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Unread 09-06-2019, 07:26 AM
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ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

https://imgur.com/a/XZCBtF0

Here is my chart
I asked if it was possible for my bf and I to get back together when he returns next week
Iím Saturn in Cap trining him, Sun in Virgo, so I guess thatís a yes, however since Iím retrograde I may eventually change my mind and leave him again when Saturn goes direct..right?

Iíve never seen a horary chart before where every single planet is aspected.. does that in itself have some meaning or significance to the situation?

I would love if a more experienced person could please glance at my chart and let me know what you think!

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Unread 09-06-2019, 02:25 PM
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

There is no chart on the link, can you please check it?
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Unread 09-06-2019, 03:30 PM
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There is no chart on the link, can you please check it?
Oh crazy I donít know what I did there.. I think this should work
https://imgur.com/K7cirVw
Thank you

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Unread 09-06-2019, 04:01 PM
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

I use the outer planets, not everyone does, but I do.
If you insert Neptune, pluto, Uranus you might get a very different picture.
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I use the outer planets, not everyone does, but I do.
If you insert Neptune, pluto, Uranus you might get a very different picture.
https://imgur.com/JDHepim

Ok here is the chart with a bit more of everything

I would interpret it that the hard aspects between Neptune, Moon and the Sun and his friends shows me being misguided; having strong emotional responses to the people that were around him, thinking they were threats but actually theyíre all combust so they donít have real relationships to him

The trine between me, him and Uranus in 4 might show itís on again and then it will be off again

Would that be accurate or no??

It takes away my Ďeverything is aspectedí theory though if I only leave major aspects
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

And thank you for inserting the south node as well, where you can see it is exactly conjunct you, Saturn, in the 12th, showing you attached to old habits and behaviour patterns from the past.
Psyche retrograde interestingly enough is conjunct you, the ascendent. Her story is an interesting one, and reconfirms the Saturn/south node position relating to you.
She is square Uranus in the 4th, sparking unexpectedly and
You can google it, here are some useful links...

http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebD...Asteroids.html

And this one explains the eros/psyche connection...

http://www.falconastrology.com/mythology_asteroid.htm

In this chart Eros is at the midpoint between Venus and pluto, increasing the theme of eroticism.

The 8th house is, among other things, the house of sex and this is where the stellium lies, and this is where the ruler of the 7th, sun, lies.

So, yes, sun moves towards a trine with Saturn retrograde moving towards the trine, from the 8th and 12th houses respectively.

Moon approaches the conjunction with Jupiter but first enters the T-square with mercury and Neptune, creating infatuation and illusion and misunderstanding.
You apparently have a lot of past baggage to handle in this relationship, things to resolve between you if you are looking for a long term relationship.
Uranus in the 4th of end of the matters makes the outcome unpredictable and it is sparked off by the psyche energy.
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Unread 09-07-2019, 07:13 AM
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And thank you for inserting the south node as well, where you can see it is exactly conjunct you, Saturn, in the 12th, showing you attached to old habits and behaviour patterns from the past.
Psyche retrograde interestingly enough is conjunct you, the ascendent. Her story is an interesting one, and reconfirms the Saturn/south node position relating to you.
She is square Uranus in the 4th, sparking unexpectedly and
You can google it, here are some useful links...

http://www.mysticmarguerite.com/WebD...Asteroids.html

And this one explains the eros/psyche connection...

http://www.falconastrology.com/mythology_asteroid.htm

In this chart Eros is at the midpoint between Venus and pluto, increasing the theme of eroticism.

The 8th house is, among other things, the house of sex and this is where the stellium lies, and this is where the ruler of the 7th, sun, lies.

So, yes, sun moves towards a trine with Saturn retrograde moving towards the trine, from the 8th and 12th houses respectively.

