I remember reading this, but I also read that the Ascendant's ruler isn't always the strongest planet, and that if another planet has greater dignity or strength or is more prominently placed in the chart, that it can surpass the Ascendant's ruler as the Chart Ruler.The term "chart ruler" refers to the ruler of the Ascendant.. in your case Jupiter would be the Chart Ruler.
The totality of planets method (no one uses it but me-its my "invention") is what I use to determine the "t-o-p" planet ("chart ruler"), but if I can find an "ultimate dispositor" (which is not in a pitted degree) then that is the planet I will often consider to be the "ruler of the nativity". In the posted chart, Venus is the grand dispositor, ie, the sign ruler of the position of every chart element is ultimately disposited by Venus, which is its essential dignity in its domicile of Libra.
So, I would say that the "chart ruler" here is Venus.
Jupiter is indeed chart ruler, but things that caneasily override this is a stellium of planets ie: concentration of planets in a house, like 4planets in 11th house in your case, shows 'where you function' ie; house of friendships, groups, large organisations, hopes and wishes...I remember reading this, but I also read that the Ascendant's ruler isn't always the strongest planet, and that if another planet has greater dignity or strength or is more prominently placed in the chart, that it can surpass the Ascendant's ruler as the Chart Ruler.
Yeah, but I guess there's still that nagging question inside me because looking at my chart, Jupiter doesn't seem all that prominent, aside from being the Ascendant's ruler.[what makes you think chart ruler HAS to be prominent??] That's why Uranus aspecting both the Sun and the Ascendant made me wonder. Also, I've done various calculations of element and quality balance, and it's come back with both Fixed Air (Aquarius) and Cardinal Air (Libra) being dominant, so that also made me question it, though those are different from planets, of course. It's just balancing it all out that confuses me and where I get tripped up.
[sun is within 5' orb of asc and is considered more effective in next house along ie: 1st going anti clockwise, but not uranus]
I appreciate both of you replying.
EDIT: I just saw dr. farr's post - Totality of the planets is something I've also considered just based on different articles I've been able to get my hands on. So, I guess it seems to come down to which method I prefer.... I wonder...do you take into account a method for calculating a prominent sign?[this is more a Traditional astrologers technique rather than moderns, and of course the whole rulerships change] For example, if my chart is ruled by Fixed Air (Aquarius), [but IT'S NOT]would it be instructive to look at Venus in Aquarius in terms of the totality of the chart? Or, just taking the Ascendant's ruler, Jupiter in Aquarius?
Ruler of the Tenth House in the Twelfth House
Your main career may have an element of working behind-the- scenes or could have some other kind of hidden quality to it.
Your career may involve working in large public institutions or helping other people altruistically. It might even be connected to the psychological fields. Some of your personal power is not readily perceived by other people, or you may just prefer to keep it to yourself
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr10
Neptune in Square to Midheaven
Without a firm sense of who you are and where you're headed, you may be subject to more than your share of downtime career-wise. You may find yourself a target for deceptive career schemes and false promises. Some of this can be avoided by getting into some serious career counseling and making whatever effort necessary to become knowledgeable in your chosen field. Your biggest challenge may be to avoid getting sidetracked by doubts about your choices. You don't have to compromise your search
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsneptune.htm
If not, what is it? I haven't been able to figure this out and it's driving me nuts, lol. I do know that Venus is my chart's Final Dispositor (Mars for the Houses), but I don't know if that means it's the Chart Ruler, or if something else is.
Thank you!
How is your 11th house situated? It's a very planet-heavy section of my chart, though entirely in Libra (though it does end in Scorpio).
Yep, I'm asking you. I was asking because Uranus is the 11th House Ruler, generally, so perhaps a strong 11th House showing adds to the Uranian flavor of a chart.Are you asking me? My 11th house is Taurus house cusp. Retro Mars and Apex of a Yod could be in there depending on house type (it's in placidus, out equal).
My Sun/Uranus conjunction is in the 4th house Libra near the nadir.
Yep, I'm asking you. I was asking because Uranus is the 11th House Ruler, generally, so perhaps a strong 11th House showing adds to the Uranian flavor of a chart.
By "talent triangle," do you mean a grand trine? If not, what is it? I've never heard the phrase before.I'm not sure what to make of my 11th house. I'm still so new at this. I don't know ****... I guess my 11th house ruler is in my 5th house conjunct Neptune and yet another apex of a Yod. That area is also an apex of a talent triangle. It's an intense position...