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Jobless in America - Tent Cities

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March 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcHEJ...feature=relmfu

May 6 2011 Homeless Middleclass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9-K...feature=relmfu

June 18 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqmWc...feature=relmfu

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Re: Jobless in America - Tent Cities

Scary stuff. It's weird seeing so many homeless people in such rich parts.

I still think Europe is in a worse situation though. America hit 9% unemployment and that gets attention. Spain has 21% (double, DOUBLE) and a variety of European countries have 14% or more. For that I'd like to see governments fall. Those banks do NOT deserve our cash.
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Scary stuff. It's weird seeing so many homeless people in such rich parts.

I still think Europe is in a worse situation though. America hit 9% unemployment and that gets attention. Spain has 21% (double, DOUBLE) and a variety of European countries have 14% or more. For that I'd like to see governments fall. Those banks do NOT deserve our cash.
It's all E=mcsquared or "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." - Albert Einstein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC7Sg41Bp-U (link works if copied and pasted)

One fifth (that is 20%) of the population of Spain = 9,000,000

One tenth (that is 10%) of the population of USA = 31,180,000

It's all relative byjove
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Re: Jobless in America - Tent Cities

I'll add that unemployed Americans don't usually get anywhere near the amount of benefits that their European counterparts do. An unemployed American has a very immenent danger of homelessness, even families with young children. It's outrageous.
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Lisa Ling investigated tent cities for an Oprah show in 2009. Here she interviews those living in these very conditions:

http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Lisa-...de-a-Tent-City
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Re: Jobless in America - Tent Cities

not much better here in UK either. We have a benefit system, but it's poverty living. You fair better if you have kids as the local Govern have a duty of care....

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Re: Jobless in America - Tent Cities

It comes down to the best interests of the average American being held hostage to the political atmosphere in this country that seems to reward those elected to help restructure the system for doing absolutely nothing of any benefit. When the fringe elements of either party begin to set party platforms and shape (or block) legislation, the majority of us in the middle go unheard/unhelped. When a minority party (tea, anyone?) has the ability to prevent forward motion by refusing to compromise, we no longer have a democracy.
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It's all E=mcsquared or "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." - Albert Einstein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC7Sg41Bp-U (link works if copied and pasted)

One fifth (that is 20%) of the population of Spain = 9,000,000

One tenth (that is 10%) of the population of USA = 31,180,000

It's all relative byjove
But Obama chose to spend the country's way out of recession, in most European countries the govts. chose the opposite. The OECD said my country had the worst impact of the recession of any country in the world. That's still a nasty shock even if it's not 30 million. And I really don't think it's a numbers game. The French are about to be downgraded, and the Germans are 'bailing out' the European countries with huge bank dependencies with their banks - they're saving their own behind. And it won't work.
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not much better here in UK either. We have a benefit system, but it's poverty living. You fair better if you have kids as the local Govern have a duty of care....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS2U4BX489I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lgu2Iohf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6-0s...eature=related

Homeless Boy Steals The Talent Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ46O...eature=related
you MUST listen to this boy sing OMG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgH4zV2UQeE
True, w/o kids benefits in the UK are meager. I always felt so bad for the pensioners who would go w/o heat through the winter and live on tea and beans, with no one to check in on them. I always thought WW2 propaganda in UK had something to do with that "stiff upper lip" attitude a lot of that generation seem to have. But a lot of them need help, and won't say it.
BUT, if you do have kids, you will be okay. I lived in the UK for 7 years, last 2 of them as a single mom...i was starting my business, so income was non-existant...i had a central house in a nice neighborhood rent totally paid for, all bills paid for, and 700 pounds a month for food/clothes/etc. Absolutely enough. More than enough, if the gov't is footing the bill. Children are very well protected in the UK, excellent system for families as far as I'm aware.

Plus, you can have savings up to like 20,000 pounds or more with children in the uk w/o loosing benefits in the UK (at least with children)!! It's crazy compared to the US. When my business started to make money, I got MORE benefits, not less through working tax credits and back to work credits. Unbelievable!

