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Updated natal chart with the right birth time this time, want to see how much changes

So after asking a family member for the exact birth time since I heard even an hour apart can make a difference, here is my chart. Not sure how much is change or whether there is much fighting spirit in it to help me overcome life obstacles and be a strong person.


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Re: Updated natal chart with the right birth time this time, want to see how much cha

Just a slight shift in where the houses start, but of course the aspects and sign placements of planets are the same. Maybe one or two items right near a house boundary would have moved to the adjacent house. You could see this yourself by comparing charts.

Have you found anything useful in the responses that have already been given?
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Just a slight shift in where the houses start, but of course the aspects and sign placements of planets are the same. Maybe one or two items right near a house boundary would have moved to the adjacent house. You could see this yourself by comparing charts.

Have you found anything useful in the responses that have already been given?
Not at all since the chart was different.

I find it tough to believe how I am weak and spineless based on my chart when I have a lot of aspects with Pluto, that should make me good at gaining power but am trying to see just how much of a b-tch saturn oppositions and the 12th house are.

I am told I am not hungry for money and power yet that is all I think of on a daily basis so I am trying to see where the inconsistencies are because I am hearing 10 different things about my chart.
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Your chart changes a great deal. And it describes you better. Career is emphasised and so are power struggles and conflict. I'll add more later.
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Your chart changes a great deal. And it describes you better. Career is emphasised and so are power struggles and conflict. I'll add more later.
What gives that away?
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Venus, ruler of your 10th house of career, prestige and social standing, is right on your ascendant. Its the first thing I saw when I looked at your chart.

Now your ascendant is ruled by Sun, and not Mercury. The Sun is a planet that is much inclined toward ruler-ship, respect, will and being the best/on top of the pile. There are quite a few Virgo Ascendants on this forum, and you and them have a different presentation, and definitely a different focus.

Traditionally, there are 3 houses that were linked to enemies, and these are the 6th, 7th and 12th. In your chart, the ruler of your 7th house is Saturn, located in the 6th house opposed to your ascendant ruler (you) Sun, in the 12th. You view the world in terms of winners vs. losers, black and white - this guy needs to go down because he's my enemy -- with the amount of fixity and the pluto aspects, you have the potential to be a nasty enemy, hell-bent on destroying the will of the opponent. And now that elevated Mars makes even more sense, as it re-emphasizes your combative way of viewing the world.

This chart actually makes me think that your story has validity, where previously it seemed like you being a ***** and overreacting (I won't discount that this still might be the case, mind you). But, having Algol conjunct the MC, and the Sun-Saturn opposition in 6th-12th axis domiciled (where Saturn in 6th can be descriptive of conflicts in the work environment), does show that you aren't necessarily making this up.

I'm not seeing where you're motivated by any higher ideals, no matter what some say about the 12th house, but what I do see is you getting into a position where the both the 6th and 12th houses take on their more darker meanings - losses, falls, and entrenchment into toxic patterns that may have an effect on your health, just to name a few. (asc ruler is in the 12th and opposite Saturn - always remember that in the course of your hard-driving for success)
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Hi, AstroAssist

I understand your views are colored by your unfortunate experiences.

But if I may, real power comes from inspiring willing cooperation from other people and from mutual respect and appreciation.

Forcefulness and attempts at domination will only go so far, as resentment and resistance will accumulate, leading to a lack of cooperation and knives at one's back (metaphorically at least) -- as you yourself have experienced at the receiving end.

But this is not the only dynamic or way of living available in the world.

And please remember that charts reflect potentials and tendencies as well as challenges and problem areas -- but it is up to you how you tend your garden.

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Venus, ruler of your 10th house of career, prestige and social standing, is right on your ascendant. Its the first thing I saw when I looked at your chart.

Now your ascendant is ruled by Sun, and not Mercury. The Sun is a planet that is much inclined toward ruler-ship, respect, will and being the best/on top of the pile. There are quite a few Virgo Ascendants on this forum, and you and them have a different presentation, and definitely a different focus.

Traditionally, there are 3 houses that were linked to enemies, and these are the 6th, 7th and 12th. In your chart, the ruler of your 7th house is Saturn,
how is saturn the ruler of my 7th house again?
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In pre-20th century astrology, where I take a lot of my Ps and Qs from, the scheme of planetary rulerships were as follows

Saturn - Capricorn, Aquarius
Jupiter - Sagittarius, Pisces
Mars - Aries, Scorpio
Sun - Leo
Venus - Taurus, Libra
Mercury - Gemini, Virgo
Moon - Cancer



There's a paper that outlines how the Scorpio, Aquarius and Pisces came upon their rulerships by the modern 3, but something tells me that you're not particularly interested in that line of inquiry.
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I believed him because I know these things happens but also because I know that pain doesnít always sound nice or redrafted. Especially if he grew up not having his thoughts listened to like the problem with his Dad. Although I am glad a chart can make someone sure of what truth is.
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I believed him because I know these things happens but also because I know that pain doesnít always sound nice or redrafted. Especially if he grew up not having his thoughts listened to like the problem with his Dad. Although I am glad a chart can make someone sure of what truth is.
Is that what you understood from what I said?
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Is that what you understood from what I said?
I thought it was excellently written lol 5 stars
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I find no stress in this bickering. Although off topic for Astro assist yes.
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He's had plenty of astrological assistance already. A few off topic posts won't hurt and will be deleted by tomorrow anyway.
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The thing about it all is I feel like I have to be pushed and see true evil in order for my nasty side to come out or for me to have these nasty thoughts, I am naturally a loving person that tries to see good in people.

