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One line that comes to mind when I see that config. is "Undermining of one's sense of self from without". Due to the symbols involved, perhaps a father complex. Seems to be a pressuring influence on the life.
Nothing in H1 in Placidus, for sense of self. Since I'm using 12/12, I count Saturn in Gem as a "Benefactor".

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What's your interp for the t-square?
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What's your interp for the t-square?
Slow but steady. And, Easy does it. Plans probably won't work out as planned, but will work out.
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Side note does anyone know what "lotus kids" means?
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Side note does anyone know what "lotus kids" means?
It's a Cambodian creation, designed to help working-class kids.

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Slow but steady. And, Easy does it. Plans probably won't work out as planned, but will work out.
Hello.
I read your reply,and I'm quite surprised to find out that my chart has been analyzed here.I must thank you both for doing this.
Yes,what you both said about my T-square is true.I feel a constant pressure on me from almost every person important in my life,especially from my family(my mother is the more authoritarian one,not my father).
And I indeed do things slowly but steady,but now it's been harder for me because everybody around me does things faster...
And conspiracy theorist confirmed the thing with uncertainty and security(Angular Uranus and 8th house Cancer Moon).
Again,many thanks,I never expected to(indirectly)get here!
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Hello.
I read your reply,and I'm quite surprised to find out that my chart has been analyzed here.I must thank you both for doing this.
Yes,what you both said about my T-square is true.I feel a constant pressure on me from almost every person important in my life,especially from my family(my mother is the more authoritarian one,not my father).
And I indeed do things slowly but steady,but now it's been harder for me because everybody around me does things faster...
And conspiracy theorist confirmed the thing with uncertainty and security(Angular Uranus and 8th house Cancer Moon).
Again,many thanks,I never expected to(indirectly)get here!
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C.t. coined the expression I used, "dynamic uncertainty", so I thought he should have a look at the Chart to which I applied it.
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Lol. The lotus kids in reference to the red hot chili peppers, my apologies.
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C.t. coined the expression I used, "dynamic uncertainty", so I thought he should have a look at the Chart to which I applied it.
I get it now,it was more of a case study when your method was applied...
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Lol. The lotus kids in reference to the red hot chili peppers, my apologies.
There's a movie called "Lotus Eaters" from 2011.
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I get it now,it was more of a case study when your method was applied...
Also, you have an interesting Chart, with lots goin on!
And, I'm also Piscean Sun and Mercury.

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Also, you have an interesting chart, with lots goin on!
It's nice of you to say that!
I never believed my chart was interesting,I don't have a 6-7 planets stellium or a special pattern like a Kite,Mystic Rectangle,Yod...
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Also, you have an interesting Chart, with lots goin on!
And, I'm also Piscean Sun and Mercury.
Really?Do you also have those?
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Nothing in H1 in Placidus, for sense of self. Since I'm using 12/12, I count Saturn in Gem as a "Benefactor".
Also what does 12/12 mean?
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Also what does 12/12 mean?
Oh oh. I'm supposed to fully explain it in a thread of its own. And, it incorporates the Aquarian Age from a tropical point of view, which I had to figure out on my own, since no one else seems to have realized the possibility.
I'm also supposed to explain THAT, which is sort of a prerequisite to exploring "12/12".
Short answer: 12/12 adds two Domicile-rulers, the Asc and the Age-indicator, bringing the number of Domicile-rulers to 12, one for each Sign. There are meaningful Sign/Rulership patterns involved, which adds interpretive information to the standard, Modernistic methods most of us are already using. Makes changes to things like Exalted placements, etc. as used in Traditionalistic astrology, which is "7/12": Seven Domicile-rulers for 12 Signs, with the 5 easily visible planets having 2 Domicile-signs each.
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Really?Do you also have those?
Yes. I'm smart in a slow kind of way.
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Oh oh. I'm supposed to fully explain it in a thread of its own. And, it incorporates the Aquarian Age from a tropical point of view, which I had to figure out on my own, since no one else seems to have realized the possibility.
I'm also supposed to explain THAT, which is sort of a prerequisite to exploring "12/12".
Short answer: 12/12 adds two Domicile-rulers, the Asc and the Age-indicator, bringing the number of Domicile-rulers to 12, one for each Sign. There are meaningful Sign/Rulership patterns involved, which adds interpretive information to the standard, Modernistic methods most of us are already using. Makes changes to things like Exalted placements, etc. as used in Traditionalistic astrology, which is "7/12": Seven Domicile-rulers for 12 Signs, with the 5 easily visible planets having 2 Domicile-signs each.
Interesting,I never heard of this before.
I'm curious about this Age-indicator though...
It's about how the Aquarian Age is reflecting in a person's chart?
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Yes. I'm smart in a slow kind of way.
I can definitely relate.I mostly learn through sounds,pictures,movies,or imagining the lesson itself.
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Interesting,I never heard of this before.
I'm curious about this Age-indicator though...
It's about how the Aquarian Age is reflecting in a person's chart?
Yes, the Age-indicator is a full-fledged rulership member. It represents our own planet Earth's astrological effect as it transits the Signs. Actually, the Aquarian Age hasn't started yet though--it's on deck, waiting for this tropical Age of Capricorn to reach its amazing but painful conclusion. The timing is tricky, because there's "nutation" involved, so the astronomy requires a lot of explaining as well. Sign-blending is important also--it's now Cap mixed with an ever-increasing amount of Aquarius.

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Ive been waiting for a thread to explain 12/12. Id also really like to see how using the Age of Aquarius works in a chart and to see a step by step guide to how 12/12 works, or what is classed as a benefactor etc
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Yes, the Age-indicator is a full-fledged rulership member. It represents our own planet Earth's astrological effect as it transits the Signs. Actually, the Aquarian Age hasn't started yet though--it's on deck, waiting for this tropical Age of Capricorn to reach its amazing but painful conclusion. The timing is tricky, because there's "nutation" involved. The astronomy requires explaining as well. Sign-blending is important also--it's now Cap mixed with an ever-increasing amount of Aquarius.
I read lots of theories about the Age of Aquarius...
Nutation?What kind of nutation?
We're dwelling into astronomy?
We're now on the border of two Ages...It's estimated that the Aquarian Age will begin in a few centuries...
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Ive been waiting for a thread to explain 12/12. Id also really like to see how using the Age of Aquarius works in a chart and to see a step by step guide to how 12/12 works, or what is classed as a benefactor etc
Actually,I'm curious about this too.
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I’ve been waiting for a thread to explain 12/12. I’d also really like to see how using the Age of Aquarius works in a chart and to see a step by step guide to how 12/12 works, or what is classed as a benefactor etc
It's not just about the Age of Aquarius. It's about a viable "Age-indicator" which transits all of the Signs, and is now approaching tropical Aquarius. "Step by step"....interesting way to approach it. I've been having trouble figuring out the best type of format. Thanks!
Maybe with Merc in Libra I'll be able to really get a start on this project.

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It's not just about the Age of Aquarius. It's about a viable "Age-indicator" which transits all of the Signs, and is now approaching tropical Aquarius. "Step by step"....interesting way to approach it. I've been having trouble figuring out the best type of format. Thanks!
Maybe with Merc in Libra I'll be able to really get a start on this project.
I hope you'll succeed in doing so.
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I hope you'll succeed in doing so.
I'm going to use Uk's "step by step" suggestion to help me organize the compexities and avoid going off on tangents.
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