USA Nov. 2020 Presidential Election, the Democrat Party Contenders

Trump wanted to be coronated as king. Instead, he's been corona-ted.

Barack finally endorsed Biden.

david starling said:

Barack finally endorsed Biden.

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I saw that and him....he seemed sincere enough, but I worry everyday that the Democrats are letting Trump's overtaking the airwaves without any kind of rebuttle from them. That can't be good., because most people are homebound hearing only Trump's lies and whining blaming the Democrats for everything except sliced bread.


Someone was saying ? on TV, they wondered IF the November elections would have to be put off until this Corona Virus is under control If that happened, djt would be thrilled, to escape the 2021 - Statute of Limitations 5 yrs. limitations in the New York courts.



And it might explain why his transits look so positive (along with his progr. Venus over his Jupiter trine)


But honestly, who has the power to put off a Presidential General Election to suit their purposes? Maybe POTUS. (says Wm.Barr)

david starling said:

Trump wanted to be coronated as king. Instead, he's been corona-ted.

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from Constellation of Words, regarding "Berenice"



The story of Berenice
The constellation, Coma Berenices, refers to a classical story concerning the hair of Berenice II, the wife of Ptolemy Soter III of Egypt. Berenice had beautiful long amber-colored hair. Ptolemy was away at war against the Assyrians, and Berenice was worried. She asked the royal oracle, Conon, what to do [his story here]. Conon advised the queen to offer her hair to Aphrodite for the safe return of her husband. After weeks of waiting and tension Ptolemy returned safe and sound. The nation rejoiced but when Berenice told Ptolemy about her promise to sacrifice her hair, Ptolemy was very upset because it was the crowning glory of his queen; and it had the admiration of the nation, and it gave inspiration to the poets. Nothing, however, would change Berenice's mind. She went to the temple where her beautiful locks were cut off and laid on the altar by the priests.
The next day when the king went to the temple to have a look at his wife's hair, he was furious to find the hair had been stolen. He summoned the priests and would have put them to death then and there had not the court astrologer Conon, intervened: "No, no, your majesty, do not blame the priests, it is not their fault, wait until it is dark and I will show you where your wife's hair is".
So when day turned into night the astronomer took the king to look at the night sky "Look! Dost thou not see the clustered curls of thy queen, too beautiful for a single temple to possess, placed there by the gods for all the world to see? Look! They glitter like a woven net, as golden as they were on Berenice's head".



And there, between Canes Venatici, Bootes, Leo and Virgo, twinkled a mass of very faint stars. The astronomer declared that Jupiter had descended from Heaven the night before to take the golden locks up to the heavens where they could be admired by the whole world, not only by one nation. The king was satisfied with this explanation and Berenice was delighted that Venus had so honored her. [The New Patterns in the Sky, Julius D.W. Staal 1988, p.149].








Julius Schiller asserted that the constellation represented the Flagellum Christi.
Thompson writes in his Glossary, p. 134, that

david starling said:

If Bernie supporters solidly support Biden, he has an excellent chance to replace Trump as President. Otherwise....

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I seriously doubt that they will, the greater majority of then anyways. I'm not.

...and as for Biden winning in Michigan, I'm convinced that is horses**t.
The fix was on , just like it was in 2016. There was a petition to have an investigation into the matter , which I signed, but Bernie since having dropped out of the race makes it a moot point, at best.

I figure that, no matter what, "THEY" are going to see to it that He never sits in the Oval Office, not in the Big Chair behind the Big Desk, anyways.
BERNIE SURELY FINALLY SAW THE LIGHT OR, SHOULD I SAY, THE DIMMING OF IT, AS THAT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE?

I figure this marks the end of the Democratic Party, once and for all...what will be left of it in four more years will likely just be a lot of "old timers" with their memories of better days.

Sad too, Thomas Jefferson's party coming to such an ignoble end.

Look for a Populist Party to rise from the ashes.... bout time too... in fact it's well past the time.


VOTE POPULIST IN 2024

btw... My room mate informed me this morning that the bailout bill, that passed and was signed by our "Ferless Leader, himself, included a provision, well buried in the bill, that will give, not $1200 dollars, but $1,000,000 to 47 thousand of the wealthiest citizens of the U.S.

Yeah, that's not a typo, that's 47 Billion dollars going to the top one and a half percent of wealth in the United States...

