Kannon
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Re: Romney next US President?
A lot of this discussion has been qualified with "if that 8:02 am birth time is correct", which is another way of saying if that chart is correct. It is not. The 8:02 am time of record is probably pretty accurate, but as I've said many times, this does not guarantee an accurate chart.
Hillary Clinton's somewhat rounded facial outline left open the possibility of an Asc in a cardinal sign, Libra. If she were a double Scorpio with Sun near her Asc her face would have an unquestioned squarish outline pointing directly to an Asc in a fixed sign and near a planet of fixity.
I went about an extensive effort at validating Hillary Clinton's chart over a few years time, completing it a few months ago. I'm one of very few rectifiers that uses fixed Chart Validation Standards for all such charts. The chart I use for her has 27 Libra at the Asc. I used the exact coordinates for Edgewater hospital where she was born and checked this chart against Bill's, her daughter's, and used 8 events to test it. That is a lower number than I'd usually use, but it was enough for an effective differential.
Clearly Romney is not and was not in play again for 2016. He was never liked by either the GOP establishment or the mainstream. He merely survived a 2012 primary characterized by a divisive plurality on the right that left the door wide open for him. Take a look at Romney's transits for when he bowed out on January 30, 2015:
Saturn 18S54 declination was parallel natal Moon listed at 18S57, and natal Jupiter 18S31. Saturn even now (18S11) remains in range of these, and returns to the declination spot of these two natal planets this October. IF you use the standard 1 Gemini chart for him, transiting Saturn was also parallel the MC of that chart. These alone should be enough to advise astrologers to consult the declinations carefully before making predictions or assessing the viability of a candidate's chart (or before doing any interpretation for anyone for that matter).
Pluto was 20S35 on the day he opted out of the 2016 race and that was contra-parallel natal Saturn at 20N16.
Now that he has shut the door, it simply doesn't matter what his transits look like for the primaries or convention in 2016, because he was never liked in the first place and the GOP can't stand people who flip-flop. Romney is better cut out for big business and for occasional public services in a more limited spectrum in which his stiffness and public image don't work against him as in national politics.
A lot of this discussion has been qualified with "if that 8:02 am birth time is correct", which is another way of saying if that chart is correct. It is not. The 8:02 am time of record is probably pretty accurate, but as I've said many times, this does not guarantee an accurate chart.
Hillary Clinton's somewhat rounded facial outline left open the possibility of an Asc in a cardinal sign, Libra. If she were a double Scorpio with Sun near her Asc her face would have an unquestioned squarish outline pointing directly to an Asc in a fixed sign and near a planet of fixity.
I went about an extensive effort at validating Hillary Clinton's chart over a few years time, completing it a few months ago. I'm one of very few rectifiers that uses fixed Chart Validation Standards for all such charts. The chart I use for her has 27 Libra at the Asc. I used the exact coordinates for Edgewater hospital where she was born and checked this chart against Bill's, her daughter's, and used 8 events to test it. That is a lower number than I'd usually use, but it was enough for an effective differential.
Clearly Romney is not and was not in play again for 2016. He was never liked by either the GOP establishment or the mainstream. He merely survived a 2012 primary characterized by a divisive plurality on the right that left the door wide open for him. Take a look at Romney's transits for when he bowed out on January 30, 2015:
Saturn 18S54 declination was parallel natal Moon listed at 18S57, and natal Jupiter 18S31. Saturn even now (18S11) remains in range of these, and returns to the declination spot of these two natal planets this October. IF you use the standard 1 Gemini chart for him, transiting Saturn was also parallel the MC of that chart. These alone should be enough to advise astrologers to consult the declinations carefully before making predictions or assessing the viability of a candidate's chart (or before doing any interpretation for anyone for that matter).
Pluto was 20S35 on the day he opted out of the 2016 race and that was contra-parallel natal Saturn at 20N16.
Now that he has shut the door, it simply doesn't matter what his transits look like for the primaries or convention in 2016, because he was never liked in the first place and the GOP can't stand people who flip-flop. Romney is better cut out for big business and for occasional public services in a more limited spectrum in which his stiffness and public image don't work against him as in national politics.