Donald Trump will be impeached.

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david starling said:
It's all going to hit the fan when Saturn reaches 28 degrees tropical Capricorn at the end of February 2020. Then we'll see if this nation will survive as a Democratic-Republic under the Constitution, as written.
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You could be right. By then all the Deep State conspirators will have been named and shamed and preparing for their trials. Attorney General Barr has assembled a team already to investigate the FISA abuses which were used in the Russia hoax coup attempt.

Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch just found thousands more Hillary emails containing classified information and others talking about a coverup. He has been working hard using FOIA requests to get all of these documents showing how deep and high the corruption of the Obama administration went.

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press...latest-production-of-clinton-email-documents/

By the way, your dream girl Occasional-Cortex only won her seat by a fluke. A new book has revealed that her opponent, long time swamp creature Congressman Crowley could have released his opposition research showing her violation of campaign finance laws but didn't bother because he thought she was no threat and he'd easily win. Now, of course, the FEC is investigating her. Never take anything for granted!
 
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Re: Donald Trump will be not be impeached.

david starling said:
Trump's the military's choice for a (so called) "Benevolent-dictator". The Russians played the Electoral College like a violin, just like Trump plays his gullible followers.
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If you are so scared for a russian involvement in the election...

Then shouldn't you support voter ID laws, which would make elections far more transparent, easier to recount in case of a close call, and help avoid any foreign power "meddling" in it?
 
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For the Loonies who are always saying how panicked, scared and desperate Trump is :biggrin: here is an impromptu 10 min. press conference Trump did today on the way to his helicopter. Sound is not great. He is so fired up and confident, talking about how Spygate was the biggest political scandal in history trying to take down a president. Treason! AG Barr is investigating how the Russia hoax got started. Finally justice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o-8MNHs8Uk

Will complicit propaganda left wing mainstream media claim they had 'bad sources' or will they claim they were just stupid?
 
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I am wondering something.

Did any of the astrologers that are predicting his imminent impeachment also predict his election win?

Most of the Astrologers predicted Hilary was going to win, IIRC.
 
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david starling

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katydid said:
I am wondering something.

Did any of the astrologers that are predicting his imminent impeachment also predict his election win?

Most of the Astrologers predicted Hilary was going to win, IIRC.
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Hi katydid!:joyful:
Those who predicted she would win using astrology were correct about the Popular Vote. Those who predicted he would win, using astrology, were right about the Electoral Vote.
 
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katydid

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david starling said:
Hi katydid!:joyful:
Those who predicted she would win using astrology were correct about the Popular Vote. Those who predicted he would win, using astrology, were right about the Electoral Vote.
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LMAO. Well that's pretty much a cop out. It doesn't matter what the popular vote was.

The question was who was. going to win the election and become President, Right?
 
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katydid said:
LMAO. Well that's pretty much a cop out. It doesn't matter what the popular vote was.

The question was who was. going to win the election and become President, Right?
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Sounds like Horary! Depends on how you word it. But, it is an unusual situation, since all other public offices are determined using popular only.
 
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katydid

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david starling said:
Sounds like Horary! Depends on how you word it. But, it is an unusual situation, since all other public offices are determined using popular only.
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Oh come on. If you are predicting the Presidential election, there is no confusion about how the election is decided. It is not 'unusual' that the electoral college decides the final vote.

Using that as an explanation is silly, in my opinion.
 
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katydid said:
Oh come on. If you are predicting the Presidential election, there is no confusion about how the election is decided. It is not 'unusual' that the electoral college decides the final vote.

Using that as an explanation is silly, in my opinion.
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If the Popular Vote is so inconsequential, why even bother keeping track of it? And, there have been only 5 times in history that an elected President lost the Popular Vote and still became President. THAT'S unusual.
 
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david starling

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When it comes to electing public officials, the Electoral College method is an aberration. I can easily see an astrologer not fully acquainted with it failing to factor it in.
 
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Many of you don't understand how the electoral process works. Educate yourselves.