I haven't done the fact check on that but my room mate is not the kind that goes around making such statements if He hasn't done that himself.... not usually, anyways.

Anyone else heard anything about that?

piercethevale said:

btw... My room mate informed me this morning that the bailout bill, that passed and was signed by our "Ferless Leader, himself, included a provision, well buried in the bill, that will give, not $1200 dollars, but $1,000,000 to 47 thousand of the wealthiest citizens of the U.S.

Yeah, that's not a typo, that's 47 Billion dollars going to the top one and a half percent of wealth in the United States...

I haven't done the fact check on that but my room mate is not the kind that goes around making such statements if He hasn't done that himself.... not usually, anyways.

Anyone else heard anything about that?

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I heard they already ran out of money for the small businesses.

david starling said:

Trump wanted to be coronated as king. Instead, he's been corona-ted.

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LOL! good one. Is he using covid19 to install a dictatorship? Western Europe is becoming a militarized hyper-socialist multiplicity under lockdown and economic decline. Would this happen to the USA as well? I find interesting European societies (my father's French while I live in So CA US) have a more epic history than the US not accustomed to extreme disasters like the covid19 pandemic. France has a history of wars, occupations, plagues, depressions, terrorism, ethnic warfare, famines, dictatorships, corruption and theocracies a lot more than the US (we had the American revolution in the 1700s, the US civil war in the 1800s, the Great Depression and WW2 in the 1900s, and 9/11 in 2001). I feel being an American, I'm the least likely (among other nations) to have such an epic history of crises, tragedies and extreme disasters, it caught America off guard to have a pandemic we usually expect in an underdeveloped country.

CapAquaPis said:

I feel being an American, I'm the least likely (among other nations) to have such an epic history of crises, tragedies and extreme disasters, it caught America off guard to have a pandemic we usually expect in an underdeveloped country.

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And what an irony that at 750k confirmed cases and almost 40k that did not survive, America seems to be most underdeveloped in handling this pandemic. Sad really. However, given Europe and America (which mainly constitute the developed Western world) are having it the toughest during this pandemic, perhaps one of the messages of this pandemic is: time to get a grip on those egos and eat the humble pie, and stop associating certain things with only certain political geographies, which sort of divides the world in a condescending manner.

aquarius7000 said:

And what an irony that at 750k confirmed cases and almost 40k that did not survive, America seems to be most underdeveloped in handling this pandemic. Sad really. However, given Europe and America (which mainly constitute the developed Western world) are having it the toughest during this pandemic, perhaps one of the messages of this pandemic is: time to get a grip on those egos and eat the humble pie, and stop associating certain things with only certain political geographies, which sort of divides the world in a condescending manner.

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Not fair! You have to factor in the constant exposure in the U.S. to a President with a sickening personality. He just won't stop broadcasting his disgusting aura, or show any concern for anything except the economy regarding how it will affect his chances for reelection.

david starling said:

Not fair! You have to factor in the constant exposure in the U.S. to a President with a sickening personality. He just won't stop broadcasting his disgusting aura, or show any concern for anything except the economy regarding how it will affect his chances for reelection.

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Well then the CDC site needs to clearly highlight the risk of orange fever and develop a vaccine against it

In response to SARS 1 in Canada (2003) and the H1N1 swine flu in Mexico (2009) both have Chinese origins, the US developed a National Pandemic Response Team under the Obama administration in 2014 to combat a possible pandemic to ever strike the US modeled on Canada's and Mexico's. However, Trump fired them in 2018 and this made us more vulnerable to a pandemic than ever before...or the most than any other country, developing or not.

But, my state CA and other west coast ones like WA, OR, HI and AK always had a special pandemic plan, knowing China and East Asia has a tendency to have coronavirus-type pandemics develop there for decades. This is probably why CA managed to not be hard-hit than let's say NY state and the Northeast corridor. And geographically, WA state borders Canada and CA borders Mexico.

My county Riverside have 2,600 cases - second to Los Angeles, demography in Palm Springs where we have many senior citizens, HIV/AIDS patients, higher population density and children with respiratory diseases in farm areas. The SF Bay area was the month's American epicenter of covid19 a month ago, but there are like 1,000 total reported cases in Santa Clara county since San Jose is Nor Cal's largest city.

aquarius7000 said:

And what an irony that at 750k confirmed cases and almost 40k that did not survive, America seems to be most underdeveloped in handling this pandemic. Sad really. However, given Europe and America (which mainly constitute the developed Western world) are having it the toughest during this pandemic, perhaps one of the messages of this pandemic is: time to get a grip on those egos and eat the humble pie, and stop associating certain things with only certain political geographies, which sort of divides the world in a condescending manner.

