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simplyinsight
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Yes, it probably is correct. A Progressed Chart is a snapshot of the Natal Chart "progressed" into the future... so the ASC will change, the positions of the planets will change, and moreover, "you" change over a period of time JUST LIKE the progressed chart changes.
There are two ways to progress a chart:
Secondary Progressions and Solar Arc Progressions.
Secondary uses a "day-for-a-year" rule... meaning, I was born on May 1, 1:32pm... that means, at age 1 the Progressed Chart would be cast for May 2, 1:32pm... thus at age 2 it would be May 3, at 1:32pm and so forth .... the newfound positions of the planets are the Progressed Points (or Progressed Positions). How they relate to one another is significant. How those points ALSO relate to the Natal Positions is equally intriguing... and when you place the Transits (and Eclipses, Full Moons, New Moons) out onto the outside of that wheel and analyze all 3 of them together, you have a VERY powerful tool for predicting... it gets VERY hectic, but if you spend time and start looking at what first affects the personal planets of the Natal AND the Progressed Chart for the given period of time you want to analyze--- Sun, Moon, ASC--- then you have a great sense of knowing about what is coming in a significant manner, i.e. moving to a new city, building your own home, taking on a new career path, going in for a cosmetic surgery that changes your personality and your outlook on life, etc...
Solar Arc (which I don't use that much) uses a "degree-for-a-year" rule... that is, no matter what, everything is dependent on the Arc (or the degrees of separation from the Natal Position) of the Sun within a day's time (considering the same idea for the above, except EVERYTHING now is dependent on that Arc that the Sun progressed... the Sun is the Leader in the Solar Arc method). So, let's say your Sun is at 15 degrees Aries... generally, the Sun moves about a degree a day, so you can even sort of "guess" that at age 10, your Sun is--- where? ... yep, 25 degrees of Aries, now (or 24 or 26 degrees, it's not always a degree so let a computer do all the minute math, ... I'm just using this as an example, so let's assume it's an exact degree per year of life --i.e. per day thereafter your birth date when the Sun was at 15 degrees of Aries). So, if your Mars was Natally at 25 degrees of Leo... now at age 10, the Progressed position of Mars is at 5 degrees of Virgo because it--- yep, you guessed it-- follows the King... THE SUN! So THAT chart in itself can be analyzed as if it were the Natal Chart of "Today".... let me re-phrase, EVERYTHING is dependent on that Arc -- so you "progress" each Natal Position ahead x-amount of degrees,... whatever the Sun advances in a given day thereafter your birth.... so May 1st is age 0, May 2nd is age 1, May 3rd is age 2.... etc... ok I keep repeating myself... LOL
Bad examples, but I hope that makes sense. Google it. It's not really that difficult to understand. At first, your biggest beef is to understand how to use them in predictive work.
There are two branches of astrology in my mind -- NATAL and PREDICTIVE.
Natal deals with the Strengths and Weaknesses you were born and what you agreed to deal with in this life on a soul-contracted level. Predictive deals with the Opportunities and Threats. This is called a SWOT analysis -- you can do this really quick, too, for anyone!!! Just get a tri-wheel on your screen going with Natal in the middle of the wheel, the 2nd wheel outside of that wheel make it the Progressed Chart (of your choice, I prefer Secondary because the Moon Progresses "faster" than with Solar Arcs of course...) and the Transits on the very outer 3rd wheel. That way, you see it all at a glance. Look first to the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant, ... then look for the major points, like Stelliums, or over-emphasis of Fire or Air or something in the chart, ... then make your list of Strengths and Weaknesses. Then start yourself off with the Progressed Chart itself, and you know the Opportunities and Threats --- then the Progressed and how it aligns with the personal Trifecta (Sun, Moon, ASC) of the Natal.... then see the Transits and how they hit the Progressed points in that period of time--- pretend now like the Progressed Chart is the Natal Chart when you analyze the Transits against the Progressed.... and you have even MORE of a clearer picture of the Opportunities and Threats.
Strengths are things we are equipped with in order to overcome our weaknesses and take advantage of our Opportunities, thus, avoiding potential future Threats. That's the point of astrology to me! But, define it yourself and play around with it, it's a lot of fun.
- SimplyInsight (aka Scott)
There are two ways to progress a chart:
Secondary Progressions and Solar Arc Progressions.
