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david starling

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I just read the last Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Capricorn happened during the time of the Protestant Reformation.
The 1947 conjunction occasioned the brutal Partition of India and Pakistan. Literally the partition line drawing was submitted the day of the conjunction.

None of this looks very good. In terms of mitigation, is there any mundane astrological magic besides election?

We don't have enough for informed prognostication regarding anything specific. Looks like it will be "hindsight is 20/20 vision".
 

david starling

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That was going to be my question originally actually - how long does it take for hindsight to sharpen to 20/20 where these large astrological events are concerned? Then discovered the freaky thing regarding partition, which took 5 days (!) to become reality after the papers were submitted.

Partition killed 1 million people and formed 2 nuclear powers. Not localized, if not visible.

The play on words is "Hindsight will be 2020 vision, after this next one".
The approach of the change in tropical Ages, :uranus: in Taurus, and Neptune in Pisces, are all unique this time around. I would be extremely surprised if the Saturn/Pluto conj is a non-event, but what it will result in seems unclear. So many things that could go wrong!
 

david starling

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Although I can't specify the event, or events, that will correlate to this portentous Conjunction, I have confidence that it will be another necessary step forward in the tropical Age change-over. Mercury will be a major player in the upcoming Conjunction, and is the Motivational-ruler for Aquarius. Pluto's ingress into Aquarius in 2023 will trigger another forward step. One step at a time.
 

david starling

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Mercury in Scorpio is Trine Neptune in Pisces: A realization that "Life is but a dream". When one is locked into a particular dream, it appears to be the only possible "reality".
 
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conspiracy theorist

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I remember an interesting theory posited by a poster many months ago about the ability to handle Pluto in the natal chart. His view was that people without the Scorpio sign strongly tenanted in the natal chart are likelier to mismanage the energy signature and fall into dysfunctional behaviours faster.

There is an urban legend of sorts surrounding the cinematic role of the Joker from the Batman series. Apparently for one to get into character for the role one needs to descend into places of deep psychological darkness in order to plum the depths and assume the skin of the legendary villain. There is a theory that this process was partly responsible for Heath Ledger's death - in any event the filming of The Dark Knight was grueling for him and he went into his next acting project still exhausted and a bit hung over from the last affair. Modernly Pluto is said to be the planet of death, destruction, the underworld/the underground, the mafia, psychology, and violent unstoppable change.

It's interesting to note that the 3 last actors who played as the Joker - Heath Ledger, Jared Leto and Joaquin Phoenix - were all "plutonic" according to the standards of modern astrology. Ledger had the Sun-Pluto opposition, Leto has a T-square of Pluto conj. ascendant opposition Mars on descendant with Sun in Capricorn at the apex, and Phoenix (fitting) has a hyper concentrated stellium between 28 Libra to 4 Scorpio. His Scorpio planets include the Sun, Mars and Venus. Also throughout the day the Aries Moon would be in opposition to a Libran Pluto. Of these plutonic actors, only Joaquin has planets in Scorpio.

The preparation that Ledger went through for the role is well-known, Leto was said to go full "method actor" and did such things as mail dead animals and condoms to his co-stars with one specific colleague carrying around mace in order to discourage Leto's antics. While it was said that Phoenix was very breezy and friendly during his time of filming the recent Joker movie, and in one interview even said that he "doesn't even know what people mean by method acting". Yet he was able to give a compelling performance that has many people raving, so much that they are calling it the best interpretation of Joker of all time.

The role took a toll on Ledger, Leto tried too hard and is regarded as the worst joker by the majority, and Phoenix gave a compelling performance without exhausting or damaging himself. In fact easily able to forget about the role and putting weight back on.

Is this an observation that gives credence to the Scorpio influenced naturally handling the plutonic energy signature well?

Also another interesting observation of the charts of the 3 is that Joaquin and Ledger have heavy water influence while Leto has none. The common reception is that everyone could see that Leto was acting while the former two disappeared into their roles.
 
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