I may have been somewhat unique in that I was persuing a business that took off, and I had the money from my divorce to make that happen, but I know that had I been living in the US, that money would have HAD to go towards expenses, and no way would I be able to support my children and start a business. Impossible in the US, just impossible.

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But Obama chose to spend the country's way out of recession, in most European countries the govts. chose the opposite. The OECD said my country had the worst impact of the recession of any country in the world. That's still a nasty shock even if it's not 30 million. And I really don't think it's a numbers game. The French are about to be downgraded, and the Germans are 'bailing out' the European countries with huge bank dependencies with their banks - they're saving their own behind. And it won't work.
The initial decision to "spend" actually came before Obama was elected. Problem was the spending didn't go far enough, and then those that supported it when it was the idea of the other party suddenly reversed their support when they were no loger in power, and then effectively began blocking any further efforts to help. We have here a struggle for power that is only interested in being in control, and not in actually accomplishing anything.
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Yes I remember I read that that would happen when the Republicans gained ground half-way. A tug of war.
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Anyone remember a place called Iceland?

Why Iceland is not in the news anymore....

An Italian radio program’s story about Iceland’s on-going revolution is a stunning example of how little our media tells us about the rest of the world. Americans may remember that at the start of the 2008 financial crisis, Iceland literally went bankrupt. The reasons were mentioned only in passing, and since then, this little-known member of the European Union fell back into oblivion. Contrary to what could be expected, the crisis resulted in Icelanders recovering their sovereign rights, through a process of direct participatory democracy that eventually led to a new Constitution.

The belief that citizens had to pay for the mistakes of a financial monopoly, that an entire nation must be taxed to pay off private debts was shattered, transforming the relationship between citizens and their political institutions and eventually driving Iceland’s leaders to the side of their constituents. The Head of State, Olafur Ragnar Grimsson, refused to ratify the law that would have made Iceland’s citizens responsible for its bankers’ debts, and accepted calls for a referendum. In the March 2010 referendum, 93% voted against repayment of the debt. The IMF immediately froze its loan. But the revolution (though not televised in the United States), would not be intimidated. With the support of a furious citizenry, the government launched civil and penal investigations into those responsible for the financial crisis. Interpol put out an international arrest warrant for the ex-president of Kaupthing, Sigurdur Einarsson, as the other bankers implicated in the crash fled the country.

But Icelanders didn’t stop there: they decided to draft a new constitution that would free the country from the exaggerated power of international finance and virtual money. As one European country after another fails or risks failing, imperiling the Euro, with repercussions for the entire world, the last thing the powers that be want is for Iceland to become an example.

http://politicalirony.com/2011/08/24...-news-anymore/

August 2011 Unbelievable reaction by police to lemonade sellers.... Disturbing implications http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wlx...eature=related
and is this guy wrong in January 2011 when he warns of future food riots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXlSv...eature=related
highest decorated Police Officer in Phoenix history who warned of coming martial law wrong? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBrk...eature=related and what is the meaning of this phone call to a local radio station as long ago as 2009?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIVI5...eature=related and what are the implications of “The Sad Truth” April 2009? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElrXr...eature=related

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nice example JA,

I like David Icke he's always knocking the establishment and kabals etc.

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/5...er-who-you-are

the youtube on Glenn Beck talks about controlling the media, david icke has been saying THIS for years, who owns the media *Rupert Murdoch* whom all politicians like to cozy upto...

RED ALERT World War 3 Pre-Planned For 2011 - The Plan
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European Union is preparing for Something BIG
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WASHINGTON – The jobs crisis has left so many people out of work for so long that most of America's unemployed are no longer receiving unemployment benefits.

Early last year, 75 percent were receiving checks. The figure is now 48 percent -- a shift that points to a growing crisis of long-term unemployment. Nearly one-third of America's 14 million unemployed have had no job for a year or more.

Yet for a growing share of the unemployed, a vote in Congress to extend the benefits to 99 weeks is irrelevant. They've had no job for more than 99 weeks. They're no longer eligible for benefits.

