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Re: Questioning validity of astrology after learning that western sign were incorrect

Originally Posted by muchacho View Post
Pingree's theory is actually a controversial one. I remember Ben Dykes taking Pingree to task over taking too many liberties in that regard (I can't remember in which book, but I'll find it if you need it).

As you say, the two traditions are very close and if Hellenistic astrology would be far more complex and sophisticated than Indian astrology then Pingree would have a point. In actuality, however, it's the other way around. That's why I never paid much attention to the linguistic argument, even though it is undeniable. Personally, I don't really care who gave who what first. That's something to quibble over for historians and scholars, not astrologers. What I can say though is that much can be gained from studying vedic astrology if you are a traditional western astrologer and studying traditional western astrology if you are a vedic astrologer. It helps putting things into perspective.
It is controversial in circles who believe their horoscopic astrology is 5000 years old, not in scholarly circles. There are loaned words in Indian astrology from Greek (which have no meaning in Sanskrit), but not the other way around. As for complexity and sophistication, I would have studied Indian instead of Hellenistic, unless you meant an amassing of many contradictory methods and traditions, which ancient method has mostly been lost in the latter tradition (Ptolemy and Valens talk about this being the case with the ''Old Astrologers''). But we have methods for pretty much everything in life in Western astrology, we don't need an impractical and unnatural complexity involving divisions and combination of everything one can possible come up with astronomically, or do we? Nature is pleased with simplicity.

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