I have never been the guy who goes out of his way to pick fights or even get on the bad side of people but I feel like I have an innate duty to deliver punishment against such evil.

Even with the nasty people I encounter in life, I don't pick fights with them, they do with me and I feel like I need to do all that is legally possible to get even, I just cannot let it slide because it will keep me up at night. My thought process is today it is me, I am a grown man and I can take it. Tomorrow, it is a helpless kid or a damsel in distress, how can I live with myself knowing I let a demon walk?

I can take jokes and all that but schemes to ruin my life, insult me in front of a crowd, and purposefully humiliate me, such nasty actions and characters cannot be allowed to rise. The truth is such under-handed and scheming people make my blood boil but it makes my blood boil even more to not get even. I literally cannot live with myself if I did not get even.

Not sure what will come of my boss and me. If it ends up being that he stays in his lane and stays out of my way, I may as well drop it altogether while avoiding all future contact. On the other hand if he tries to use me as leverage to move ahead in the future or we cross paths again in our industry, I am going to do everything within legal means to deal with him and be merciless doing so.
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The thing about it all is I feel like I have to be pushed and see true evil in order for my nasty side to come out or for me to have these nasty thoughts, I am naturally a loving person that tries to see good in people.

I have never been the guy who goes out of his way to pick fights or even get on the bad side of people but I feel like I have an innate duty to deliver punishment against such evil.

Even with the nasty people I encounter in life, I don't pick fights with them, they do with me and I feel like I need to do all that is legally possible to get even, I just cannot let it slide because it will keep me up at night. My thought process is today it is me, I am a grown man and I can take it. Tomorrow, it is a helpless kid or a damsel in distress, how can I live with myself knowing I let a demon walk?

I can take jokes and all that but schemes to ruin my life, insult me in front of a crowd, and purposefully humiliate me, such nasty actions and characters cannot be allowed to rise. The truth is such under-handed and scheming people make my blood boil but it makes my blood boil even more to not get even. I literally cannot live with myself if I did not get even.

Not sure what will come of my boss and me. If it ends up being that he stays in his lane and stays out of my way, I may as well drop it altogether while avoiding all future contact. On the other hand if he tries to use me as leverage to move ahead in the future or we cross paths again in our industry, I am going to do everything within legal means to deal with him and be merciless doing so.
Sounds like progress to me, man. Way less obsessive than how you came across when you just began posting on here.
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Sounds like progress to me, man. Way less obsessive than how you came across when you just began posting on here.
I mean I am not forgiving the scumbag for trying to ruin me but I am sticking to full on ignoring him, especially since I don't work at the place anymore now.

My only concern is moving forward if I have to cross paths with that rat again and tries to enter my life, in that case, I want to be more than ready.
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I mean I am not forgiving the scumbag for trying to ruin me but I am sticking to full on ignoring him, especially since I don't work at the place anymore now.

My only concern is moving forward if I have to cross paths with that rat again and tries to enter my life, in that case, I want to be more than ready.
Legitimately, do you have any reason as to why you'd think that he's going to chase you around and tarnish your reputation?
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I used to regularly hook up with this one girl back in college, November 1st birthday and after running a rough natal chart on her, Mars in Scorpio placement!

Jet black hair, a bit on the taller end, chiseled face, light tan and green eyes, she was a true beauty and probably the best looking chick I've slept with to this date but full on psycho. I've never felt that mixture of fear and arousal in a relationship with any other girl I've been with. She knew how to get a rise out of me and then even in the most dramatic serious moment would smile and say "it is just so cute to see you have these meltdowns"......

What's weird is looking back at it now, it pains me to admit it was the best sex I have ever had in my life. At times we would just f-ck and it would be like raw animalistic sex between us, especially that one summer we f-cked without air conditioning on.

Stopped seeing each other after realizing it was too much, she got angry and bit me really hard on my traps. A year later I am at a bar, we make eye contact and she comes running right up to me and jumps on me, we starting making out and it was so arousing... I wanted to desperately say no but the arousal had my heart beating, and we f-cked again that night. Then a couple months later it was the same old drama that drained me.

Then she graduated and moved to the other side of the country, received a few texts from her but blocked her on all social media.

I wonder what would happen if we ever met again, I hope I am mature and grown enough this time to just push her away and avoid her....
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So I have been going through my chart more and after doing the readings on the placements, it says that due to my Mars in Gemini, I am prone to letting go of things and not holding grudges. Unfortunately, I do not agree with this at all, I hold grudges and remember things for many many years.

I sure as hell do not intend to let go of the grudge I have against the scumbag who brought me to reading more about his sign, even if I have to lose my life for it.

My point being, where is this hunger for a grudge coming from in my chart?
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any thoughts?
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Point being, I'd love to date a Gemini woman.
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I miss these people.
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