The Alamo - Chart

Yeah ..I have a little obsession, or passion, of mine ..it's about the history of the Alamo, and the siege, etc. I found a chart with both events of the siege and the battle of San Jacinto. I'm not very good at reading charts -- yet. ...but ...what can you tell me?



The person who so kindly showed me this chart noticed that Uranus ingressed into Pisces during the Siege of the Alamo, which supposedly happened with another siege in history... can't say what, but I'm trying to think o_o

Hi Calico,

This took my interest, but I am not American, so I am unaware of this aspect of American history. I needed to do a bit of research to understand what this was all about.

Therefore I provide some links for others who may also be clueless as to what these charts represent:

Alamo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Alamo

http://www.lone-star.net/mall/texasinfo/alamo-battle.htm

San Jacinto:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_San_Jacinto

http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batsanjacinto.htm

First I have some questions. Why have you set the chart for the ending of the battle of Alamo and the defeat of the Texan troops for 5.AM? Is this the official time that the battle ended? As far as I have found, the battle is just described as having ended by morning, but if no time is specified I would opt for a sunrise chart.

Also, why are you comparing these two particular battles in a synastry? Was there not a battle after Alamo, in which the Texans were also defeated? Was this not at Goliad? I am just asking this because if this is so then why not compare Goliad and San Jacinto by synastry? However, I understand that the battle of the Alamo is the most significant event, which is why you are focusing upon this incident.

Apparently the Jacinto battle only lasted twenty minutes. Wow! It would be interesting to track this event astrologically, and see what the angles were up to during this time frame.

Another interesting synastry might be between the start of Alamo on the 23 Feb, to it's end on the 6th March.

One thing that does stand out to me in the chart you provide is the conjunction between the Jupiter of the Alamo chart and the Moon of the Jacinto chart, in the sign of Cancer. This is very powerful, as Jupiter is exalted in Cancer, and the Moon within it's domicile.

I just feel I need to know exactly what it is that you want to know from these charts.

Draco

Draco said:

First I have some questions. Why have you set the chart for the ending of the battle of Alamo and the defeat of the Texan troops for 5.AM? Is this the official time that the battle ended? As far as I have found, the battle is just described as having ended by morning, but if no time is specified I would opt for a sunrise chart.

Also, why are you comparing these two particular battles in a synastry? Was there not a battle after Alamo, in which the Texans were also defeated? Was this not at Goliad? I am just asking this because if this is so then why not compare Goliad and San Jacinto by synastry? However, I understand that the battle of the Alamo is the most significant event, which is why you are focusing upon this incident.

Apparently the Jacinto battle only lasted twenty minutes. Wow! It would be interesting to track this event astrologically, and see what the angles were up to during this time frame.

Another interesting synastry might be between the start of Alamo on the 23 Feb, to it's end on the 6th March.

One thing that does stand out to me in the chart you provide is the conjunction between the Jupiter of the Alamo chart and the Moon of the Jacinto chart, in the sign of Cancer. This is very powerful, as Jupiter is exalted in Cancer, and the Moon within it's domicile.

I just feel I need to know exactly what it is that you want to know from these charts.

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Kay ^^

Well... first off, I got the chart after bringing up the subject in a Myspace Astrology forum. Also, I must warn you... I'm a beginner with Astrology, but I'll try my best

The Texans who were defending the Alamo had been bombarded nightly by the Mexicans for thirteen days, and on the thirteenth day before dawn (so 5 AM or so) they were attacked (after being deprived of sleep for so long.) This is hard to do, because of the fact that there not a lot of survivors, and a lot of the survivor's stories changed over the years, a lot of the times and such have not been documented.

I don't know why they were compared in Synystry, perhaps I should make a new one where it's just the Alamo? the Battle of San Jacinto was fought in April and actually did not last only 20 minutes, but 18 minutes. General Sam Houston kept pulling back, until finally he waited for Santa Anna to make a mistake. Finally he found an open field in which to fight on ..and across from that field was Santa Anna's troops resting... they waited until very early in the morning (just like they had done at the Alamo. I'm not sure which time..) and attacked while some soldiers were still in their pajamas. This was payback for the massacre at the Alamo, and also a way to get Texan independance from Mexico. Sam knew what he was doing.

I'm not sure what you mean about Goliad ...though it could be my memory. I do know that Col. Fannin and his men were coming to aid the Alamo, for they didn't have many men. They were ambushed at Goliad and all killed. This was called the Goliad Massacre. It's one of the reasons why the Alamo fell.

My mind kind of wanders ...so if you still have questions, feel free to ask =)

Also, here's a pretty good little source on the Battle of the Alamo: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/AA/qea2.html

and the Battle of San Jacinto http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/SS/qes4.html