Do you believe in curses?

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

So am I cursed now?

Lol no no, you'll just dream of me...il just say hello and wander off...

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

Lol no no, you'll just dream of me...il just say hello and wander off...

I can't wait! What do you look like so I'll know?

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

I can't wait! What do you look like so I'll know?

I was just thinking that...if I do appear in your dream, you should come back and tell me what I looked like..?

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

I was just thinking that...if I do appear in your dream, you should come back and tell me what I looked like..?

Okay, I'll let you know tomorrow :3

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

Okay, I'll let you know tomorrow :3

This'll be interesting haha

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by Blue03Red

Bluebelle87, whats your sun sign? Youre definitely scary just by reading your previous posts...

I'm an Aries. I don't think it's scary. Given the situation, I think I did the right thing. As soon as I saw my friend in trouble, I neutralized the situation, and according to a martial art friend I know, putting someone in a chokehold is the most painless, peaceful way to have done it. And I did it without time to think. That's what a Aries does for her friends.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by Blue03Red

Scary = cool, nah this is just my weird vocabulary.

Ah ok yeah that's cool then! I'm not scary at all in rl haha. The way I see it, doing the right thing is more important than what some government-made law says...

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

This'll be interesting haha

LOL i can't even remember what I dreamt last night.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

LOL i can't even remember what I dreamt last night.

Hahahha...I never actually even tried to send out any vibes your way so I was interested to see if it would still work or not. See if you can try the shamanic spirit guide thing I wrote a thread on it and see what animal comes your way. That's much nicer than appearing in someone's dreams, although I might try sometime ;p

[Bluebell87]

I feel like Hannibal Lector... 😈

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

Hahahha...I never actually even tried to send out any vibes your way so I was interested to see if it would still work or not. See if you can try the shamanic spirit guide thing I wrote a thread on it and see what animal comes your way. That's much nicer than appearing in someone's dreams, although I might try sometime ;p

I'll give that a go

[Kitchy]

my curses on others usually involve skin rashes or stunted success for others. one time, in speaking of a former boss who embezzled all kinds of money and then got caught - put everyone around her through the ringer for being a 'knowing part of it' - which was total ******** - everyone knew she was doing something weird with the money, but she made it out on paper to look normal - which none of us could figure out. anyway, after all the employer's investigators showed up and asked folks what we knew - everyone was cleared and we were expected to sign a legal document saying we would never speak of this to anyone or we would be prosecuted! It was a federally funded non-profit that had city payroll and county employee contracts all over the county. they called it an 'intergovernmental agency' at the time. anyway - we all stayed on our jobs with a bitter heart and she was fired but not prosecuted. there were implications that she returned the money and i know right after that that she and her partner sold their million dollar home and disppeared to live in the oregon wilderness. i told my coworkers - don't worry, she'll get hers.

whether it was a curse? who can say - but she ended up 3 years later getting an inoperable brain tumor and died within a few months. her family sent memorial invitations to all of her former employees and i was the only one who didn't show up. i can't believe the others involved did. i guess there was some talk after the service, amongst our my co-workers who all decided on their own that i had cursed her to die.

strangely enough, this has happened before to people who have violated my personal well being or those or others - known or unknown. there is a strange place in my heart for people who are evil. Curses are ultimate prevention of bad doing, if you believe they exist.

(I'm still waiting for an old boyfriend to be eaten by sharks or die at sea - at least metaphorically....he inherited millions during our break up and left me for a life at sea with several women, one of whom he married a couple years later and last I heard, a few months ago from a mutual friend, she left him and took most of his money.)

i very much believe in curses. i know that this will offend many people and please use your energy to heal the world and me. it is a dark side of my moon-pluto.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by Kitchy

my curses on others usually involve skin rashes or stunted success for others. one time, in speaking of a former boss who embezzled all kinds of money and then got caught - put everyone around her through the ringer for being a 'knowing part of it' - which was total ******** - everyone knew she was doing something weird with the money, but she made it out on paper to look normal - which none of us could figure out. anyway, after all the employer's investigators showed up and asked folks what we knew - everyone was cleared and we were expected to sign a legal document saying we would never speak of this to anyone or we would be prosecuted! It was a federally funded non-profit that had city payroll and county employee contracts all over the county. they called it an 'intergovernmental agency' at the time. anyway - we all stayed on our jobs with a bitter heart and she was fired but not prosecuted. there were implications that she returned the money and i know right after that that she and her partner sold their million dollar home and disppeared to live in the oregon wilderness. i told my coworkers - don't worry, she'll get hers.

whether it was a curse? who can say - but she ended up 3 years later getting an inoperable brain tumor and died within a few months. her family sent memorial invitations to all of her former employees and i was the only one who didn't show up. i can't believe the others involved did. i guess there was some talk after the service, amongst our my co-workers who all decided on their own that i had cursed her to die.

strangely enough, this has happened before to people who have violated my personal well being or those or others - known or unknown. there is a strange place in my heart for people who are evil. Curses are ultimate prevention of bad doing, if you believe they exist.

(I'm still waiting for an old boyfriend to be eaten by sharks or die at sea - at least metaphorically....he inherited millions during our break up and left me for a life at sea with several women, one of whom he married a couple years later and last I heard, a few months ago from a mutual friend, she left him and took most of his money.)

i very much believe in curses. i know that this will offend many people and please use your energy to heal the world and me. it is a dark side of my moon-pluto.

