love-thinking
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You're not entirely wrong. I agree aspects are way more important like look up the mars effect. However, there is an explanation why it is more important and why many people's sun or moon signs just don't fit them.
When looking at a birth chart, you're looking at five things: signs, houses, aspects, lunar mansions/nakshatras(further division of zodiac signs into smaller constellations) and house lord dynamics.
When assessing a chart there's two things astrologers assess: personality, and prediction.
When assessing personality: Two things more important than the signs are the lunar mansions and aspects. I don't want to make this post long so I don't want to explain lunar mansions in full detail but to give you an idea, a lunar mansion can have contradictory or very different qualities than that of a zodiac sign. Lunar mansion and zodiac wheels are different. One is constellation and the other is based on solstices and equinoxes(seasonal). I have seen lunar mansions be an amazing descriptor of personality (sun, moon asc). And to find out more about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK8vzc4EjYI&t=2s
This is an example of her video exploration of the nakshatra/lunar mansion of hasta. She does a lot of research.
With that being said then you have aspects and this is what I would like to call a nurture reacting or reinforcing with nature. Which means, you'll be born with these traits but you will also be required/reinforced or put in circumstances to develop these traits which in some cases fully mitigates the zodiac sign.
Then you have houses. This is the nurturing aspects. This is where you will be in life. It will in some way or the other be physically manifest as opposed to zodiac signs which will be overpowered a lot of the time by lunar mansion and aspects.
But many say that if the sign isn't present in personality itself, it still shows up as how you use the planet in the house. For example, I have moon which is my 10th house ruler in 8th house in the sign of taurus where moon is exalted. I am studying psychology in one of the best schools in the country.
So in conclusion, zodiac sign is just the dignity/resources for the purpose of the house.
Think of it this way, let's say someone goes to the school MIT. which is the zodiac sign. In this case the house would be what the person studies. The planet would be the person itself. And the aspects to other planets would be the friends she/he makes that influence his/her personality.
So in this regard, let's say hypothetically MIT has the best psychology program, the person in venus would be happy in the 8th house if it is exalted in pisces because the school provides her/him with all they need to be successful. Now let's say Venus is then conjunct neptune(the artsy crew for example), she would identify with the neptunian crowd because that's the crowd she belongs to and will influence her very much throughout her time in university and their beliefs will rub off on her but she wouldn't be hanging out with them if she didn't identify with them in the first place.
I hope that makes sense and wasn't too complicated to understand. As for the lady gaga example, they say a benefic in his/her own sign can elevate a debilitated planet.
When looking at a birth chart, you're looking at five things: signs, houses, aspects, lunar mansions/nakshatras(further division of zodiac signs into smaller constellations) and house lord dynamics.
When assessing a chart there's two things astrologers assess: personality, and prediction.
When assessing personality: Two things more important than the signs are the lunar mansions and aspects. I don't want to make this post long so I don't want to explain lunar mansions in full detail but to give you an idea, a lunar mansion can have contradictory or very different qualities than that of a zodiac sign. Lunar mansion and zodiac wheels are different. One is constellation and the other is based on solstices and equinoxes(seasonal). I have seen lunar mansions be an amazing descriptor of personality (sun, moon asc). And to find out more about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK8vzc4EjYI&t=2s
This is an example of her video exploration of the nakshatra/lunar mansion of hasta. She does a lot of research.
With that being said then you have aspects and this is what I would like to call a nurture reacting or reinforcing with nature. Which means, you'll be born with these traits but you will also be required/reinforced or put in circumstances to develop these traits which in some cases fully mitigates the zodiac sign.
Then you have houses. This is the nurturing aspects. This is where you will be in life. It will in some way or the other be physically manifest as opposed to zodiac signs which will be overpowered a lot of the time by lunar mansion and aspects.
But many say that if the sign isn't present in personality itself, it still shows up as how you use the planet in the house. For example, I have moon which is my 10th house ruler in 8th house in the sign of taurus where moon is exalted. I am studying psychology in one of the best schools in the country.
So in conclusion, zodiac sign is just the dignity/resources for the purpose of the house.
Think of it this way, let's say someone goes to the school MIT. which is the zodiac sign. In this case the house would be what the person studies. The planet would be the person itself. And the aspects to other planets would be the friends she/he makes that influence his/her personality.
So in this regard, let's say hypothetically MIT has the best psychology program, the person in venus would be happy in the 8th house if it is exalted in pisces because the school provides her/him with all they need to be successful. Now let's say Venus is then conjunct neptune(the artsy crew for example), she would identify with the neptunian crowd because that's the crowd she belongs to and will influence her very much throughout her time in university and their beliefs will rub off on her but she wouldn't be hanging out with them if she didn't identify with them in the first place.
I hope that makes sense and wasn't too complicated to understand. As for the lady gaga example, they say a benefic in his/her own sign can elevate a debilitated planet.