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Unread 11-20-2018, 05:10 AM
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Those who believe an Astrological Planet must be visible without a telescope say "no", even though Neptune is considered a full-fledged Planet by astronomers. Whereas, those who don't require that an Astrological Planet be visible without a telescope say "yes".

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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

Sometimes logic turns against itself and twist around in a circle that explodes into a volcano that burns up villages.

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Sometimes logic turns against itself and twist around in a circle that explodes into a volcano that burns up villages.

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Yes and no. Astrological thinking is star-logic that twists around in a circle; and, it sometimes turns against itself. Not seeing how it causes volcanoes though.
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Yes and no. Astrological thinking is star-logic that twists around in a circle; and, it sometimes turns against itself. Not seeing how it causes volcanoes though.
You are making a lots of claims here that I do not believe are anchored in logic.

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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

It is a planet, but it is too far to be visible from Earth.
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It is a planet, but it is too far to be visible from Earth.
So does it affect your astrology chart in your opinion?

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So does it affect your astrology chart in your opinion?

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You gotta remember that I have not followed your opinion on these subjects to closely even though I now vaguely remember some of the stuff. I don't want to bite in the sour apple.

In my opinion I have seen neptune validate countable charts through transits to major life events so it clearly provided value in those specific instances.

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Astrologers don't necessarily accept Modern astronomers' definitions of what's a "planet" and what's not. Neptune is classified as a planet by astronomers, but not as an ASTROLOGICAL planet by many Traditional (including Vedic) astrologers. Conversely, most Modern astronomers have reclassified Pluto as a "dwarf-planet" astronomically-speaking, because it hasn't "cleared its orbit", but all Modern astrologers still use it as a full-fledged Astrological planet.

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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

David, are you sufficiently bored just now that you wish to start up yet another mod/trad debate?

Surely you've worked out the answer to this one to your own satisfaction.
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David, are you sufficiently bored just now that you wish to start up yet another mod/trad debate?

Surely you've worked out the answer to this one to your own satisfaction.
It's a real surprise to many new students of Astrology that there are those who don't use ANY of the outermost planets. They can be highly critical of this, especially because one of their outermost astrological planets, Pluto, has become so important to the younger Mods. Just pointing out that Mods are ALSO ignoring astronomers by continuing to consider it a true planet for astrological purposes.

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Just for the record, I'm using Pluto myself, as Native-ruler of Scorpio. IMO it's in the right place in the solar system, and is moving at the right speed. Even has a closer approach to the Sun than Neptune.

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David, are you sufficiently bored just now that you wish to start up yet another mod/trad debate?

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Depends on the astrologer. I'm not going to criticize anyone for not using Neptune in a Chart, although I admit that I have, in the past.
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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

Neptune is an important piece of the puzzle in astrology when all the planets are concerned. Uranus/Neptune conjunctions places a person more likely to be LGBTQ, and Uranus is the "q" planet. Last year (2017 Neptune enters Aries, Uranus enters Taurus, close enough) and 25 years ago (May-Jul 1993 in Capricorn) was when they were in exact conjunction.
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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

Is ceres an astrological asteroid? durrrrr
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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

Neptune is called a higher octave of Venus, while the other outer planet Uranus is a higher octave of Mercury, and Pluto is the higher octave of Mars. It's said Ceres is the higher octave of the moon, but this isn't official in all of astrology. Neptune is said to be the planet of the media, celebrities and entertainment, esp. it's sign it rules of Pisces and for some reason, a hint of Leo in their chart.
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Is ceres an astrological asteroid? durrrrr
Are you using Ceres in interpreting Charts?
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Neptune is called a higher octave of Venus, while the other outer planet Uranus is a higher octave of Mercury, and Pluto is the higher octave of Mars. It's said Ceres is the higher octave of the moon, but this isn't official in all of astrology. Neptune is said to be the planet of the media, celebrities and entertainment, esp. it's sign it rules of Pisces and for some reason, a hint of Leo in their chart.
I use Neptune as a "generational" indicator, and as one that describes the "eras", such as the "The Roaring 20s" for Neptune in Leo.
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Re: Is Neptune an Astrological Planet?

The octaves of the planets:
* Sun (higher) - Saturn (lower): light, dark and deity.
* Moon (higher) - ceres (lower) : femininity, fertility and family.
* Mercury (higher) - Uranus (lower): science, oddity and innovation.
* Venus (higher) - Neptune (lower): beauty, celebrity and style.
* Mars (higher) - Pluto (lower): war, hatred and death.
* Jupiter (higher) - Eris (lower): power, business and fortune.
* Lilith (higher) - Chiron (lower): medical, healing and nurture.
* Cruithne (higher) - Sedna (lower): mysticism, psyche and spirituality.

Note Cruithne is one of 3 Earth's natural satellites, but like Lilith, they are not visible to the naked eye, unlike the Moon...obviously we're able to view that.
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It is a planet, but it is too far to be visible from Earth.
telescope necessary
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Hehehehehe

It is an astrological entity. It fits well as the ruler of Pisces.

It needs a meme from JupiterAsc before it is real though.😄
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I come from 2039.

Scientists have discovered 8 more planets like Planet X and Neptune and expect many more, so the IAU has decided to remove all of them from the list of planets and return to the seven traditional planets model (requiring naked eye observation) so that astronomy is not too hard for kids in school.
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Once we have a planet representing each sign of the zodiac, are we fulfilled or do we look for more?
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I've noticed that the attitude of materialistic scientists, is: IF, in the wildest stretch of their (very limited) imaginations, they were to irrationally indulge in astrology themselves, they would be Constellationalists with Sign-boundaries to fit the unequal lengths of the zodiacal constellations.

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I've noticed that the attitude of materialistic scientists, is: IF, in the wildest stretch of their (very limited) imaginations, they were to irrationally indulge in astrology themselves, they would be Constellationalists with Sign-boundaries to fit the unequal lengths of the zodiacal constellations.
Notice how dumb they are to adopt the inferior type of zodiac.
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Once we have a planet representing each sign of the zodiac, are we fulfilled or do we look for more?
No, you start filling the exaltations.
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