Moon approaches the conjunction with Jupiter but first enters the T-square with mercury and Neptune, creating infatuation and illusion and misunderstanding.
You apparently have a lot of past baggage to handle in this relationship, things to resolve between you if you are looking for a long term relationship.
Uranus in the 4th of end of the matters makes the outcome unpredictable and it is sparked off by the psyche energy.
This is so much info about the asteroids that Iíve been wanting, thank you ElanaJ

I watched some videos about the pair as well and I wonder, if Iím Psyche.. does that mean Iím the one who has ruined the relationship after all, by not trusting him when I should have..? However Saturn is so well-positioned in the 12th and in Cap so it seems like Iím doing something right.. maybe because in the meantime Iíve been doing past life therapy and working on reducing my Ďyangí in this scenario (12th house.. becoming more receptive)

I think Uranus trining us both can possibly also be alluding to us both being bi.. and realising itís more important than we realised. I think the fact that he has only recently admitted this to himself might have been a source of inner conflict.. I asked him to take some time to explore it while we had some time apart but I donít know if he has or not. Iíve taken the opportunity myself though

I feel like thereís so much info in this chart, and it shows a lot of physical attraction, but I guess it doesnít show great prospects for long term?

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Unread 09-07-2019, 10:37 AM
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

"if I’m Psyche"
No, sorry, you are not Psyche. Psyche is present like the other planets, only it is an asteroid, and it exerts its influence like the others. It is one energy that interacts with the other energies in the chart.

"it doesn’t show great prospects for long term?"
Exactly.

"Uranus trining is both"
This isn't happening, it is way past.
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Unread 09-07-2019, 11:52 AM
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"if Iím Psyche"
No, sorry, you are not Psyche. Psyche is present like the other planets, only it is an asteroid, and it exerts its influence like the others. It is one energy that interacts with the other energies in the chart.

"it doesnít show great prospects for long term?"
Exactly.

"Uranus trining is both"
This isn't happening, it is way past.
Ok thanks
Can you please tell me.. what am I not understanding, because I see a traditional Ďyesí answer (positive aspect between two signifiers), so why the Ďno chanceí outcome because of the grand trine with Uranus? Does the chart give other clues that I donít comprehend?

Iím getting the same message from the iching but I donít understand why. It just keeps saying thereís something I donít know yet and not to contact him.. hinting at sinister forces and deception., I guess I need to cast another chart to answer that but if anyone can point me in a vague direction it would be extremely valuable info
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Unread 09-07-2019, 02:07 PM
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

"So, yes, sun moves towards a trine with Saturn retrograde moving towards the trine, from the 8th and 12th houses respectively."

This is the short answer.

But there is a lot more in my reply, please read it.
Because Saturn is in the 12th of restrictions, retrograde and conjunct south node.

The relationship is not a positive one for you. The rest of my reply explains why. In effect it is the "be careful what you ask for, you may just get it".


" ... the grand trine with Uranus? "
There is no grand trine with Uranus, Uranus is out of orb except with Psyche.
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Unread 09-07-2019, 02:59 PM
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"So, yes, sun moves towards a trine with Saturn retrograde moving towards the trine, from the 8th and 12th houses respectively."

This is the short answer.

But there is a lot more in my reply, please read it.
Because Saturn is in the 12th of restrictions, retrograde and conjunct south node.

The relationship is not a positive one for you. The rest of my reply explains why. In effect it is the "be careful what you ask for, you may just get it".


" ... the grand trine with Uranus? "
There is no grand trine with Uranus, Uranus is out of orb except with Psyche.
I appreciate you giving me clues ElenaJ and prompting me to do my own research, Iím trying to, itís just that itís very cryptic.. and while you know what youíre hinting at, I donít know what I donít know, so I canít necessarily read between the lines
I certainly read and reread your answer many times donít get me wrong, I just feel kinda dumb that Iím not picking up what youíre putting down
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Unread 09-07-2019, 03:06 PM
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Re: ALL planets aspected.. what does it mean?

I'm not being cryptic, but obviously the chart shows tendencies not specifics.
The answer is, yes about getting together, but be careful, it won't be good for you. Is that more clear?
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Unread 09-07-2019, 03:17 PM
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I'm not being cryptic, but obviously the chart shows tendencies not specifics.
The answer is, yes about getting together, but be careful, it won't be good for you. Is that more clear?
Yes, it is, thanks. But...... what is it that wonít be good.. does he have secrets? Or the relationship has no opportunity..? Or because Iím just in my house of ďself undoingĒ, or he just wants 8th house sex? I mean is there a clue about precisely why there could be no positive growth? Iím trying to mine some logic from this because if I had something more tangible to work with I feel like I would be in a better position to distance myself and put head over heart
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