Mars-Neptune aspects: pornstars or sex addicts?

Mars in the 12th opposite Neptune in the 6th. <2 degree orb, but conjunt saturn between 1 degree.

I think the saturn weighs the neptune down, but it also grounds the neptune. Therefore it is hard for me to go overboard with neptune.

So I dont really have anything to add.

I guess I am overly sexual, but also sexually fruestrated.

Oh yeah since neptune is opposite ascendant you know what people say about me, they think i smoke weed and this and that or they have false pretensions about me. I guess since neptune is near the DC I like spiritual girls, like i wouldnt touch anyone without spirituality. But I dont like lazy girls either.

Thank you for listening the saturn ruins it.

yeah people always think im on drugs they'll be like are you tripping? but i would just be on like gaba+niacin (neptune+saturn)

Alice McDermott said:

Quite a few swimmers have this aspect. The great Australian Olympic swimmer, Dawn Frasier, has Mars square Neptune, Ian Thorpe has it in a wide conjunction. This makes sense as energy (Mars) is put into water (Neptune).

It also comes up in the charts of sportsmen fairly frequently - for example, cricketer Ian Chappell has a conjunction and the Warne brothers have it in exact sextile. I did a search on my Sports file and found 33.61% of sports people have this aspect - a high percentage.

Film maker Scott Hicks has Neptune conjunct Ascendant opposite Mars conjunct Descendant.

I found that 33% of the charts in my Music and Dance section had this combination, which is also a high percentage.

These careers make sense as it is physical activity (Mars) put into imaginative endeavours (Neptune). I think it gives sports people dexterity and a sort of flair for their sport.

I have the aspect in trine and have never liked either alcohol or drugs. I was a swimmer in my youth and loved dance, gymnastics, acrobatics, yoga etc., I was very flexible physically.

Alice

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This is an interesting thread!
My brother has a Nep/Mars/ virgo conj, a sign that wants the body to run smoothly,health conscious.
When young, he was a body builder to impressive standards, so maybe the virgo linked with mars/nep is a kind of distorted impression of the body.
I read that often the mars/nep person has an issue with their own strength, and can feel helpless, so it would spurr them onto being strong and looking strong.
Hence sports.
I hated the water when young and nearly drowned three times.
I love to dance and have done yoga and weights.
I have mars/pisces sq Nep/scorpio, both sq taurus/moon.
I love to fantasise. I have vivid dreams and I use this for creative use.
When young I would press mysellf against the hallway dress mirror, and pretend I was looking into another world. I also used to test my strength, by going to places I knew were,not good.
Have done some drugs, but not addictive by nature, but with a man who is addictive.
Sexually, the more I have, the more I want, and when no sex, I forget how good it is, until reminded then its like having your fav dessert and wanting second helpings, and sexually I fantasise regularly.
I also attract waifs and strays, mars in the 6th house of small animals, and can't bare to see animals neglected.
My recent addiction is to mix peanuts and galaxy minstrels.
Does this aspect make one seductive.....?
Maybe Nep/mars aspects have to test their strength sexually, to feel less vulnerable, the seducer and the seduced.

Mars your personal energy is linked to Neptune the ideal. It's just in which way the two link which is the issue. Is it in an escapist way such as drugs or sex or idle dreams or is it in a way to dedicate your energy to some kind of higher cause to benefit society and others. I would say that is the issue here. The person may need time alone or in nature or by the sea to connect to their personal strength. This is related to Mars in Pisces so i have added a link to that below.

http://www.myastrologycharts.com
http://www.myastrologycharts.com/marsinpisces.php

Adam Levine from Maroon 5 has recently announce that he has slept with over 100 woman "Maybe the reason I was promiscuous, and wanted to sleep with a lot of them, is that I love them so much" ehh yeah right He has also moon in scorpio

I have 8th Taurus Mars inconjunct 3rd Sag Neptune and I'm not an addict of any kind...unless you count cats. I love cats.

Funny thing about some posters mentioned music and entertainment industry, I work in it, but not directly. My job is to write objectively and "sell" the image. Astrology can be quite amazing!

Thank you everybody for the wonderful shares. I read that Mars-Neptune is a love of the sea. It's also Sex(Mars) addiction (Neptune). It's passive-aggression, sadism-masochism, Assertion-Pacifism, reality vs Ideals. It is a highly romantic (Sex-Idealism) aspect & there is glamorization of people. There's also a tendency to fall into Savior-Victim relationships & chase the unavailable. It is prominent in the charts of romance novelists & sportsmen who can channel the assertion into something creative.

Poyi that was insightful, you got me thinking on some points.

A wonderful discussion... keep rolling!

Matahari said:

I am extremely fluid and have had problems knowing what are my desires and what are the other persons.

I have been known to manifest just about anything... just by dreaming it. I am very magnetic... yet can be invisible and hidden..( 12 house sun)

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Magnetic & larger than life personalities surely go with this aspect & so does filming/photography.

