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07-04-2018, 07:29 AM
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Will Brazil win Belgium
Hi to all!!
I asked the question and immediately uploaded this chart. I wonder if Brazil will eventually win Belgium on July 6th.
here the chart:
https://imgur.com/a/B7NS5KC
with the few I know about athletic horary I think Brazil will eventually win. It is my team that i support.
Brazil =  , near in the lucky fixes Star Sirius, up, in the fortune house 11th
Belgium=  , retro in the 5th house.
 in the 1th house
 will  the greate benefactor and also the planet of the successes of the great prizes, of luck and great recognition=  .
can somebody give some info on this please!
did i miss somthing here?
what do you see??
thank you
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07-04-2018, 08:26 AM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
That's not exactly how to read these charts. First get clear about which team you support or identify with. The team you support will get H1, the other team will get H7. Then you look at the house placements of your significators and especially their accidental dignities.
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07-04-2018, 08:31 AM
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That's not exactly how to read these charts. First get clear about which team you support or identify with. The team you support will get H1, the other team will get H7. Then you look at the house placements of your significators and especially their accidental dignities.
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thank you muchacho
My team is Brazil=1th house
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07-04-2018, 08:43 AM
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thank you muchacho
My team is Brazil=1th house
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@ muchacho
I wish I could help you but I am also on verge of learning ,maybe you can try fensi88
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07-04-2018, 08:49 AM
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@ muchacho
I wish I could help you but I am also on verge of learning ,maybe you can try fensi88
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thank you dear,
yes i know, Fensi and also Sven
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07-04-2018, 08:54 AM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
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thank you dear,
yes i know, Fensi and also Sven
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The chart you posted is a regular horary chart. I think Fensi and Sven mostly work with event charts only. The two approaches are different. Different logic behind it.
I'll get back to this. At first glance, it looks very much in favor of Brazil.
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07-04-2018, 03:05 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
[QUOTE=muchacho;901122]The chart you posted is a regular horary chart. I think Fensi and Sven mostly work with event charts only. The two approaches are different. Different logic behind it.
I'll get back to this. At first glance, it looks very much in favor of Brazil.[/QUOTE
Belgium captain Eden Hazard got excellent horoscope to take Belgium to semifinal or may be in final of World cup 2018.
Below is the link:
https://astrologicalmusings.com/horo...orld-cup-2018/
what do you think people?
thank you very much
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07-04-2018, 03:54 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
Hazard has a good chart. So what? You cannot bet on a team based on a singular player. It's very common to see someone play well and still lose the match. There are 11 players on each side...
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07-04-2018, 04:11 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
Plus:
The injury indications in Neymar's chart may refer to the fact that he was not in his peak at the beginning of tournament due to a recent injury.
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07-04-2018, 04:16 PM
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Hazard has a good chart. So what? You cannot bet on a team based on a singular player. It's very common to see someone play well and still lose the match. There are 11 players on each side...
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ok. fair enough.
I am supporting Brazil and wishing Brazil good luck to win either astrology or not.
Thank you
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07-04-2018, 04:32 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
Still i haven't read a reasonable prediction here for the match. I hope someone can provide us with that soon.
I also support Brazil since I'm Brazilian.
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07-04-2018, 04:55 PM
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Still i haven't read a reasonable prediction here for the match. I hope someone can provide us with that soon.
I also support Brazil since I'm Brazilian.
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You can sign up there and ask to main person : FranzuaDubal. It is spainsh language and might be helpful to you.
http://foro.astrodestino.com.ar/show...16141p101.html
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07-05-2018, 12:01 PM
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Thank you for information....
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07-05-2018, 12:04 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
One day left!!! we will see...
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07-05-2018, 03:13 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
Hi again Sunrise,
I think Brazil could not win.
Moon goes sextile with Pluto. Yes it is sextile but this is Pluto.
And also Pluto is in H7's house.
Beautiful play by Brazil (Venüs at 1st house),
Expected to win (H1 in 11th house),
But no win.
I hope i am wrong. Bye.
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07-05-2018, 03:40 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
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Hi again Sunrise,
I think Brazil could not win.
Moon goes sextile with Pluto. Yes it is sextile but this is Pluto.
