel your chart is powerful with great potentials due to the stellium and the strong aspect configurations, but it will take time to work it all out. Challenging Saturn aspects usually get easier to deal with after the first Saturn return.
There are many indicators of a need for self-expression, but always other factors in the chart holding you back. You need to find some kind of balance in this and overcome many obstacles on your path. I feel that you are a strong person and will come out happy, that stellium in your chart is really quite amazing! You have no retrograde planets, so full steam ahead in this life! :smile::smile:

Take care,
Bina

Thanks for the links, I read them and they were highly informative, wow. I have a "lower hemispheric bowl" and the interpretation is dead on accurate. Mars is also my "cutting planet" and cuts through my Ascendant, which is probably why I do not relate to Libra Ascendant qualities and more to Aries/Scorpio qualities. The lower hemispheric bowl influence not only means I'm self contained, but it is the most private of the four types of hemispheric bowls. I do feel more Cancerian, with the 4th house dominance.

This is probably the thing that describes and explains me well, so really thank you for the link to that :smile:

As for Chiron, yes I have experienced some wounding in my family life unfortunately, but who hasn't to some extent. It has affected my self-worth yes. My dad had alcohol problems and my parents relationship was really bad at times (Capricorn and a Libra both have Venus in Scorpio).
Overall I was loved and childhood was blissful but there were a few occasional traumatic things. We were always moving house quite frequently and I lived in many homes as indicated by Uranus. When I was 9 my brother was born and I was no longer the youngest child. Around the first Chiron square, I witnessed fights and a lot of terror in family. Pluto is actually transiting my 4th so a lot of that stuff that happened I am working through processing in my adult life, and I have been in therapy already.

Pluto is not done with me though, he will pass over my stellium in the years to come.

Thank you for your wonderful views and for thinking my chart is powerful. I think everyone's charts are powerful and that's what is so amazing about astrology! Everyone is different. Yeah I have no :retrograde: planets but with the lower hemispheric bowl shape, I do feel very "contained" and with the "rim opposition" of Mars and Saturn at the rim of the bowl, well, Saturn lends its influence towards restriction and being strongly internal. So I sometimes feel like I have retrogrades, even if it's not technically the same.

Thank you Bina! Take care. :smile:
 
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Monk

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I have a few Quintiles and Bi-Quintiles if you are a "modern astrologer" and use Chiron and Ceres, i have also used mean Moon node.
I don't take any notice, even if they were there, large patterns are too difficult to interpret. However i did check to see if i had 666 stamped on my butt, LOL!


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angelic moon

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Nice I just saw a reply to this post.. this is my chart. I never really had an astrologer tell me much about it still. But I can somehow see how it might work with little information. However it is still scarce. If anyone cares to venture and look into this let me know...thanks

https://ibb.co/jVY2fq6
 

Cypocryphy

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Have any of you come across this chart pattern? It really is pretty remarkable to see in a nativity. I've only seen it resoundingly in 1 chart and it was the chart of one of the most famous DJs Jamaica has ever produced. Quite literally, this person is a "star".

Here is a bio of him: http://www.allmusic.com/artist/beenie-man-mn0000788508/biography

I know another personally who has a much more looser version of the five pointed star and they are also quite a bit of a star both locally and internationally. Another with that "star quality"

For the people specifically who note chart patterns, I'd love to hear your take on the five pointed star/pentagon and the lives of people with it. If there is a similar trajectory of people's lives, this could become something "canonized" in modern astrology. What do you all think?

Came across this post. I suppose if you use the word "remarkable" literally. I don't believe it means anything in and of itself, although I haven't see enough charts (100 or more) to really have a clear idea what it might consistently pertain to or manifest during the life of an individual.

Nevertheless, I have heard some called it ... something about the Devil. The Star of the Devil? Something like that. I suppose, if we are to assume it has meaning, you could say that symbolically it represents spirit bogged down by gross matter. Another way to say that is the story of the fallen Angels, or the human race succumbing to all earthly pleasure. It's always had some negative association to it from my experience, usually with the theme being "the corruption of spirit."

Here's an example of a chart that has that, including these planets :uranus:, :pluto: and :neptune:

https://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.c... 1960&adblink=/astro-databank/Dahmer,_Jeffrey
 
I have a somewhat similar chart that I am working on interpreting. I have been told i have something called "Pandora's Box' but not sure if thats the case. The 5 pointed start is all four elements plus Spirit and Pandora's Box is contained chaos aka catalytic energy and that is an equivocal force in my life both for myself and those that I read and channel for. Don't let someone "interpret" your chart and assign their truth to you. Period. All this is intuitively available to us.
 

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