My dad is not my biological father

neptunian said:

His Dna to your mars, amazing. and other connections. Asteroids show up in very important places sometimes. By the way, what do you think about his moon sign? I think his moon sign is libra, but i also wonder what your gut feeling says. Scorpio moons gut feeling is really strong.

What i know about Pholus; it is associated with an action leads to fated, major events. Definitely needs to be searched more, i think we need to dive into mythology to find other relevant asteroids.

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What I think about his moon: I know that he changed 4 work places, cos he was unhappy. Also his last place of work made him unhappy, as his wife said in an interview about him, "there was a lot of pain hidden there". For me it's an indication of Scorp moon. I did the same work wise in my life too, slamming doors and going into nowhere if I felt unappreciated On the other hand he was a very smiley nice individual, a charmer without an effort. That's Libra moon. It would be nice if I could say that I inherited my Scorp moon from him, but I know too little about him to be certain for sure. He has nice dimples on his cheeks which could be Libra moon. But I have them too, with my tortured Scorp moon, blast it

Just remembered something else which might indicate Scorp moon. He was quite superstitious. Not long before he died somebody said to him that number 26 was bad for him. So he said to his wife that if he gets through the 26th of December then he will be ok. He died on the 26th of December 1980.
So logically I have more facts that push my thinking towards Scorp moon. But again, I don't know anybody with Libra moon to compare him to. Do you know much about Libra moons?

Adar said:

What I think about his moon: I know that he changed 4 work places, cos he was unhappy. Also his last place of work made him unhappy, as his wife said in an interview about him, "there was a lot of pain hidden there". For me it's an indication of Scorp moon. I did the same work wise in my life too, slamming doors and going into nowhere if I felt unappreciated On the other hand he was a very smiley nice individual, a charmer without an effort. That's Libra moon. It would be nice if I could say that I inherited my Scorp moon from him, but I know too little about him to be certain for sure. He has nice dimples on his cheeks which could be Libra moon. But I have them too, with my tortured Scorp moon, **** it

Just remembered something else which might indicate Scorp moon. He was quite superstitious. Not long before he died somebody said to him that number 26 was bad for him. So he said to his wife that if he gets through the 26th of December then he will be ok. He died on the 26th of December 1980.

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What you said about his work life also can help, i need to check his chart again. He has either libra moon with scorpio ascendant. or scorpio moon with gemini ascendant. because he must be born before 12 p.m. because the rest of the day doesn't make sense to me in terms of house placements and transits. I even think after midnight time,1 a.m you know. His ascendant can be conjunct your moon. This is also common between parent child. Ascendant to sun or moon. Ascendant to moon can be a sharper connection even.

He was superstitious, this is also good information dear Adar. I will check his chart regarding these information.

Adar said:

My Mars and his DNA, wow. Mars is blood. Literally, his DNA in my blood. I froze when I read it. You r a genius. You know what I thought? Persephone the hidden daughter asteroid. It's conjunct my Neptune. Also, I found asteroid named Abai. אבא in Hebrew means dad. The first two letters of his surname is AB. So I put the asteroids Abai and Persephone on our composite, have a look

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Clarification:


members discuss planetary meanings
within any and all contexts
including that of one thousand five hundred asteroids


or

a mere 700 asteroids


if that is ones preference

for example:

Zarathu said:

I use the following asteroids for love and relationship:

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Zarathu said:

Erato, Amor, Bienor, Bosque Alegre, Compassion, Amanda,
Frigga, Klyria, Medea, Rousseau, Summa, Valentine, Anteros, Hathor, Jason, Moraes, Peirithoos,
Pocahintas, Sidi, Ubasti, Sappho, Amicitia, Patroclus, Cupido, Medusa,
Hephaistos, Demeter, Hera, Thereus, Valentine, Nessus,
Ariadne,
Chariklo, Close, Rhoda, Damocles

Does anyone use others not here, and what do they mean?

Zarathu

its a small number. I regularly use 700 of them

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Clearly then
our forum discussion includes

on a varied spectrum of astrological shades of opinion

GUESSING is fun butnotoriously unreliable
far more practical would be to have your own DNA tested
an AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST
would link you to family
and you may discover your BIOLOGICAL relatives

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OMG, Neptunian, look what I have just found on the internet!!!