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Compared to one case in Jan, a 1000 in end of Feb, 150k in end of Mar and now 750k (CDC and other sources place a range from 620k-780k) cases. The USA is a large country the size of continental Europe where there are now over a million cases. There are active cases, recoveries (dismissed from hospitals, but not home quarantines), deaths (again at hospitals, nursing homes and private homes) and estimated numbers who are asymptomatic carriers. The USA has shown lack of preparation, open information and a tendency to deny covid19. I'm not sure if China where the virus began was more affected than the USA.

CapAquaPis said:

Compared to one case in Jan, a 1000 in end of Feb, 150k in end of Mar and now 750k (CDC and other sources place a range from 620k-780k) cases. The USA is a large country the size of continental Europe where there are now over a million cases. There are active cases, recoveries (dismissed from hospitals, but not home quarantines), deaths (again at hospitals, nursing homes and private homes) and estimated numbers who are asymptomatic carriers. The USA has shown lack of preparation, open information and a tendency to deny covid19. I'm not sure if China where the virus began was more affected than the USA.

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Sorry, but that large country bit is illogical for me. I live here and am more than aware of the problems of large USA. Since China is a sore example, let us look at India- now that is huge compared to USA. We are comparing 1.3 billion with what a mere 332 mill. And over and above that the US is supposed to be wealthier, tech more advanced, much more space so population is more spread out, etc. and has simply failed to curtail this pandemic and that is the real truth of the matter regardless of how one tries to defend the US. Case closed.

david starling said:

Not fair! You have to factor in the constant exposure in the U.S. to a President with a sickening personality. He just won't stop broadcasting his disgusting aura, or show any concern for anything except the economy regarding how it will affect his chances for reelection.

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Other countries and their leaders are broadcasting what this man does in our country. The hypocrisy, the lack of help to his own people, etc.


Its rather embarrassing, but then again I recall flying for my very first trip to Egypt back in 2004, and sitting next to a young Egyptian man who was dual citizens of the U.S. going home to visit his parents in Alexandria.


I spent the entire 10 hours practically, flying over the ocean, apologizing for G.W.Bush and his fake war in Iraq. When we were back there in 2016, once again, I was apologizing for even having someone as a potential for a once great country like the U.S.A. with a nominee such as DJT. This was in the Fall, because my husband's birthday was October, and before the Presidential Elections.


When Britishers, visitors from Scotland who was our neighbor there, and even the Egyptian landlord asked us "how could the U.S.A. of all countries, have such a nominee?" We seriously, could not imagine it ourselves, and said, "Don't worry, he'll NEVER get in."


Boy did we underestimate people's stupidity in the USA then. I always use to tell my husband (a Libra Sun cj.Neptune cj. Venus in 11th house, with Scorpio Rising. "you aren't realistic enough, and you give people FAR too much credit "..... .........and this time we BOTH did.

leomoon said:

Other countries and their leaders are broadcasting what this man does in our country. The hypocrisy, the lack of help to his own people, etc.


Its rather embarrassing, but then again I recall flying for my very first trip to Egypt back in 2004, and sitting next to a young Egyptian man who was dual citizens of the U.S. going home to visit his parents in Alexandria.


I spent the entire 10 hours practically, flying over the ocean, apologizing for G.W.Bush and his fake war in Iraq. When we were back there in 2016, once again, I was apologizing for even having someone as a potential for a once great country like the U.S.A. with a nominee such as DJT. This was in the Fall, because my husband's birthday was October, and before the Presidential Elections.


When Britishers, visitors from Scotland who was our neighbor there, and even the Egyptian landlord asked us "how could the U.S.A. of all countries, have such a nominee?" We seriously, could not imagine it ourselves, and said, "Don't worry, he'll NEVER get in."


Boy did we underestimate people's stupidity in the USA then. I always use to tell my husband (a Libra Sun cj.Neptune cj. Venus in 11th house, with Scorpio Rising. "you aren't realistic enough, and you give people FAR too much credit "..... .........and this time we BOTH did.

