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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Explanation 4: Being Allowed or Caused to Die by Others[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Perhaps, instead, other people were involved. One possible explanation suggests that there could have been a silent conspiracy among physicians, family members, and other caregivers to help their patient “make it” to the 4th, an effort discontinued when that goal was reached. A more active account asks whether Adams’s and Jefferson’s respective physicians, Amos Holbrook and Robley Dunglison, could have played a role in their patients’ deaths, either inadvertently or deliberately—not out of malice, but perhaps seeking to relieve the sufferings of the dying, and choosing the historic anniversary as the appropriate occasion? Adams wrote to Benjamin Rush in 1810: “You Physicians are growing so familiar with Hemlock, and Arsenick, and Mercury Sublimate, and Laudanum, and Brandy and every Thing that used to frighten me, that I know not what you will do with us.”10 Could Adams and/or Jefferson have been administered substances—perhaps laudanum, an alcoholic tincture of opium—in an attempt to control pain, with an extra-heavy dose on that historic day? Adams’s granddaughter Susan Boylston Clark, who was living in the Adams household at the time, reported that the doctor gave her grandfather a “medicine” the day before he died, saying both that “I should not be surprised, if he did not live twenty-four hours” but also that “f the medicine which I shall give him operate favourably, he may live a week or two” [her italics].11 Dr. Holbrook told John Quincy that his father had “suffered much” the night before he died; this would make the administration of a heavy dose of opium even more plausible.12 “Double-effect” intervention by physicians resulting in death, though not intentionally, would be in keeping with contemporary attitudes about the permissibility of the overuse of morphine or other opioids for the control of pain “foreseeing though not intending” that they may cause death; direct intervention by physicians or others to bring an easier—or perhaps more symbolic—death might also be in keeping with some practices in contemporary medicine, either where euthanasia is underground or where it is legal. Could physicians or family members have done essentially the same thing? [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]In a letter to his friend Dr. Brockenborough, John Randolph of Roanoke, who had been on an ocean voyage and datelined the letter The Hague, Tuesday, August 8, 1826, wrote: “And so old Mr. Adams is dead; on the 4th of July, too, just half a century after our Declaration of Independence; and leaving his son on the throne. This is Euthenasia, indeed. They have killed Mr. Jefferson, too, on the same day, but I don’t believe it.”13[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]However, there is no direct evidence for either a “double-effect” or euthanasia. We do not know what drug Adams was given. Whether Jefferson was given any new medication before his death is not known; indeed, Jefferson is known to have refused the laudanum he had been taking the night before he died.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://www.bu.edu/historic/battin.htm[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/three-presidents-die-on-july-4th-just-a-coincidence[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The most infamous set of eerie parallels, however, can be drawn between the lives of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. They include the following:
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Booth#Robert_Lincoln_rescue
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Rosemary Kennedy: The Tragic Story of Why JFK's Sister Disappeared from Public View
You’d be hard pushed to find an American today who doesn’t know about the Kennedy curse, but few remember that Lincoln’s son Robert may also have battled some bad luck. After his father was killed, there was speculation that, had Robert attended the theater that night—as was originally intended—his seat might have blocked Booth’s shot and saved his father. For years, Robert was forced to wonder if he could have prevented the assassination. That was, until he was present for two others.
On July 2, 1881, Robert was in New Jersey traveling with President James Garfield—for whom he was acting Secretary of War—when Garfield was assassinated by Charles Guiteau. Twenty years later, Robert was also present at the shooting of President William McKinley, who was shot twice by Leon Czolgosz at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, New York. He later died of gangrene caused by the wounds.
Robert began to wonder if he was hexed. (It can’t have helped that all three of his brothers died before they reached adulthood.) After McKinley’s death, Robert refused to be present at any events a president might be attending. “No, I am not going,” he once said, “and they’d better not ask me because there is a certain fatality about presidential functions when I am present.” Robert had nothing to worry about. The only other president to ever again die by assassination was—checks notes—John F. Kennedy.