And this too! I am going to look at it properly and join this website if I can, will write to you asap

JUPITERASC said:

Clarification:


members discuss planetary meanings
within any and all contexts
including that of one thousand five hundred asteroids


or

a mere 700 asteroids


if that is ones preference

for example:

Clearly then
our forum discussion includes

on a varied spectrum of astrological shades of opinion

GUESSING is fun butnotoriously unreliable
far more practical would be to have your own DNA tested
an AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST
would link you to family
and you may discover your BIOLOGICAL relatives

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Hi, jupiterasc ,

Thanks for your suggestions.

We are experimenting. My guesses are based on analyzing transits of important events to his father's natal chart. Also we are looking at planet and asteroid interaspects between their charts. As an astrology lover, i give importance to astrological search and observation.

Adar said:

OMG, Neptunian, look what I have just found on the internet!!!

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What is that Adar? I'm curious. It seems small, i can't understand clearly.

JUPITERASC said:

Clarification:


members discuss planetary meanings
within any and all contexts
including that of one thousand five hundred asteroids


or

a mere 700 asteroids


if that is ones preference

for example:

Clearly then
our forum discussion includes

on a varied spectrum of astrological shades of opinion

GUESSING is fun butnotoriously unreliable
far more practical would be to have your own DNA tested
an AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST
would link you to family
and you may discover your BIOLOGICAL relatives

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"an AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST
would link you to family
and you may discover your BIOLOGICAL relatives"



Hi, jupiterasc, thank you for your
suggestion, will defo look into this

neptunian said:

Hi, jupiterasc ,

Thanks for your suggestions.

We are experimenting. My guesses are based on analyzing transits of important events to his father's natal chart. Also we are looking at planet and asteroid interaspects between their charts. As an astrology lover, i give importance to astrological search and observation.

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Certainty requires BIOLOGICAL DNA
and your own DNA holds the answers you seek


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Adar said:

"an AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST
would link you to family
and you may discover your BIOLOGICAL relatives"

Hi, jupiterasc, thank you for your
suggestion, will defo look into this

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FTDNA website
aka Family Tree DNA
for reliable AUTOSOMAL DNA testing

JUPITERASC said:

Certainty requires BIOLOGICAL DNA
and your own DNA holds the answers you seek


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Yes, JUPITERASC,

but her father is dead unfortunately.

I am trying to find his ascendant analyzing transits. And we compare charts. If you can find asteroids related to parent-child, please share.

JUPITERASC said:

Certainty requires BIOLOGICAL DNA
and your own DNA holds the answers you seek


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Hi, jupiterasc, I can't do any more tests right now in terms of finding my blood relatives because of a man who has been my father since I was born. He is 85 now and quite frail. I don't want him to know that I have opened a pandora box. I have to wait till he is no longer with me before persuing any blood relatives for answers. It's the least I can do for him. I am sure he knows I am not his child, but he never even once let me know in any way that I am not his. Meanwhile as Neptunian said, I am experimenting with different astrological possibilities. Neptunian is doing a fantastic job and I am very honoured and more than happy to look at different planetary patterns. When Dad finally goes, I will most probably contact my blood brothers for more information. The DNA test you mentioned, is it an online laboratory that can find my blood relatives? Could you expand on this please if possible? I'd be most grateful.

Adar said:

Hi, jupiterasc, I can't do any more tests right now
in terms of finding my blood relatives
because of
a man who has been my father since I was born.
He is 85 now and quite frail.

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AUTOSOMAL DNA TESTING finds your blood relatives
BY USING YOUR DNA ONLY
i.e.
your DNA is analysed by the company
then the company checks DNA already provided
by hundreds of thousands of other people
searching for possible match

thus
AUTOSOMAL DNA matches to BLOOD RELATIVES
that you may not even know the existence of

Many people similar to yourself
are seeking to find their blood relatives
and so
IF one of your blood relatives
is on the FTDNA site
seeking their blood relatives
then you would find each other
Distant relatives
as well as
close relatives

Adar said:

I don't want him to know that I have opened a pandora box.

