With his significator Saturn, in his turned 12th house, I don't think he's being honest with either you or his wife.
or himself.
With his significator Saturn, in his turned 12th house, I don't think he's being honest with either you or his wife.
How you come to Saturn/Jupiter trine? They approach a conjunction but Jupiter retrograde in conjunction with Pluto could indicate a crisis.Thank you kalinka for telling me about lot of hidden aspects of this chart. I did not know it's gonna be this awful. I feel sorry for both of them. I really was not looking to find about divorce at least. She posts lot of photos with him and they both look happy, I think it might be just for a show.
I did not see Venus and Saturn in any aspect though. You mentioned part of marriage is Pisces so represented by Jupiter, and Saturn will trine Jupiter. Oh because Jupiter will Rx, it won't trine with Saturn?
Please let me know what would Neptune represent here, deceit? He repeatedly mentions that he is very unlucky ... and I get angry that a person who is working his dream job , living a lavish lifestyle, has so many friends, family and married at his own will... still does not appreciate what he has. If I ask what it is, "you don't know as you are not at my position" I end this discussion, either tell me or let it be, don't be a victim of circumstances.
Pluto is Rx right now and Jupiter will Rx soon, does it mean anything? Looks like they are making a lot of good food during quarantine period and always show on instagram. He is showing off to people, they are doing good. I do not think he is honest with anyone.
I am sorry, I meant I do not see any aspect between Saturn and Venus as it was mentioned before.How you come to Saturn/Jupiter trine? They approach a conjunction but Jupiter retrograde in conjunction with Pluto could indicate a crisis.
Part of marriage in conjunction with Neptune looks like illusions and deception.
He still talks to me but never about his wife. I tried but he scoffed off. And he sometimes texts me about my photos with little too casual words.
he shows interest in me. He said he regrets what happened in the past. And said how wonderful I am as a person and anyone would be lucky to have me.
I just learned a new technique recently (I think from Tikana on another thread) that the 4th shows the outcome of something, with the radix 10th as the turned 4th from the 7th house.
Hi Amelia,
Thank you for seeing my chart. Actually I did not know how to read it hence I did that way. I had small discussion with established astrologers at this forum few weeks ago about 3rd party charts and I tried to apply the way I understood.
My only question was ... if he is happy in his marriage.
My intention behind asking this question was .... he shows interest in me. He said he regrets what happened in the past. And said how wonderful I am as a person and anyone would be lucky to have me. LOL, well I have been struggling to be in a relationship since more than a decade but jokes apart, his comments made me feel if he is happy with his wife or not.
Please do not include me in this question. Thank you!
What do you think will happen if Saturn and Jupiter conjunct?
about Venus and Saturn: they separated a trine.
Thank you waybread for writing to me. You are very well right. Lot of readings to read from. Some are taking Sun as wife or some are taking Sun as me. It does create confusion, it is a complicated question. Some said Mars represent divorce, but if I am Sun, that would mean him and I not in contact anymore? I am not rooting for them to be divorced. It's awful.He may well feel regret about his marriage, but more than that, as a married man he's speaking inappropriately to an ex-GF. Just imagine how his wife would feel if she knew this.
OK, possibly it's just some light-hearted flirting with nothing behind it, but why won't he talk about his wife when asked, then? The 5th house (of casual, insignificant flirting) is ruled by Jupiter. Jupiter is in its fall in his turned 12th house. So this doesn't read like harmless banter to me.
Saturn is domiciled in Aquarius as the traditional ruler. That's pretty strong. Then Saturn joys in the (turned) 12th house, because supposedly Saturn is the bad luck factor and he can do less harm in a house already known for misfortunes.
ScorpAsc5: lots of readings to choose from. We're using somewhat different methods.
It sounds like from your posts-- even if you're no longer interested in this man, that he is coming onto you.
I view you as the querent, symbolized by the sun. The sun's next aspect is a square to Mars, his co-significator. Meaning, regardless of the nature of your next contacts, I don't see anything good coming from them.
I just learned a new technique recently (I think from Tikana on another thread) that the 4th shows the outcome of something, with the radix 10th as the turned 4th from the 7th house.
That'a where the square fits in.
I honestly don't know where to classify his wife. But in the meantime, I think dropping contact with this man would be helpful to you and to her.
Amelia,Hi ScorpAsc5
Thank you for the feedback.
Do beware of Saturn going retrograde later. I didn't note that earlier. He will very likely try to get even closer to you (you're ex) during the ups and downs in his marriage. His getting away from an angular house is not a good sign. His regrets might intensify in the near future. It's up to you to decide what to do with that.
I understand the advice you've been given by the many kind & capable people here. Allow me to venture that, in my experience, a liar / bad person with evil intentions to harm is more often signified by a planet who has little to no essential dignity and sometimes in a bad house.
I recently dealt with a chart whose employer was signified by Jupiter in fall. He ended up lying to the querent about the renumeration package (not necessarily intentional, but in effect). The querent himself was in the 12th house.
Though this Saturn is about to lose much of his accidental dignity, he still has the most essential dignity there is. So, I'd hesitate to call him a liar.
He rules 6th yes, so he could be hiding something and having regrets. Still, simply not wanting to talk about his wife sounds quite different from lying outright to your face. Perhaps he just doesn't want to make things awkward because you're an ex whose heart he had broken when he left you for his wife. His feelings for you could be complicated by the guilt trip.
And like you said, he has regrets. That to me could be enough reason why he is in the 6th house.
If we consider him in the 7th house (for the moment anyway), as most traditional accounts would concur, we'd say his heart is literally at home. Also, he's more concerned about himself than you. I still believe that the Jupiter in his proximity and going into conjunction with him could signify his wife. After much back and forth, ups and downs, they will perfect the aspect in Aquarius. So no, no divorce at least for a while.
Good luck.
Amelia
Thank you waybread for writing to me. You are very well right. Lot of readings to read from. Some are taking Sun as wife or some are taking Sun as me. It does create confusion, it is a complicated question. Some said Mars represent divorce, but if I am Sun, that would mean him and I not in contact anymore? I am not rooting for them to be divorced. It's awful.
Well I am not a part of the question. I did not think about myself when I cast this chart.
Okay, I am trying to grasp your way of reading.Thanks for the feedback.
Even if the question is a "third party" question about other people, you really are the querent, hence represented by the first house, so far as I know. Neither this man or his wife are asking the question.
When it gets complicated, sometimes you can bring in other factors, like a planet that symbolizes the type of person or event asked about.
Both Jupiter and Saturn are going to turn retrograde. They don't catch up with one another in Capricorn till late December of this year. By then a number of planets will have changed signs.
I don't get Jupiter as signifying the wife or marriage, so maybe someone can explain it to me.
Okay, I am trying to grasp your way of reading.
So I be Sun and he is Saturn. I asked - is he happy in his marriage?
So the question has 'marriage' . A partnership so his 7th house . So 7th house from his turned chart is L1 so Sun? Does it superimpose who Sun represents?
What according to you could Jupiter signify? Does Moon also represent me?
Are you saying that according to your reading, the answer to my original question is yes or no?
Sun is going to conjunct Mercury in Taurus, my 10th or his 4th.
Sun is also going to square AC. What could these two show us?
Sorry to ask questions, I thought to ask as I got mixed readings on Who represent L1. Thank you! hope you are well.