Secondary uses a "day-for-a-year" rule... meaning, I was born on May 1, 1:32pm... that means, at age 1 the Progressed Chart would be cast for May 2, 1:32pm... thus at age 2 it would be May 3, at 1:32pm and so forth .... the newfound positions of the planets are the Progressed Points (or Progressed Positions). How they relate to one another is significant. How those points ALSO relate to the Natal Positions is equally intriguing... and when you place the Transits (and Eclipses, Full Moons, New Moons) out onto the outside of that wheel and analyze all 3 of them together, you have a VERY powerful tool for predicting... it gets VERY hectic, but if you spend time and start looking at what first affects the personal planets of the Natal AND the Progressed Chart for the given period of time you want to analyze--- Sun, Moon, ASC--- then you have a great sense of knowing about what is coming in a significant manner, i.e. moving to a new city, building your own home, taking on a new career path, going in for a cosmetic surgery that changes your personality and your outlook on life, etc...
Solar Arc (which I don't use that much) uses a "degree-for-a-year" rule... that is, no matter what, everything is dependent on the Arc (or the degrees of separation from the Natal Position) of the Sun within a day's time (considering the same idea for the above, except EVERYTHING now is dependent on that Arc that the Sun progressed... the Sun is the Leader in the Solar Arc method). So, let's say your Sun is at 15 degrees Aries... generally, the Sun moves about a degree a day, so you can even sort of "guess" that at age 10, your Sun is--- where? ... yep, 25 degrees of Aries, now (or 24 or 26 degrees, it's not always a degree so let a computer do all the minute math, ... I'm just using this as an example, so let's assume it's an exact degree per year of life --i.e. per day thereafter your birth date when the Sun was at 15 degrees of Aries). So, if your Mars was Natally at 25 degrees of Leo... now at age 10, the Progressed position of Mars is at 5 degrees of Virgo because it--- yep, you guessed it-- follows the King... THE SUN! So THAT chart in itself can be analyzed as if it were the Natal Chart of "Today".... let me re-phrase, EVERYTHING is dependent on that Arc -- so you "progress" each Natal Position ahead x-amount of degrees,... whatever the Sun advances in a given day thereafter your birth.... so May 1st is age 0, May 2nd is age 1, May 3rd is age 2.... etc... ok I keep repeating myself... LOL
Bad examples, but I hope that makes sense. Google it. It's not really that difficult to understand. At first, your biggest beef is to understand how to use them in predictive work.
There are two branches of astrology in my mind -- NATAL and PREDICTIVE.
Natal deals with the Strengths and Weaknesses you were born and what you agreed to deal with in this life on a soul-contracted level. Predictive deals with the Opportunities and Threats. This is called a SWOT analysis -- you can do this really quick, too, for anyone!!! Just get a tri-wheel on your screen going with Natal in the middle of the wheel, the 2nd wheel outside of that wheel make it the Progressed Chart (of your choice, I prefer Secondary because the Moon Progresses "faster" than with Solar Arcs of course...) and the Transits on the very outer 3rd wheel. That way, you see it all at a glance. Look first to the Sun, Moon, and Ascendant, ... then look for the major points, like Stelliums, or over-emphasis of Fire or Air or something in the chart, ... then make your list of Strengths and Weaknesses. Then start yourself off with the Progressed Chart itself, and you know the Opportunities and Threats --- then the Progressed and how it aligns with the personal Trifecta (Sun, Moon, ASC) of the Natal.... then see the Transits and how they hit the Progressed points in that period of time--- pretend now like the Progressed Chart is the Natal Chart when you analyze the Transits against the Progressed.... and you have even MORE of a clearer picture of the Opportunities and Threats.
Strengths are things we are equipped with in order to overcome our weaknesses and take advantage of our Opportunities, thus, avoiding potential future Threats. That's the point of astrology to me! But, define it yourself and play around with it, it's a lot of fun.
- SimplyInsight (aka Scott)
hypnotiqu3
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You're awesome, Scott; so insightful! Thank you as always...I hope this gets easier for me. Right now its still confusing.
beginner
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Progressions are internal change, when progress planet enter in other house and makes any aspects with natal planets it creates internal change or when transits planets make aspect with progressed planet and natal planets an event can occur.
In ur Display pic, is that u?
In ur Display pic, is that u?
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JUPITERASC
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Some help from Modern Astrologer Celeste Teal http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/secondary_progressions.htm who has written several astrological books
http://www.astrologyzine.com/predict.shtml
http://www.astrologyzine.com/predict-2.shtml
http://www.astrologyzine.com/predict-3.shtml
http://www.astrologyzine.com/astrofaq.shtml#ASTROLOGY:
astrologer50
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progressed charts are not meant to be read as stand alones, but on the outside of natal. You can selection in Extended chart selection, natal, progressions and transits
progressed planets
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=266189&postcount=8
progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart
Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.
So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.
What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”
http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html
If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm
solar arcs & secondary progressions
http://www.kepler.edu/videos/0902SolarArc/Stathis_SolarArc_Feb09.pdf
The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.
Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..