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he won't know - simply because you don't need his DNA

Adar said:

I have to wait till he is no longer with me
before persuing any blood relatives for answers.

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If there are any matches
to your AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST on FTDNA website
no one would know of those matches - only yourself
everyone has their own personal accoun
t with log in and password

Adar said:

It's the least I can do for him.
I am sure he knows I am not his child, but
he never even once let me know in any way that I am not his.
Meanwhile as Neptunian said,
I am experimenting with different astrological possibilities.
Neptunian is doing a fantastic job
and I am very honoured and more than happy
to look at different planetary patterns.
When Dad finally goes, I will most probably contact my blood brothers
for more information.

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you can still have your own AUTOSOMAL DNA analysed
without telling anyone
- you can ask your blood brothers at your leisure
at any time
now or later
makes no difference
you only need your own DNA

Adar said:

The DNA test you mentioned, is it an online laboratory
that can find my blood relatives?

Could you expand on this please if possible?
I'd be most grateful.

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use your search engine
search for FTDNA autosomal testing

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JUPITERASC said:

AUTOSOMAL DNA TESTING finds your blood relatives
BY USING YOUR DNA ONLY
i.e.
your DNA is analysed by the company
then the company checks DNA already provided
by hundreds of thousands of other people
searching for possible match

thus
AUTOSOMAL DNA matches to BLOOD RELATIVES
that you may not even know the existence of

Many people similar to yourself
are seeking to find their blood relatives
and so
IF one of your blood relatives
is on the FTDNA site
seeking their blood relatives
then you would find each other
Distant relatives
as well as
close relatives

he won't know - simply because you don't need his DNA

If there are any matches
to your AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST on FTDNA website
no one would know of those matches - only yourself
everyone has their own personal accoun
t with log in and password

you can still have your own AUTOSOMAL DNA analysed
without telling anyone
- you can ask your blood brothers at your leisure
at any time
now or later
makes no difference
you only need your own DNA

use your search engine
search for FTDNA autosomal testing

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Wow, thank you for that! will look into this!

Adar, I realized now you asked about libra moons. Libra moons i know have a smiley face, Scorpio moons often appear more serious at first. But many libra moon i know are women.. One of my friend has libra moon and her mother has a beauty saloon and another friend with a libra moon, her mother runs a clothing store. Their mothers' jobs related to Venus. So moon in the chart really relates to mother. Considering, his family background mostly artistic (venus) and literary (air sign) Libra moon makes sense.

You mentioned he changed work places many times. Uranus in 6th. Another positive testimony for scorpio ascendant. Uranus brings sudden changes where it sits, in 6th; the native doesn't want to be restricted in where he works. doesn't want a 9to5 job, doesn't like routine; needs flexibility and excitement. can have a unique way of doing things. and creative at work, original ideas. Uranus can cause feelings of irritation at work place.

Adar said:

Wow, thank you for that! will look into this!

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Adar said:

What I think about his moon: I know that he changed 4 work places, cos he was unhappy. Also his last place of work made him unhappy, as his wife said in an interview about him, "there was a lot of pain hidden there". For me it's an indication of Scorp moon. I did the same work wise in my life too, slamming doors and going into nowhere if I felt unappreciated On the other hand he was a very smiley nice individual, a charmer without an effort. That's Libra moon. It would be nice if I could say that I inherited my Scorp moon from him, but I know too little about him to be certain for sure. He has nice dimples on his cheeks which could be Libra moon. But I have them too, with my tortured Scorp moon, blast it

Just remembered something else which might indicate Scorp moon. He was quite superstitious. Not long before he died somebody said to him that number 26 was bad for him. So he said to his wife that if he gets through the 26th of December then he will be ok. He died on the 26th of December 1980.
So logically I have more facts that push my thinking towards Scorp moon. But again, I don't know anybody with Libra moon to compare him to. Do you know much about Libra moons?

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Any "Libra Moon" varies
dependent on the house location of VENUS - ruler of LIBRA

Moon completes sidereal cycles with 27.32166 days and anomalistic cycles with 27.55454 days.
Ascending Node completes retreating sidereal cycles
with 18.61295 years.

