Do Scorpio placements muddle religious beliefs?

Rydar

Active member
How is the sexuality of a placement like Scorpio Venus or Mars displayed when the person holding it is chaste for religious reasons?
 

Lin

Well-known member
ALL energy can be used in non-sexual ways, including Pluto and Mars.

Pluto (Scorpio) represents many avenues of our life experience besides sex.

Mars (Aries) represents many avenues of life experience besides aggression, war and dominance sexually.

Venus represents values, desires, beauty, balance, pairing, materialism, money....you get the point.

We can always channel energy into non-sexual ways. (if we so choose.)

LIN
 
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waybread

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Are you familiar with the Astrodienst Astro-DataBank? It is an archive of thousands of charts. If you search for people with religious vocations, I think you'd find a lot of Scorpio suns and chart emphases. A really famous one was Billy Sunday (1863-1935) who popularized a fire-and-brimstone style of evangelical preaching. Also in his mold was Billy Graham (b. 1918) who popularized preaching via radio and television.

Sex is only one of the many ways in which Scorpio, Venus, or Mars can express itself. Just for example, similar to what Lin noted-- Venus rules the fine arts and Mars rules athletes.

I am not sure what is the specific situation that interests you, but some people take a lifetime vow of chastity, such as Catholics in holy orders. For others, it is chastity until marriage; or simply until the Right One comes along. For the latter two, their sexuality can manifest at the time that is meaningful to them.
 

Lin

Well-known member
Scorpio AND the 8th house have strong dynamics of proselytizing. That is a big part of "preaching."
But sex AND values (whether religious or material) are both powerful components of Scorpio and the 8th house.
So even if a religious zealot has no Scorpio planets or nodes, it would be well to look at the 8th house for clues re this subject.
LIN
 

Osamenor

Staff member
Celibacy is actually a way to use sexuality, if approached right. The original purpose of religious vows of celibacy was to channel sexual energy into spirituality, not repress it. Also to prevent the pursuit of sexual relationships or conquests, and the maintenance of them, from interfering with your focus on spiritual matters and study.

There was a nun who, when asked if she regretted not having sex, replied scornfully, "I'm seeing the world from an elephant's back, and you ask if regret not riding a donkey?"

There are plenty of writings by religious celibates that are deeply sexual, and deeply spiritual and mystical, too. Teresa of Avila, for instance.

All of that fits very well with Scorpio energy.

Edited to add: Assuming that is, that by "chaste" you mean celibate. Chaste can also mean avoiding non-marital sex but allowing sex within marriage, and lots of people do that for religious reasons. In that case, if they're married, they have an acceptable outlet. If they're not married, then it becomes celibacy, so see above.
 
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