david starling
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Do you believe in sidereal
Yes, I believe both sidereal and tropical are both valid, but on different wavelengths.
Do you believe in sidereal
Yes, I believe both sidereal and tropical are both valid, but on different wavelengths.
Opal, since you believe the Aquarian Age began quite some time ago, then you're setting the sidereal Signs in such a way that the sidereal Aquarian Age has not only already begun, but is the reason for the internet. So, anyone with a tropical Sun in Aquarius, is actually a sidereal Capricorn.
This would make sense ? No?......
Only if the warlike Roman Empire was a product of the sidereal Age of Pisces, instead of sidereal Aries. Also, the religious wars after the fall of the Roman Empire wouldn't make sense for an Age of Pisces.
If the sidereal Aquarian Age began 1900 A.D., for example, then the sidereal Age of Pisces began 2150 years earlier, in 250 B.C.E., during the formation of ancient Rome into an awesome military power. It looked to Mars, their god of war, for victory in battle.
Sounds like a sidereal Age of Aries, to me.
Ok, I get that. So you’re looking at historical events etc to match the ages. That’s actually a great way to research and prove what we are in right now as you would do this if for example you didn’t know your rising sign due to not knowing birth time. Makes sense to me.
I don’t know what to believe as I haven’t got my head round your thread yet. It’s a bit too advanced for me. I get what you have explained to me so just learning 😊
How so?........
Opal, since you believe the Aquarian Age began quite some time ago, then you're setting the sidereal Signs in such a way that the sidereal Aquarian Age has not only already begun, but is the reason for the internet. So, anyone with a tropical Sun in Aquarius, is actually a sidereal Capricorn.
I use tropical for reading natal.
I use sidereal for the ages.
I don’t mix them.
Like there are rules for mundane, or horary, I see them as separate, used for different applications.
For the ages, I am still on Burgoyne, and the age of Aquarius coming in with The Industrial Revolution and Nikola Tesla. Zap! ��
Opal, seems to me you are mixing them, because you need both to include the astrological Ages. Whereas, I'm using them separately, and can consider the sidereal Ages within the context of the sidereal Zodiac without even mentioning the tropical Zodiac, and vice versa.
In a sense, yes. The Zodiacal sign are depicted similarly in both Sidereal and Tropical. That is not something that I would want to change.
But, I don't yet totally understand the known Sidereal Ages. Trying to prove or disprove a date of start for the Sidereal Ages has not yet been satisfactorily done. Still looking for something, that totally convinces me, besides, my belief. Belief, is not proof.
What if you asked 20 different astrologers to tell you the degree and minute of your sidereal Sun-sign, or Moon-sign, or those of the planets, and you got 20 different answers, including 15 of them from tropical astrologers? Which one would you most likely believe was correct, and what would be the criteria for your decision?
Well, I would agree with me. I have tried to see myself in Sidereal charts. I have done the reading. It doesn't sound familiar, to me. If a siderealist could give me a reading, that sounded like me, I would be open to it. But, I haven't experienced that.
I have done my chart tropical, of course, and it sounds like me. I laugh at the truths that it shows me, of me.
Well, if you don't trust sidereal for Natal-chart readings, why trust it for the Ages?
Maybe (I said maybe, remember I said maybe) the sidereal Ages, so important to tropicalists, but which are basically ignored by actual siderealists, were just a fortunate coincidence in that they happen to point to an upcoming, sidereal Aquarian Age. And, that's what triggered the intuitive ability of tropicalists, who have an upcoming Aquarian Age of their own without realizing how to determine it. Which isn't surprising, given that tropicalists have almost completely ignored the Precession of the Perihelion, which is the reason for the tropical Ages in the first place.
And, the amazing amount of intuitively-based interest evidenced by tropicalists concerning an Age of Aquarius affecting the future, was unfortunately satisfied by the far more obvious rotation of the First Point of Tropical Aries through the Constellations.
Okay, okay, I will go read up on Capricorn some more and read and think.