Thanks for sharing that Kitchy, I'm certainly never offended when someone is being honest about who they are. Not everyone has enough self-awareness to be completely honest, so you don't need to rely on other people to heal yourself or the world...With your Pluto-moon energy, I bet there's examples where you have been there emotionally for people when they have been in need of support. Do you have Uranian energy in your chart as well? I agreed with the post about the magnetic energy too.

[Kitchy]

Bluebelle -

I believe when malicious intent of any human is actualized - there has to be a counter offering. There is a jewish curse - "may he get (name your percentage %) as much harm as he caused me" something like that.

The ultimate knowledge and use of curses is to know when there is malicious intent or "shite happens"....

Somewhere in the old Moon-Pluto annals is the term - "kill or be killed."

The Kennedy's killed a lot of people and people who knew the Kennedy's were killed. So curses seemed to come into play as more effective means of ending the evil, I think.

If you ever listen to a victim or parent of victims - they always say - "I want to stop this now before someone else gets hurt." It seems to me that there is a true way to do away with evil - not dependent on worldly terms.

[AppLeo]

There's no such thing as curses. If there was, I'd be cursed already, or I just don't know I'm cursed.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by Kitchy

Bluebelle -

I believe when malicious intent of any human is actualized - there has to be a counter offering. There is a jewish curse - "may he get (name your percentage %) as much harm as he caused me" something like that.

The ultimate knowledge and use of curses is to know when there is malicious intent or "shite happens"....

Somewhere in the old Moon-Pluto annals is the term - "kill or be killed."

The Kennedy's killed a lot of people and people who knew the Kennedy's were killed. So curses seemed to come into play as more effective means of ending the evil, I think.

If you ever listen to a victim or parent of victims - they always say - "I want to stop this now before someone else gets hurt." It seems to me that there is a true way to do away with evil - not dependent on worldly terms.

Yes I do believe what you put out comes back. If you are self-aware enough to put a curse on someone, or at least use your energy to wish bad thoughts on them, then the knowledge that you chose to do that will probably stay and fester in your mind. Like this poem
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/45952

At least for me, my own guilty conscience creates my own karma. But I think I also take on other peoples karma. That could be a Venus Pisces wanting to heal type thing, or a sun in 8th actually soaking it up. Maybe your perception of it is different to mine because of your Pluto influence.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

There's no such thing as curses. If there was, I'd be cursed already, or I just don't know I'm cursed.

Oh there are some wicked people in this world, maybe it's best to research up on curses incase you have to use it yourself, or be able to point if someone's energy indicates they may be trying to have a negative influence on you. Although you should hold onto the innocence of not believing in it as long as you can. That is the perfect protection for your average negative energy.

Also, in spiritual realms, you don't just get good spirits...I've been in the presence of spirits that laugh at you in a sinister, pesky kind of way, as if they are laughing at our ignorance. Of course, I would not communicate like this to the average person because most don't understand it, but there is a whole different world right infront of us.

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

Oh there are some wicked people in this world, maybe it's best to research up on curses incase you have to use it yourself, or be able to point if someone's energy indicates they may be trying to have a negative influence on you. Although you should hold onto the innocence of not believing in it as long as you can. That is the perfect protection for your average negative energy.

Also, in spiritual realms, you don't just get good spirits...I've been in the presence of spirits that laugh at you in a sinister, pesky kind of way, as if they are laughing at our ignorance. Of course, I would not communicate like this to the average person because most don't understand it, but there is a whole different world right infront of us.

Yeah you're probably right. Innocence I will remain.

[Bluebell87]

Originally Posted by AppLeo

Yeah you're probably right. Innocence I will remain.

Innocent but devastatingly intelligent - in my head you remind me of Zelda running around on Epona, killing and out-manoeuvring all enemies and opponents 😹

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

Innocent but devastatingly intelligent - in my head you remind me of Zelda running around on Epona, killing and out-manoeuvring all enemies and opponents 😹

LOL

I'm flattered.

[Bluebell87]

Well I think it was Kitchy that said yesterday, about you reminded her of her younger self. It's true what she said about if you are this good at astrology at 17

[AppLeo]

Originally Posted by Bluebell87

Well I think it was Kitchy that said yesterday, about you reminded her of her younger self. It's true what she said about if you are this good at astrology at 17

Thanks again :3

[waybread]

Kitchy, I cannot believe that you are cursing people like that. What does it say about you as a human being? You are not the arm of God. What you give out is what you get back: multiplied.

You have no way of demonstrating that you were the one who actually harmed these people.

One sometimes learns of Scorpios believing so strongly in justice that they harbor all kinds of resentments, believing it is only fair that they pay back the person who offended them. Whether the Scorpio might have misunderstood the situation or whether their retribution is commensurate with the alleged offence doesn't seem to be part of their calculus.

The fact that such people spend too much of their lives in resentment and revenge mode doesn't occur to them as being part of their own karmic pay-back.

[Bluebell87]

At least she was honest enough to express herself. I think we have all harboured resentment, plus I got more a feeling of guilt from her past experience, rather than outright vindictiveness. She was also shunned by the workers who went to the funeral, and they expressed they thought she had cursed the woman...sounds like guilt and shame to me.

[freekundli]

I don't believe in curses, nor I believe in having goo or bad luck. I do believe in blessings if you're living right or at least trying to.