QuaternityEagle
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Here I have the anonymized chart of a clinically diagnosed narcissist. I invite everyone to take a look and of course, this can lead to an open-ended discussion about what people think of the chart, and how it might be the chart of a Narcissist.
Please, though if you don't mind, read this disclaimer first on that matter, as there are a few concerns when it comes to reading charts and looking for any kind of particular characteristic related to anything (just as merely is the case for astrology, it does require an in-depth look), but especially the labels we use socially.
A brief background on the chart: a good buddy of mine is a practicing psychologist, and once he stops seeing a patient/client of his after five years, he sometimes gives me their anonymous birth information and diagnosis, allowing me a look at their charts. I don't assist in his practice in anyway, but he respects my interest in astrology and agrees with it philosophically. I don't do it with many, just particularly unique cases, like personality disorders. Moreover, since he is planning on publishing anonymous case studies, he is has sought to creatively unite some of the archetypes in astrology with his Jungian analysis, but not knowing astrology, I have been the one to assist him.
The birth time is derived, in most cases, from a physical description of the individual, but sometimes there is also discussions of birth times, since he is a practioner of psychotherapy, and it would seem then, not surprisingly, these things can come up.
Over the years, I have found it easier, and with a bit more grace and confidence, to identify personality disorders. It seems there is an excellent cross-over between the means of identifying personality disorders according to psychological criteria, and a well-honed look at someone's chart and the aspects it makes. I have never to this date found a tell-tale signature of any one personality disorder, I don't plan to.
I am sharing this chart though, because I thought it would be an interesting exercise. I have what I think are the "clues" or "factors present in the chart," which could very well be what born and bred the personality disorder. Of course, remember, this would then be a purely pathological reading of the chart, meaning we are looking at it from a highly specific perspective, one of illness. No longer would it be the 6th house, but rather the chart as a whole. To that end, please do not read this chart and draw any conclusions about mental illness and planetary placements.
This man is, as I said earlier, a Narcissist. Here is a definition of Narcissism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism It's wikipedia, so it may be accurate. For our purposes, I am sure its safe to use it as a general guide and understanding of what Narcissism is, for anyone who might not be aware of it, or needs a refresher. If anyone has any better sources, of course, please feel free to share.
Here is his chart, the time is not exact, but pretty close, as he did share an estimation of his birth time for whatever reasons it may have come up. I have included Equal and Placidus, attached in that order. I am willing to add asteroids, POF, and other things, if people would like.
I am excited to see what people have to say about the chart, since we know it is the chart of a Narcissist. What aspects or elements, planetary considerations, could be playing a role?
Please, though if you don't mind, read this disclaimer first on that matter, as there are a few concerns when it comes to reading charts and looking for any kind of particular characteristic related to anything (just as merely is the case for astrology, it does require an in-depth look), but especially the labels we use socially.
A brief background on the chart: a good buddy of mine is a practicing psychologist, and once he stops seeing a patient/client of his after five years, he sometimes gives me their anonymous birth information and diagnosis, allowing me a look at their charts. I don't assist in his practice in anyway, but he respects my interest in astrology and agrees with it philosophically. I don't do it with many, just particularly unique cases, like personality disorders. Moreover, since he is planning on publishing anonymous case studies, he is has sought to creatively unite some of the archetypes in astrology with his Jungian analysis, but not knowing astrology, I have been the one to assist him.
The birth time is derived, in most cases, from a physical description of the individual, but sometimes there is also discussions of birth times, since he is a practioner of psychotherapy, and it would seem then, not surprisingly, these things can come up.
Over the years, I have found it easier, and with a bit more grace and confidence, to identify personality disorders. It seems there is an excellent cross-over between the means of identifying personality disorders according to psychological criteria, and a well-honed look at someone's chart and the aspects it makes. I have never to this date found a tell-tale signature of any one personality disorder, I don't plan to.
I am sharing this chart though, because I thought it would be an interesting exercise. I have what I think are the "clues" or "factors present in the chart," which could very well be what born and bred the personality disorder. Of course, remember, this would then be a purely pathological reading of the chart, meaning we are looking at it from a highly specific perspective, one of illness. No longer would it be the 6th house, but rather the chart as a whole. To that end, please do not read this chart and draw any conclusions about mental illness and planetary placements.
This man is, as I said earlier, a Narcissist. Here is a definition of Narcissism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism It's wikipedia, so it may be accurate. For our purposes, I am sure its safe to use it as a general guide and understanding of what Narcissism is, for anyone who might not be aware of it, or needs a refresher. If anyone has any better sources, of course, please feel free to share.
Here is his chart, the time is not exact, but pretty close, as he did share an estimation of his birth time for whatever reasons it may have come up. I have included Equal and Placidus, attached in that order. I am willing to add asteroids, POF, and other things, if people would like.
I am excited to see what people have to say about the chart, since we know it is the chart of a Narcissist. What aspects or elements, planetary considerations, could be playing a role?