My dad is not my biological father

Adar

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This board is INTRODUCE YOURSELF board :smile:
".....Here you are welcome to tell us as much
or as little about yourself as you please
while also talking about your interest in astrology:
we would love to get to know you!

Please do not post requests for astrological chart readings
or astrological advertisements here....."

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So sorry I haven't paid attention to the rules, thank you for moving my thread, going thru an emotional time now. 🥰
 

aquarius7000

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The natal chart shows nothing unique about the situation.

You may want to ask a Horary Q with a clearly formulated Q, if you really want to persist on the topic.
 

Adar

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Aquarius7000, thank you, I guess I may want to do just that, as I do want to get to the bottom of it))). I am not sure how to formulate a clear question thou. My head is spinning now that I realise the DNA result can arrive any day now.
 

aquarius7000

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Best would be to simply wait for the DNA results and try to keep your mind involved in other things.
A clear Horary Q is: Is my current dad my biological dad? For the chart, use the date, time and place of reading this question here in my post if you are going to use the same question.
The 4th house of the chart should reveal the answer
Aquarius7000, thank you, I guess I may want to do just that, as I do want to get to the bottom of it))). I am not sure how to formulate a clear question thou. My head is spinning now that I realise the DNA result can arrive any day now.
 

Adar

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Best would be to simply wait for the DNA results and try to keep your mind involved in other things.
A clear Horary Q is: Is my current dad my biological dad? For the chart, use the date, time and place of reading this question here in my post if you are going to use the same question.
The 4th house of the chart should reveal the answer

Thanks again, will follow your advise. I read your reply at 18 15 Moscow time, in Russia, what time do you think I should quote in horary section?
 

JUPITERASC

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Thanks again, will follow your advise.

I read your reply at 18 15 Moscow time, in Russia,


what time do you think I should quote in horary section?
horary is for YOU to ask the question
and since this thread was not an horary thread to begin with
you are entitled to create your own horary question now
for example

"...is the man I am used to calling "Dad" my real Dad or not?"
"current Dad..." could mean he is one of a series of "Dads" :smile:
 

Adar

Well-known member
horary is for YOU to ask the question
and since this thread was not an horary thread to begin with
you are entitled to create your own horary question now
for example

"...is the man I am used to calling "Dad" my real Dad or not?"
"current Dad..." could mean he is one of a series of "Dads" :smile:
Oh, ok many thanks! 🌹
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Oh, ok many thanks!

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you are clearly unfamiliar with the principles of Horary :smile:
the following are basic guidelines



The theory behind Horary is very simple:

1) there is a Question that weighs very heavily on your mind.

2) when you have a clear understanding of what it is that you really want to know, you cast a chart or an astrologer casts one for you


3) That freezes the Planets as they transit the heavens at that moment (hence: Horary)

4) the Rising Sign and Planet that rules the Rising Sign represents you

5) the House, or often more correctly, the Sign that represents the Matter you're asking about and the Planet that rules that Sign represents the Matter. The Matter can be a person or a thing or an idea (like a rumor or a dream).

6) the relationship between those two rulers tells you what has happened, and what is yet to come. That relationship is in the form of aspects. If there are no aspects, then there is nothing to come.

7) the Moon plays a special dual-role signifying the State of Mind of the Querent and also how things play out, how they happen, and when they happen. When there are no aspects formed by the Moon (ie it is Void of Course) then nothing will happen. Note that there are a handful of certain special select Horary Questions where a Void of Course Moon is not relevant. Those are often war, conflict or legal questions, or Questions related to Career.

8) in addition to forming aspects, those Planets must also have Perfect Reception, as opposed to simple Reception. Reception is about "allowing." For example if Mars is applying in aspect to Jupiter, and Jupiter receives Mars then Jupiter is allowing Mars to act. Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go ahead and do that thing that you do." If Jupiter does not receive Mars, then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Go away and leave me alone. Go. Get out of here." If it is a Sign of Enmity, like Mars in Capricorn (the Fall of Jupiter) then Jupiter is effectively saying, "Cease and Desist. I will stop you from doing anything. If necessary, I may even get violent to stop you." And that just might be the case if Jupiter were also in a Violent Sign, otherwise Jupiter would just keep slamming doors in your face.