Their options include food stamps or other social programs. Nearly 46 million people received food stamps in August, a record total. That figure could grow as more people lose unemployment benefits.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...eive-benefits/
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"this little-known member of the European Union fell back into oblivion" YEAh to a person who never took geography class it is "little-known" in 1980s Iceland was in the middle of ballistic missile treaty negotiations. this is a country of barely 300k cannot sustain real estate boom that has been going on for 12+ yeas. I was there in 2000. Everything was SOLD overnight 150% markup. Now tell me.... where do ppl get that money ??? from the banks! Who wrote the loans? Loan officers who just like in the US were putting the family made more money than they were actually making. and ppl blame banks? Banks should have been doing their homework and NOT relying on submortage brokers and agencies. PPl blaming banks where they should be blaming themselves. 0% payment - adjustable mortage ??? who are they kidding? Now they are complaining US govt and the banks are not helping? Banks are saying "Skrew you, you should have been reading your contracts before buying the property." They are right but what they are NOt doing is they are not allowing shortsales because banks take a big hit. The only ppl made money globally were the ppl who bought the homes at the beginning and sold it within 1 year in 2005-very early 2007. I know 1 guy who bought a building for 2.5 million (xrental) transformed it into a condo and sold all units for 300k - 42 of them ... Now how much profit did he walk away with? 14 MILLION! Who says that 100k property worth 300k overnight? Now Let's talk about Icelandic real estate / economical problems. people out of work (just like in the US) ,.. ppl are renting *just like in the US* one thng we do not have here in the states is Sale-by-swap, this would be great for the US. An average cost of icelandic home in 1998 was $60 per square foot .. by 2008 $191 per sq foot. Now it is $170 per square foot. Europe is in same sh*t. Ireland boom i saw it first hand in 2006 - everywhere BUILD BUILD BUILD.. now .. half finished houses in ireland standing as a eyesore. You can get a house in ireland for 25k EASY

It never fails if the real estate goes through the roof within 5 years- expect a mega crash. We saw this in early 1990s and in the 80s

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Scary stuff. It's weird seeing so many homeless people in such rich parts.

I still think Europe is in a worse situation though. America hit 9% unemployment and that gets attention. Spain has 21% (double, DOUBLE) and a variety of European countries have 14% or more. For that I'd like to see governments fall. Those banks do NOT deserve our cash.
USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bI_PAiCh0w connecting the dots
UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66fvJtfs6g
SPAIN May 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBakrZUgbEE

IRELAND http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-G5E...feature=relmfu

Why do banks lend governments money? Because with punitive interest rates, it's a nice little earner by jove and the bank then controls the government – irrespective of political affiliation... that's why when there's a change of government the situation does not change

But Icelanders refused to bow to the bankers and so their government was forced by the Icelandic people to legislate change.

So how can governments escape from the clutches of the bankers? By regulating the banks and refusing to borrow. But (a) governments worldwide are in debt to 'the banks' and (b)banks obviously resist being regulated - being more than happy as their investors wealth increases.

GREECE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDWR9-CrfI "The real cause of the crisis is not Greek economics or Greek public debt it is the Euro itself... it is a mechanism producing more debt for EVERY country and for every people, because of creating a huge banking system... we are talking about a banking system that is four times wealthier than the Eurozone GDP
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The initial decision to "spend" actually came before Obama was elected. Problem was the spending didn't go far enough, and then those that supported it when it was the idea of the other party suddenly reversed their support when they were no loger in power, and then effectively began blocking any further efforts to help. We have here a struggle for power that is only interested in being in control, and not in actually accomplishing anything.
Richard Heinberg’s latest landmark work goes to the heart of the ongoing financial crisis, explaining how and why it occurred, what we must do to avert the worst potential outcomes and shows why growth is being blocked by three factors
  • Resource depletion,
  • Environmental impacts, and
  • Crushing levels of debt.
These converging limits will force us to re-evaluate cherished economic theories and to reinvent money and commerce. The End of Growth describes what policymakers, communities, and families can do to build a new economy that operates within Earth’s budget of energy and resources. We can thrive during the transition if we set goals that promote human and environmental well-being, rather than continuing to pursue the now-unattainable prize of ever-expanding GDP.


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Don't you think this has a lot to do with Pluto in capricorn?