And also Pluto is in H7's house.
Beautiful play by Brazil (Venüs at 1st house),
Expected to win (H1 in 11th house),
But no win.
I hope i am wrong. Bye. 
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Do you think, the match will go into extra time and Belgium will win it?
I think Brazil will have a hard game and suffered in the quarterfinals, since for that day Pluton will be on top of the natal Moon of the cycle which can tell us about a tough emotional test for the team.
Pluto is always accurate, Pluto is in H7's house. Is Belgium in H7's house?
I hope Brazil to win. Thank you
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07-05-2018, 04:23 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
I thought the question "the winner after 90 minutes". Moon sextile Pluto and no more any action for Moon.
As you said Brazil suffers but it is sextile.
Also H10 is Venus and she is in 1st house. We may think 10th house is success, victory.
May explain Brazil as winner after extra time. May not.
We will see.
Good luck to Brazil.
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07-05-2018, 05:04 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
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I thought the question "the winner after 90 minutes". Moon sextile Pluto and no more any action for Moon.
As you said Brazil suffers but it is sextile.
Also H10 is Venus and she is in 1st house. We may think 10th house is success, victory.
May explain Brazil as winner after extra time. May not.
We will see.
Good luck to Brazil.

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Thank you for your reply.
Looking at the Moon I see that it is empty of course so "nothing new" should happen and the favorite should pass the round. I hope it is Brazil.
Brazil in its debut in 1930 is very good and for that Luna VoC that can be lethal for Belgium
Is Belgium sitting in H7's house?
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07-05-2018, 05:56 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
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Hi again Sunrise,
I think Brazil could not win.
Moon goes sextile with Pluto. Yes it is sextile but this is Pluto.
And also Pluto is in H7's house.
Beautiful play by Brazil (Venüs at 1st house),
Expected to win (H1 in 11th house),
But no win.
I hope i am wrong. Bye. 
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At what chart are you looking?
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07-05-2018, 08:05 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
attached one
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07-05-2018, 11:01 PM
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Re: Will Brazil win Belgium
The birth chart of Brazil reflects your selection of wonder; the middle in cancer , with the moon in Pisces in the house 5 of the sports in trine and mutual reception to Jupiter in cancer at the door of the house 9 , also having the sun and two more planets in the 9 is easy to understand pq It has also been given to go out and compete and win overseas and curiously they have had much less luck in the two World Cups played in their homeland ...
For this year the solar return letter is the one that all students of this art would want to go abroad (and more to compete!): jupiter, the mere grouper, blessing and protecting in the ascendant (along with the mid-sky the heliacal points of the letter ) ALL the matches of the World Cup and fortune of the joint return to natal Mars , Regent of the ascendant ! The moon in conjunction with the northern node in the natal house 10 and in mutual reception with the sun . Italy in the 1982 World Cup in Spain had Jupiter in the ascendant and won. Studying the letter of Madrid and Brazil I understood pq are the team and the most laureated and followed selection (they have a similar moon jupiter configuration ) and in recent years Madrid has had jupiter favoring him for the return (and jupiter and venus sets in progression secondary ... and have won three consecutive championships)
The selections that debuted in 1930 (including Brazil) have a progressed jupiter arrived at the natal sun . France debut a day earlier he favors this and even has a stelium with fortune return conjunction to Mercury native ruler of half the sky , moon return, jupiter progressed, sun natal and fortune natal ... If Brazil wins both astrology Western as china the next candidate should be France (in the 2006 World Cup had a very similar return and reached the final)
The lunar return of Brazil to Moscow is manual Astrology : the moon in Pisces in the middle sky , with Jupiter conjunction fortune in 5 making trine to the sun in the ascendant ... impressive.
While it is true that the letter 's debut tite is not very promising, currently she has Jupiter in Scorpio in his Midheaven natal and that midheaven coincides with the upward native of Brazil! Team and Trainer united as ring to finger by the planet of the triumph, that is put direct the day 10 for the triumphal march.