https://www.kqed.org/arts/13882779/...e-fourth-of-july-and-other-strange-fatalities
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Explanation 4: Being Allowed or Caused to Die by Others[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Perhaps, instead, other people were involved. One possible explanation suggests that there could have been a silent conspiracy among physicians, family members, and other caregivers to help their patient “make it” to the 4th, an effort discontinued when that goal was reached. A more active account asks whether Adams’s and Jefferson’s respective physicians, Amos Holbrook and Robley Dunglison, could have played a role in their patients’ deaths, either inadvertently or deliberately—not out of malice, but perhaps seeking to relieve the sufferings of the dying, and choosing the historic anniversary as the appropriate occasion? Adams wrote to Benjamin Rush in 1810: “You Physicians are growing so familiar with Hemlock, and Arsenick, and Mercury Sublimate, and Laudanum, and Brandy and every Thing that used to frighten me, that I know not what you will do with us.”10 Could Adams and/or Jefferson have been administered substances—perhaps laudanum, an alcoholic tincture of opium—in an attempt to control pain, with an extra-heavy dose on that historic day? Adams’s granddaughter Susan Boylston Clark, who was living in the Adams household at the time, reported that the doctor gave her grandfather a “medicine” the day before he died, saying both that “I should not be surprised, if he did not live twenty-four hours” but also that “f the medicine which I shall give him operate favourably, he may live a week or two” [her italics].11 Dr. Holbrook told John Quincy that his father had “suffered much” the night before he died; this would make the administration of a heavy dose of opium even more plausible.12 “Double-effect” intervention by physicians resulting in death, though not intentionally, would be in keeping with contemporary attitudes about the permissibility of the overuse of morphine or other opioids for the control of pain “foreseeing though not intending” that they may cause death; direct intervention by physicians or others to bring an easier—or perhaps more symbolic—death might also be in keeping with some practices in contemporary medicine, either where euthanasia is underground or where it is legal. Could physicians or family members have done essentially the same thing? [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]In a letter to his friend Dr. Brockenborough, John Randolph of Roanoke, who had been on an ocean voyage and datelined the letter The Hague, Tuesday, August 8, 1826, wrote: “And so old Mr. Adams is dead; on the 4th of July, too, just half a century after our Declaration of Independence; and leaving his son on the throne. This is Euthenasia, indeed. They have killed Mr. Jefferson, too, on the same day, but I don’t believe it.”13[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]However, there is no direct evidence for either a “double-effect” or euthanasia. We do not know what drug Adams was given. Whether Jefferson was given any new medication before his death is not known; indeed, Jefferson is known to have refused the laudanum he had been taking the night before he died.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://www.bu.edu/historic/battin.htm[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/three-presidents-die-on-july-4th-just-a-coincidence[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Other strange coincidences below:-[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The most infamous set of eerie parallels, however, can be drawn between the lives of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. They include the following:
- Both were elected to Congress in ’46 (granted, in different centuries).
- Both became President in ’60.
- Both lost sons while living in the White House. (Lincoln’s 11-year-old son William died of typhoid; Kennedy lost 2-day-old Patrick to infant respiratory distress syndrome.)
- Both are remembered primarily for their work to advance civil rights.
- Both were shot in the head on a Friday, while their wives were present.
- Both were succeeded by Presidents named Johnson (Andrew and Lyndon B. respectively) who were born in ’08.
- Both of their assassins were known by three names—John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald—comprised of 15 letters total.
- Both murders involved theaters. (Booth shot Lincoln at Ford’s Theatre, Washington, D.C.; Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested at the Texas Theatre in Dallas directly following Kennedy’s murder.)
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Booth#Robert_Lincoln_rescue
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Rosemary Kennedy: The Tragic Story of Why JFK's Sister Disappeared from Public View
You’d be hard pushed to find an American today who doesn’t know about the Kennedy curse, but few remember that Lincoln’s son Robert may also have battled some bad luck. After his father was killed, there was speculation that, had Robert attended the theater that night—as was originally intended—his seat might have blocked Booth’s shot and saved his father. For years, Robert was forced to wonder if he could have prevented the assassination. That was, until he was present for two others.
On July 2, 1881, Robert was in New Jersey traveling with President James Garfield—for whom he was acting Secretary of War—when Garfield was assassinated by Charles Guiteau. Twenty years later, Robert was also present at the shooting of President William McKinley, who was shot twice by Leon Czolgosz at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, New York. He later died of gangrene caused by the wounds.
Robert began to wonder if he was hexed. (It can’t have helped that all three of his brothers died before they reached adulthood.) After McKinley’s death, Robert refused to be present at any events a president might be attending. “No, I am not going,” he once said, “and they’d better not ask me because there is a certain fatality about presidential functions when I am present.” Robert had nothing to worry about. The only other president to ever again die by assassination was—checks notes—John F. Kennedy.
https://www.kqed.org/arts/13882779/...e-fourth-of-july-and-other-strange-fatalities
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