Merging into another caught my notice though....... is Neptune conjunct the Asc to produce that result?

fullmoonlibra said:

İ have a mars neptune conjunction in 5th.
Sagi at cusp.
Pluto transit is conjunct to it...
İt's the focal point of a small talent triangle with Pluto and Jupiter involved as sextiles.
So, what do you think about the sex drive, if you also know that Neptune is ruling 8th house ? Huge İ guess..
Oh and mars is exalted
.. And a touchy Venus in Taurus

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There are alot of perversions with this aspect & complicated ways of handling the guilt. I don't know if it's true for you but I find your outlets quite aligned.

well, i looked up my cat's chart. he has leo mars and he does love to hug up on other people right in front of me so maybe leo mars natives do get around

Blackempress said:

Thank you everybody for the wonderful shares. I read that Mars-Neptune is a love of the sea. It's also Sex(Mars) addiction (Neptune). It's passive-aggression, sadism-masochism, Assertion-Pacifism, reality vs Ideals. It is a highly romantic (Sex-Idealism) aspect & there is glamorization of people. There's also a tendency to fall into Savior-Victim relationships & chase the unavailable. It is prominent in the charts of romance novelists & sportsmen who can channel the assertion into something creative.

Poyi that was insightful, you got me thinking on some points.

A wonderful discussion... keep rolling!

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I do like to conquer the ideal/impossible. Venus/Neptune, ideal love and Mar/Neptune fighter for the underdogs

The inharmonious aspect of Mars/Neptune

"Of all planetary contracts these have been presented in worst possible light, and they have often been stated to indicate extraordinary depravity, usually either in regard to sex or drugs. "

"Ordinary life is too humdrum and colourless for Mars-Neptune native; hence he seeks pursuits that are capable of appealing to the romantic and grandeur-loving elements of the soul. The some seek a false satisfaction in the realms of the drug-taker and the sensualist does not alter the basic character of the aspect."

"Often there is a generous but short-sighted and resentful sympathy with the oppressed, and extremist and visionary tendencies may develop."

With other serious combination in the chart, diseases of the imagination, or through poisons or bad water are possible.

From the book, The Astrological Aspects, by Charles E.O. Carter

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Perhaps it is the Neptune on the Ascendant... squaring moon at the Ic.

It is very useful in writing music for film.. but human relationships suffer. I tend to draw in the suffering souls. I also can effortlessly step in and out of the spirit worlds and have been known to help the just passed spirits transition.

funny both of my parents are Piceses!

Matahari said:

Perhaps it is the Neptune on the Ascendant... squaring moon at the Ic.

It is very useful in writing music for film.. but human relationships suffer. I tend to draw in the suffering souls. I also can effortlessly step in and out of the spirit worlds and have been known to help the just passed spirits transition.

funny both of my parents are Piceses!

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Moon is Conj IC? Very interesting indeed. It sounds like a HEAVY Pisces effect & more over NURTURED pisces too.

PM me about Spirits I'm dying to learn.

Blackempress said:

Thank you everybody for the wonderful shares. I read that Mars-Neptune is a love of the sea. It's also Sex(Mars) addiction (Neptune). It's passive-aggression, sadism-masochism, Assertion-Pacifism, reality vs Ideals. It is a highly romantic (Sex-Idealism) aspect & there is glamorization of people. There's also a tendency to fall into Savior-Victim relationships & chase the unavailable. It is prominent in the charts of romance novelists & sportsmen who can channel the assertion into something creative.

Poyi that was insightful, you got me thinking on some points.

A wonderful discussion... keep rolling!

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Natally my Mars trined Neptune, but progressed now, it is square. In college, let's just say my role models were Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Marley. But now My Mars is in Virgo, and im a total straight edge and square. Neptune really does rule trips out to the sea from which many dont come back. (Ironically Morrison was found in a bathtub, Hendrix purportedly "drowned" in his own vomit.). My Neptune conjuncts Morrison's sun. I think that may have even been my past life!

Cant say Im a sex addict, but Im addicted to the glamour and mystique of women. I kind of idealize them and dont want to get too close as it will ruin the mystique a bit. also mars in virgo, as someone said above, really tends to focus on the negatives of the human body, the fluids, the odors, the germs and potential diseases, etc. Neptune doesnt care, and wants to merge with your soul (and of course with the help of alcohol, it's even easier not to care).

Neptune rules film as well, and that whole dreamlike quality of films, so maybe a square to neptune may show a **** addict. But with Mars in Virgo, even if it's sq Neptune, I think it's highly unlikely they would sleep around. Again, Virgo is just too "clean" to be trading bodily fluids with every and anybody. Its opposite would be Pisces, which after a few drinks can get pretty wild.

The pornstar though is Mars in Leo, fire planet in a fire sign=red hot. Mars rules sex, and the physical body, and Leo is all about putting on a performance. The world is a stage for leo, and that includes the bedroom! I would say in my younger, wilder days, I was more about the thrill of the chase, and wanting a lot of conquests, but not necessarily an addiction. My Saturn in Leo helped put that in check. So it's important to factor in where Saturn is, in relation to Mars, to see if they can control their urges! Saturn in 1st, or Mars in 10th can conserve their sexual energies.