Neymar does not have a very promising return either but the middle of the letterof the first match of the World Cup falls on his native jupiter. The ascendende of the final is Sagittarius (that is, the regent of the final will be on the natal ascendant of Brazil!, if he gets to play it, of course). And that moon out of the course of the final falls on Venus natal of Brazil (and France) and at the end of the game will be on the half natal sky of Neymar.
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07-06-2018, 06:33 AM
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Hi again Sunrise,
I think Brazil could not win.
Moon goes sextile with Pluto. Yes it is sextile but this is Pluto.
And also Pluto is in H7's house.
Beautiful play by Brazil (Venüs at 1st house),
Expected to win (H1 in 11th house),
But no win.
I hope i am wrong. Bye. 
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Hi efot and thank you for your opinion. I imagine that you are looking the natal chart of Brazil??? ( plouto in 7th in attached chart Pluto is in 6th)
If so yes plouto its not good.....
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07-06-2018, 06:35 AM
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The birth chart of Brazil reflects your selection of wonder; the middle in cancer , with the moon in Pisces in the house 5 of the sports in trine and mutual reception to Jupiter in cancer at the door of the house 9 , also having the sun and two more planets in the 9 is easy to understand pq It has also been given to go out and compete and win overseas and curiously they have had much less luck in the two World Cups played in their homeland ...
For this year the solar return letter is the one that all students of this art would want to go abroad (and more to compete!): jupiter, the mere grouper, blessing and protecting in the ascendant (along with the mid-sky the heliacal points of the letter ) ALL the matches of the World Cup and fortune of the joint return to natal Mars , Regent of the ascendant ! The moon in conjunction with the northern node in the natal house 10 and in mutual reception with the sun . Italy in the 1982 World Cup in Spain had Jupiter in the ascendant and won. Studying the letter of Madrid and Brazil I understood pq are the team and the most laureated and followed selection (they have a similar moon jupiter configuration ) and in recent years Madrid has had jupiter favoring him for the return (and jupiter and venus sets in progression secondary ... and have won three consecutive championships)
The selections that debuted in 1930 (including Brazil) have a progressed jupiter arrived at the natal sun . France debut a day earlier he favors this and even has a stelium with fortune return conjunction to Mercury native ruler of half the sky , moon return, jupiter progressed, sun natal and fortune natal ... If Brazil wins both astrology Western as china the next candidate should be France (in the 2006 World Cup had a very similar return and reached the final)
The lunar return of Brazil to Moscow is manual Astrology : the moon in Pisces in the middle sky , with Jupiter conjunction fortune in 5 making trine to the sun in the ascendant ... impressive.
While it is true that the letter 's debut tite is not very promising, currently she has Jupiter in Scorpio in his Midheaven natal and that midheaven coincides with the upward native of Brazil! Team and Trainer united as ring to finger by the planet of the triumph, that is put direct the day 10 for the triumphal march.
Neymar does not have a very promising return either but the middle of the letterof the first match of the World Cup falls on his native jupiter. The ascendende of the final is Sagittarius (that is, the regent of the final will be on the natal ascendant of Brazil!, if he gets to play it, of course). And that moon out of the course of the final falls on Venus natal of Brazil (and France) and at the end of the game will be on the half natal sky of Neymar.
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Hirgurung20!! What a great analysis
Thank you
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07-06-2018, 06:44 AM
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I thought the question "the winner after 90 minutes". Moon sextile Pluto and no more any action for Moon.
As you said Brazil suffers but it is sextile.
Also H10 is Venus and she is in 1st house. We may think 10th house is success, victory.
May explain Brazil as winner after extra time. May not.
We will see.
Good luck to Brazil.

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Also Jupiter here is angular in the 4th house ( the end of case), collecting the light of Sun and moon
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07-06-2018, 07:43 AM
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Hi efot and thank you for your opinion. I imagine that you are looking the natal chart of Brazil??? ( plouto in 7th in attached chart Pluto is in 6th)
If so yes plouto its not good.....
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Hello,
I mean that Pluto is in h7's house. Not 7.house.
H7 is Saturn and in this attached horary chart, Saturn's houses is 6th and 7th.
Dc is Belgium and Pluto comes from 6th house to cutting way of Moon, so winning of Brazil.
Am i too much flying?  Of course its my opinion. Blessings.
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