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Never forget, the MAJORITY of the American people did NOT elect him. And, the mainstream media was saying that there was NO WAY he would become President, all the while giving him over a $Billion in free publicity.

david starling said:

Never forget, the MAJORITY of the American people did NOT elect him. And, the mainstream media was saying that there was NO WAY he would become President, all the while giving him over a $Billion in free publicity.

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You are correct of course, that damned, easy to buy off votes of the no longer needed backfiring for the Dems twice now, "Electoral College" as though we are still in the mid 1700s or something




After reassessing myself, I think what we may have misidentified in giving the people too much credit is the GREED inherent in this Capitalistic system, BUT even HRC worked hand in hand with Wall Street bankers and does Biden through lobbyists.





IF it were Bernie, I might understand logically, the "fear" but in 2016, it was HRC and (except for me, and perhaps a few others), I read the tea leaves correctly at least knowing people truly did hate her like they did President Obama. Sadly, many of my teenage year childhood age friends never grew up and are Trump people via hating Hillary and being (I suppose) racists at the same time. Truly sad to know this now. You don't picture people you were so close to turning out with totally opposite values concerning the larger collective. But then again, they never moved from the same old same old mentality nor neighborhood. They never bothered to travel outside of Maryland (they all say, "whats there outside of Crabs, Maryland and "miniature America?"....Well, how about a larger perspective?




Then: Late 1960s



1985 Reunion of "same old friends"



(me on far left) No pun intended!!

According to so many I've read in the Astrology field, most seem to think the planets favor Trump, but even though he does have some great Trines working in his favor with Jupiter and Venus both, perhaps this is only about his eventually "getting off" what he fears the most, which Wm. Barr may save him from countrywide, the personal lawsuits all waiting for the end of Trump's reign.
After all, today's Polls taken (WSJ, NBC, etc) have him losing to Joe Biden by about 8-10 points although that may be a bit wide for comfort considering the undercurrent and underhandedness that goes on we aren't privy to.





The question I have, is can Joe Biden pull this thing off, considering how he is not on TV everyday as Trump is, hogging up all the air time and taking full advantage right now, under the guise of CoronaVirus updates?



Biden by comparison reaching the people has been problematically, MIA.



On November 3rd, 2020:


Joe Biden also has Tr. Jupiter 21:28 Capricorn Trine to his MC 19:54 Virgo. Other then this, I see nothing big for him. Anyone else?



Is this enough this time around?



I use to have ALL the past 70 years worth of natal charts for Election Days for the General Elections, but somehow, my computer now shows only a "blank" document, after ALL that work!!!



I did however, save this much info from the past Elections from the news at that time- But in all honestly, both 2008 and 2012, were kind of slam dunk and easy calls: (Will they also have another get together this year considering the Corona Virus?









"At UAC in 2008 a similar panel took place, and the astrologers on it were unanimous in predicting that Obama would win the election. As a result of that precedent, expectations were high for this panel. The panelists included:"

• [FONT=&quot]Gary Christian[/FONT], representing Uranian astrology and Cosmobiology.
• [FONT=&quot]Edith Hathaway[/FONT], representing Indian or Vedic astrology.
• [FONT=&quot]Nina Gryphon[/FONT], representing Medieval and Renaissance astrology.
• [FONT=&quot]Claude Weiss[/FONT], representing Modern western astrology.
• [FONT=&quot]Chris Brennan[/FONT], representing Hellenistic astrology, on behalf of the writers of the Political Astrology Blog.

In the end, the five panelists were unanimous in predicting that Obama would win the 2012 election.
For more detailed coverage of what happened on the panel, including a video recording of most of it, see the UAC 2012 presidential panel article on the Political Astrology Blog.
The presidential panel got a decent amount of media coverage once it was over, and in fact most of the media coverage earlier in the week before the panel even took place was largely focused on the election. Here are the two main articles that were published once the panel was over and then widely circulated by the media:

• [FONT=&quot]Reuters:[/FONT] Astrologers say celestial charts favor Obama over Romney
• [FONT=&quot]USA Today:[/FONT] Panel of astrologers predicts Obama victory

· [FONT=&quot]Most of the panelists placed a high degree of certainty on their forecast, but a few pointed to potential difficulties Obama may face after his predicted re-election.[/FONT]

How did the panelists do in 2016?

Listen....try comparing the U.S.of A. Chart with Trump's for the Election. Because if Trump wins, it's over for the U.S.A.