All in all, I would say Mars Neptune trine would make opportunities widely available, and it would be a fun-seeking, romantic fantasy type thing. The square can bring issues though, either celibacy which,if taken too far can end up being perverted(see Catholic priests), or out of control sexual behavior fueled by drugs and alcohol, which will somehow be checked by Saturn one way or another. Either thru bad reputation, legal or health issues, or worse (see Whitney Houston and most of Hollywood)

mercury101 said:

Natally my Mars trined Neptune, but progressed now, it is square. In college, let's just say my role models were Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Marley. But now My Mars is in Virgo, and im a total straight edge and square. Neptune really does rule trips out to the sea from which many dont come back. (Ironically Morrison was found in a bathtub, Hendrix purportedly "drowned" in his own vomit.). My Neptune conjuncts Morrison's sun. I think that may have even been my past life!

Cant say Im a sex addict, but Im addicted to the glamour and mystique of women. I kind of idealize them and dont want to get too close as it will ruin the mystique a bit. also mars in virgo, as someone said above, really tends to focus on the negatives of the human body, the fluids, the odors, the germs and potential diseases, etc. Neptune doesnt care, and wants to merge with your soul (and of course with the help of alcohol, it's even easier not to care).

Neptune rules film as well, and that whole dreamlike quality of films, so maybe a square to neptune may show a **** addict. But with Mars in Virgo, even if it's sq Neptune, I think it's highly unlikely they would sleep around. Again, Virgo is just too "clean" to be trading bodily fluids with every and anybody. Its opposite would be Pisces, which after a few drinks can get pretty wild.

The pornstar though is Mars in Leo, fire planet in a fire sign=red hot. Mars rules sex, and the physical body, and Leo is all about putting on a performance. The world is a stage for leo, and that includes the bedroom! I would say in my younger, wilder days, I was more about the thrill of the chase, and wanting a lot of conquests, but not necessarily an addiction. My Saturn in Leo helped put that in check. So it's important to factor in where Saturn is, in relation to Mars, to see if they can control their urges! Saturn in 1st, or Mars in 10th can conserve their sexual energies.

All in all, I would say Mars Neptune trine would make opportunities widely available, and it would be a fun-seeking, romantic fantasy type thing. The square can bring issues though, either celibacy which,if taken too far can end up being perverted(see Catholic priests), or out of control sexual behavior fueled by drugs and alcohol, which will somehow be checked by Saturn one way or another. Either thru bad reputation, legal or health issues, or worse (see Whitney Houston and most of Hollywood)

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Mars in Virgo 1st, Neptune in Sagittarius 4th, Square. Morally I can't accept myself to sleep around. If I do I will feel myself selling my own soul to devil and lose my dignity. To sleep around to me is like the absolute self destruction of the body, soul and spirit so as drug addiction. These two involve body, soul and spirit the complete destruction of an ego/self. Virgo is a sign of picky hygienic freak also as the sign of Purity, the Virgin.

poyi said:

To sleep around to me is like the absolute self destruction of the body, soul and spirit so as drug addiction. These two involve body, soul and spirit the complete destruction of an ego/self. Virgo is a sign of picky hygienic freak also as the sign of Purity, the Virgin.

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Love the way you put it!

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An ex had Mars opposition Neptune (4th) ... he loved bondage [deleted graphic sexual mention - Moderator] The Mars had a nice from Pluto (3rd house).

I fricking hate this aspects. Mars square Neptune IGHH I heard it was mostly found in pornstars. I have it in my chart My mars libra 4th house square my neptune uranus conj Capricorn.

Despite the bad effect this aspects brings. I think it has potential for great artistic creativity if native developed self discipline he can pour those talents. writing poetry and drawing painting can help to release the tension that mars Neptune brings and help with the martians impulses. This is also a great indicator of dancer most of dancer has this aspects

Native is also great swimming I have this aspects and I am shocker swimmer.

I also have Sun Virgo equal my mars Neptune midpoint

poyi said:

Mars in Virgo 1st, Neptune in Sagittarius 4th, Square. Morally I can't accept myself to sleep around. If I do I will feel myself selling my own soul to devil and lose my dignity. To sleep around to me is like the absolute self destruction of the body, soul and spirit so as drug addiction. These two involve body, soul and spirit the complete destruction of an ego/self. Virgo is a sign of picky hygienic freak also as the sign of Purity, the Virgin.

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This reminded of song by Florence and the machine :

Seems that I have been held, in some dreaming state
A tourist in the waking world, never quite awake
No kiss, no gentle word could wake me from this slumber
Until I realise that it was you who held me under

Felt it in my fist, in my feet, in the hollows of my eyelids
Shaking through my skull, through my spine and down through my ribs

No more dreaming of the dead as if death itself was undone
No more calling like a crow for a boy, for a body in the garden

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When I hear this song Mars neptune bump in my head

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time of over indulge habit. Time of hypersensitive. Time of confusion. time of confused action. time of colored imagination. Time of addiction of all sorts . time discipline is needed