The Electoral College vote totals determine the winner, not the statistical plurality or majority a candidate may have in the nation-wide popular vote totals. Electoral votes are awarded on the basis of the popular vote in each state.

Note that 48 out of the 50 States award Electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis (as does the District of Columbia). For example, all 55 of California’s Electoral votes go to the winner of the state election, even if the margin of victory is only 50.1 percent to 49.9 percent.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#ecpopulardiffer
 
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Everybody who voted for the Presidential Republican ticket in California had their votes thrown in the trash. In Texas, all those who voted for the Presidential Democratic ticket had those votes thrown away. That's how the E.C. works--by disenfranchising about half the voters in America. So much for "one man, one vote" when it comes to electing a President. :annoyed:
 
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david starling said:
When it comes to electing public officials, the Electoral College method is an aberration. I can easily see an astrologer not fully acquainted with it failing to factor it in.
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Well, any astrol0ger that is going to try and predict a Presidential election, should know that the electoral college is the final arbiter. It is not an aberration.

How could you predict a presidential election if you never watched one. If you had ever seen one, you'd have spent the entire time wartching the ELECTORAL RESULTS.

David, you are a smart guy. Are you seriously saying that the electoral college is just an aberration and not the constitutionally required element used to elect the President?

It is not an aberration if the electoral college is the sole requirement used to determine the election.
 
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david starling said:
Everybody who voted for the Presidential Republican ticket in California had their votes thrown in the trash. In Texas, all those who voted for the Presidential Democratic ticket had those votes thrown away. That's how the E.C. works--by disenfranchising about half the voters in America. So much for "one man, one vote" when it comes to electing a President. :annoyed:
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If you threw out the EC, then every single vote in the rural middle states would have their votes thrown away.

Look up:
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The entire nation is red. The only blue is the two coasts.
 
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david starling said:
There was also the uncertainty of Hillary's time of birth.
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That is a more valid argument. But they did have Trumps correct Birth Time and discounted him entirely.

I say this because I was pretty disappointed by the work Dione by many astrologers. It seemed to me that many were just going to what they wished or hop0ed for or assumed and not by what was real.
 
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david starling

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katydid said:
Well, any astrol0ger that is going to try and predict a Presidential election, should know that the electoral college is the final arbiter. It is not an aberration.

How could you predict a presidential election if you never watched one. If you had ever seen one, you'd have spent the entire time wartching the ELECTORAL RESULTS.

David, you are a smart guy. Are you seriously saying that the electoral college is just an aberration and not the constitutionally required element used to elect the President?

It is not an aberration if the electoral college is the sole requirement used to determine the election.
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I meant "aberration" regarding all other elected offices. It was a requirement by the Southern, "Slave-States" before they would join the Union, to prevent an Anti-Slavery President from being elected , and it worked until Southern States began seceding just before the Civil War. It worked by giving extra Electoral votes to less populated States, making their in-State votes worth more in a Presidential election that those of votes in the more populated States. It was, and still is, a form of affirmative action.
I've noticed that all those national Polls regarding a President's "approval rating" are useless, because they address only the likely, overall Popular-vote, which, as you point out, has nothing to do with electing a President.
 
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The electoral college was also used to prevent the city foik from taking all the decision making away from the rural population.

That is exactly what would happen if they took away the EC.
New York City and Los Angeles would be making all the national decisions for this country. And the farmers and small town flyover peeps would have no input at all.
 
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david starling

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katydid said:
If you threw out the EC, then every single vote in the rural middle states would have their votes thrown away.

Look up:
Image result for trumps votes by districts


The entire nation is red. The only blue is the two coasts.
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It's red by percentage only. It's actually purple, because the red votes and blue votes in each State should be considered together. Plenty of blue votes in a "red" State, and vice versa. What you seem to be saying is, that if you voted for the losing candidate in a Popular-vote system, your vote was thrown away, which isn't the case. It WAS counted, it just wasn't enough.
But, if you live in California, and you voted Republican for President, your vote actually WAS thrown away, because ALL the California E.C. votes were blue, regardless of the fact that the State is about 1/3 red.
 
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