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Right now, Pluto's drama is playing out in the realm of finances, government and the environment. We're seeing desperate, compulsive and obsessive behavior come into the light, as more suffer from a system that's been revealed as unsound. Pluto's probing uncovers distorted thinking, and power being wielded destructively. The truth comes out, and in the financial world, we see a value-system that is poisoned by greed. It's based on a sick psychological foundation, one not in harmony with the cycles of life. Pluto has a way of using extremes to bring a point home. With the bailout, we see the truth made clear -- we have a hopelessly corrupt government, in cahoots with the banking interests.
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Pluto is the Roman name of Hades, the mythological Greek god of the underworld. But Pluto’s rule extends far beyond that of the nether regions. He is also the ruler of the dark side of our souls, and of our minds. Psychology is under the realm of Pluto, as is any other transforming science or doctrine. Among other dark subjects, Pluto rules crime,
dictatorships, and fascism
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Which brings us to Pluto’s coming transit of Capricorn from January 2008 to 2024. (Those Pluto transits are getting longer – as a result of its eccentric orbit. Most English people are pleased to note that the bombers responsible for the London bombings on July 7th, 2005 were conveniently identified on CCTV. Indeed the average English person’s movements outside their houses can be tracked from morning to night in Britain, which has the highest proportion of outdoor cameras anywhere in the world. Iris scanning has been implemented at airports, so in the years to come it will be an instantaneous process to identity all international travellers. http://www.world-of-wisdom.com/04_articles/2005/06_pluto.htm
Talk about big brother watching you..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm5tXGqfBIQ

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We see the power that be, attempting to have a 'global' banking system (for control)

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corruption in UK, even from 2009 and MP's cheating their expenses scandal. Then Rupert Murdoch phone tapping scandal. These are all big instituitions and capricorn governs...
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A massive volcanic eruption, possibly in January 2020, causing global climate change for several years is possible. If not, massive, devastating earthquake activity is possible, as are tsunamis. Global climate change shocks will become apparent between 2008 and 2023.
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I think it's widely accepted whoever owns the banks, rules the countries. That's why when Governments change, nothing really changes, due to the banks pulling the strings. Who owns these banks, probably a handful of people and like puppets we all dance to their tunes...

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Shocking numbers of children affected by poverty
2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV82Z...eature=related

2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpwI...feature=fvwrel

December 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO5b_...eature=related

6 March 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCKYB...eature=related
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I am pretty convinced the number of unemployed is much, much higher than what is being reported here in the United States. What about all the people who don't qualify that had small business that shut-down or other's whose benefits have run out(like mine). And the poster who said you are much better off having children; ain't that the truth!! I can't qualify for anything but food stamps, yet if I had children I would also receive besides food stamps, cash aid, housing aid vouchers, medical insurance and free breakfast and lunch for my children. This infuriates me as I really could use some help to get back on my feet! I was in a tax bracket where i was paying 49% of my income in taxes FOR YEARS yet people who have children can spend their entire lives on welfare without having ever paid dime! Don't even get me started about the people who come here illegally and drop their anchor babies who receive and entire host of benefits for their children!!! It's really scarey what is happening here in the United States and I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
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I am pretty convinced the number of unemployed is much, much higher than what is being reported here in the United States. What about all the people who don't qualify that had small business that shut-down or other's whose benefits have run out(like mine).
here's a report from July 2011 that agrees with you Vista
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkuSonZNCzY&feature=fvst
and banks are cashing in on the poor and unemployed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0UPxXYIDk

for those who have not viewed it yet, this Movie is a "must see"
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Great movie Jupiter, a bit disturbing but a "must see". This is why I believe that we have entered the age of Aquarius, as the illusions of the past are being exposed ( the age of Pisces). I have to wonder if we are truly into the new age though, as from past personal experience the influence of a planet changing signs is discernible before it changes signs, there must be an orb, which could be quite long in duration when we are dealing with the precession of the equinox! Maybe this movie represents a taste of what is to come in the very near future! I certainly hope so, it's long overdue!
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Vista: While we agree that this country is not what it used to be, not what it was supposed to be, and really not even functional anymore, I don't think that the reasons for these things have anything to do with "anchor babies."
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