9) How things actually play out depends a lot on the "strength" of the Planets involved. The strength of the Planets indicates their ability to do act and do things and carry out plans and make things happen. A Planet that is not just in its own Sign, but also in its Triplicity or Term, and is Direct in Motion, Fast in Speed, Angular or Succedent, in Hayz, in a trine aspect with Venus/Jupiter/Sun is very powerful. That's a person with a purpose in life who has both the will and ability to act and make things happen.

A Planet that is Slow in Speed, Retrograde, in Fall/Detriment, Cadent, and not in Sect or worse is Out-of Sect isn't going to be able to do anything, even when there is Perfect Reception in the chart, this person is going to botch every thing up and turn a dream about ponies and gum-drops into a nightmare, because they don't have the strength or will to make things happen.

10) when charts have early/late Ascendants, Void of Course Moons, Moon via Combusta, Saturn in the 1st or 7th House (when not a significator) you can look at the chart for reasons why you are getting those warnings.

Often a non-significator Planet is making an aspect to one of the primary significators. Sextiles and trines usually indicate on-going events which first must be completed before anything can happen. Conjunctions, squares and opposition usually indicate obstacles that are preventing things from happening, and with the "hard" aspects sometimes things can still happen if those obstacles can be overcome.

The condition and placement of the Moon/Ascendant Ruler will tell you the State of Mind and what kind of person the Querent is; good-hearted, or ambivalent, or in sheer terror, in a total panic, has the "stink of desperation" or is immature and selfish, looking do to harm, or is someone you wouldn't let your dog go near. The Planet that is the Quesited/Matter will tell you about them, but not with the same clarity as the Querent. A poorly placed 10th House Ruler might be a job you really don't want, because it ain't all that or isn't what you think it is. A poorly placed 7th House Ruler is someone you might not really want to be with, or something you don't really want to buy and so on.

For a Planet (like the Ascendant Ruler) in Detriment, it is important that it make an aspect to the 1st House (ie it is not inconjunct in the 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th Houses), and for other significators that it aspect the House it rules. A Planet that is inconjunct to the House it rules can't witness or give testimony to the affairs of that House. That means it cannot control those events, and being weak in Detriment has even less control and less ability to effect outcomes.
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
The theory behind Horary is very simple:

1) there is a Question that weighs very heavily on your mind.

2) when you have a clear understanding
of what it is that you really want to know
you cast a chart

or

an astrologer casts one for you
you need to formulate your question clearly
as soon as you have decided on the precise question
then and only then
create a "natal chart of that moment"

aka horary chart of the moment question is understood :smile:
and there is no guarantee that horary can answer
it is dependent on the skill of the horarist
also

keep in mind

ours is an astrological learning forum
and
although members responding MAY have decades of experience
many are also beginners

.
 

aquarius7000

Well-known member
As said, you can safely use the time your read my post on Horary- with the question formulated clearly for you. The time and date can be seen above my post.
Your intent is your own, all I helped with is formulating the question, so feel free to start a Horary thread.

Thanks again, will follow your advise. I read your reply at 18 15 Moscow time, in Russia, what time do you think I should quote in horary section?
 

Adar

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As said, you can safely use the time your read my post on Horary- with the question formulated clearly for you. The time and date can be seen above my post.
Your intent is your own, all I helped with is formulating the question, so feel free to start a Horary thread.

Aquarius7000, your help is immense, I sooo appreciate it! Is Aqua your sun sign? 🤗
 

Adar

Well-known member
you need to formulate your question clearly
as soon as you have decided on the precise question
then and only then
create a "natal chart of that moment"

aka horary chart of the moment question is understood :smile:
and there is no guarantee that horary can answer
it is dependent on the skill of the horarist
also

keep in mind

ours is an astrological learning forum
and
although members responding MAY have decades of experience
many are also beginners

.