Moon is moistening and moderately heating
benefic, feminine and nocturnal.

Moon makes those born under her white, with fine figure,
beautiful eyes, having excess of moist.
Moon controls life, light, kingship, the household,
high priesthood, affluence, gathering of the masses,
foresight, the body, travel, fortune, appearance,
outcomes, possessions, cohabitation, housekeeping,
gains and expenditures, cities, assemblies, ships,
the mother and the conception,
the respiratory system, the upper gastrointestinal tract,
the eyesight, especially the left eye,
glass and reflection, silver, white colours and salty tastes.
It is chronocrator over infancy up to the 4th year.

Bibliography:
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf


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The image of the Scales aka LIBRA
is masculine, diurnal, changeable, human, truthful, economical,
judicial, common, eloquent, semi-fertile, handsome, sitting and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, crafts, trade and changes.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Libra
are well-proportioned and graceful, notable, noble, supervisors,
artisans, encountering many vicissitudes
because of the tipping of the Scales,
covetous, average, youthful, with fine face, fine figure,
beautiful eyes, poetical, thick lips, beautiful hair,
white, merchants, judges, lawyers, supervisors of crops,
vineyards, olive groves, aromatics, homesteads,
measures, posts, crafts and grain supplies.
Domicile of Venus, exaltation of Saturn, depression of Sun,

The first 6° belong to Saturn - destructive, grief from loved ones, reductions of wealth
The next 8° belong to Mercury - versatile, fertile
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - allotments, inheritances, gifts of land
The next 7° belong to Venus - good fortune, kind, musical, clean
The final 2° belong to Mars - strength, leadership, abundance

Extremities - Jupiter and Mercury
Middle - Saturn and moderately Mars


Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae: accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri. Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages. Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf




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JUPITERASC said:

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The image of the Scales aka LIBRA
is masculine, diurnal, changeable, human, truthful, economical,
judicial, common, eloquent, semi-fertile, handsome, sitting and of the east wind.
It indicates disputes, affairs, crafts, trade and changes.
Depending on the placement of the houseruler,
men born under the influence of Libra
are well-proportioned and graceful, notable, noble, supervisors,
artisans, encountering many vicissitudes
because of the tipping of the Scales,
covetous, average, youthful, with fine face, fine figure,
beautiful eyes, poetical, thick lips, beautiful hair,
white, merchants, judges, lawyers, supervisors of crops,
vineyards, olive groves, aromatics, homesteads,
measures, posts, crafts and grain supplies.
Domicile of Venus, exaltation of Saturn, depression of Sun,

The first 6° belong to Saturn - destructive, grief from loved ones, reductions of wealth
The next 8° belong to Mercury - versatile, fertile
The next 7° belong to Jupiter - allotments, inheritances, gifts of land
The next 7° belong to Venus - good fortune, kind, musical, clean
The final 2° belong to Mars - strength, leadership, abundance

Extremities - Jupiter and Mercury
Middle - Saturn and moderately Mars


Bibliography:
Ludwich, A. (Ed.). (1877). Maximi et Ammonis carminum De actionum auspiciis reliquiae: accedunt Anecdota astrologica. BG Teubneri. Retrieved from https://archive.org/details/maximietammonisc00ludw/page/n3
Manilius, & Goold, G. P. (1985). Astronomica. BG Teubner.
Robbins, F. E. (1940). Ptolemy: Tetrabiblos. William Heinmann, London. Retrieved from http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Ptolemy/Tetrabiblos/home.html
Schmidt, R. The Astrological Record of the Early Greek Sages. Project Hindsight.
Valens, V. Anthologia. Translated by Mark Riley. Retrieved from https://www.csus.edu/indiv/r/rileymt/Vettius Valens entire.pdf




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Fab reading, thank you, Jupiterasc! Have my hands full now with all the reading I have to do! ❤️

Adar said:

Fab reading, thank you, Jupiterasc!

Have my hands full now with all the reading I have to do! ❤️

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Reading, learning, vigilantly practising is the fun of astrology




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