Why not? No one here seems to want to talk about astrology. 12th house - holding on to perception that what is about to change through new beginnings isn't you - but out of some weird thought that you won't have to change if you stay hidden or out run change. With time, or with aging. Living in a place of emptiness and solitude that makes sense to you, in all its disgusting wallowing machinations - drugs, indulgence, fear, selflessness with comfortable accoutrements and the only payback is feeling the pain that makes you feel alive while willingly waiting for ethereal rebirth from some source other than yourself. What a drag, eh? That's karma. Karma is the antagonist of Mars and Saturn Pluto in astrological blabber. 12th house people were dead before they were born, in spiritual sense - laying at rest as they know it. 12th house is the house of Karma, right? A lot of MMA fighters with 12th house planets, true. Mars at bad position with them. Wanting to knock the sense into someone. Big winners lose everytime and big losers win everytime and well, what do you do when you're not winning or losing? Live in spite of it?