Of course and thank you again 😊
 

neptunian

Well-known member
Adoption ruled by 11th house. uranus can point to a adoptive or step parent when it is in fourth. Uranus conjunct your sun in the fourth. sun also opposed by saturn. Saturn is your eighth house ruler, and opposing your sun. :unsure:
Saturn to sun harsh aspect can show seperation from birth father sometimes, absence of father in some way.

Or a difficult relationship with the father, you may feel restricted; father can be strict, authoritative.

or father is having difficulties, either coming from a hard or a very disciplined background.

you can look at your father's fifth house represents his children and eleventh house.

Of course we can't arrive at a conclusion just looking at the natal chart. A horary can be better for such a question.
 

Adar

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Adoption ruled by 11th house. uranus can point to a adoptive or step parent when it is in fourth. Uranus conjunct your sun in the fourth. sun also opposed by saturn. Saturn is your eighth house ruler, and opposing your sun. :unsure:
Saturn to sun harsh aspect can show seperation from birth father sometimes, absence of father in some way.

Or a difficult relationship with the father, you may feel restricted; father can be strict, authoritative.

or father is having difficulties, either coming from a hard or a very disciplined background.

you can look at your father's fifth house represents his children and eleventh house.

Of course we can't arrive at a conclusion just looking at the natal chart. A horary can be better for such a question.

Thank you, dear Neptunian, my Saturn is also retro, which as I read may be another indication of adoptive father. I did put up a thread in horary section, but had no replies yet 😭
 

neptunian

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Thank you, dear Neptunian, my Saturn is also retro, which as I read may be another indication of adoptive father. I did put up a thread in horary section, but had no replies yet 😭

Hi, Adar

Many people have saturn retrograde; so it doesn't have a relation. Here sun saturn opposition got my attention because i saw this aspect in the charts of adopted people. but i also saw sun saturn in the charts of people who have a cold distant relationship with father. One example; my cousin has sun saturn square, her parents divorced when she was little, and she grew up away from her father. grew up with a step father.

Don't you have any physical resemblance with your father or father's family. Hopefully, you'll get clarity in a short time. This full moon we are having is over your sun saturn opposition and it will bring clarity to you.
 

Adar

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Hi,

Don't you have any physical resemblance with your father or father's family. Hopefully, you'll get clarity in a short time. This full moon we are having is over your sun saturn opposition and it will bring clarity to you.

Neptunian, no physical resemblance whatsoever. Totally different looks.
 

katydid

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Adar, while you are awaiting the results, maybe you could write down for yourself, what it means, when the results arrive.

If he is not your birth father, what will that mean ?

Will you still want him to be your father and be in your life?


Are you just looking for more information, but you still want your 'family' that raised you to remain as family?

Do you have siblings?

And what if he is your bio father?

I would try to work out some of these possibilities now, before the test comes back.
 

Adar

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Adar, while you are awaiting the results, maybe you could write down for yourself, what it means, when the results arrive.

If he is not your birth father, what will that mean ?

Will you still want him to be your father and be in your life?


Are you just looking for more information, but you still want your 'family' that raised you to remain as family?

Do you have siblings?

And what if he is your bio father?

I would try to work out some of these possibilities now, before the test comes back.

Katydid, hi and thank you! My answers are:
I still love my dad very much and want him in my life cos I am the only person who looks after him, feeds him, cleans after him and gives him his meds as he is old. So yes. If anything, I will respect him much more, knowing he raised me as his only child.
My family knows nothing about the DNA test and will always be just that - my family.

I have no siblings, just cousins.

If he is my bio dad, I d be ecstatic.😄

Oh, and if he is not my bio dad I will just have a confirmation that my mom did a dirty on him and my family was right all along, saying I am not his child. 😄
 
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Adar

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Thank you everybody for your help. Got the results. It's 0%. Life goes on. Dad will never know about the test. ❤️
 
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