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Unread 01-14-2020, 03:24 AM
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Both Judaism and Islam allow the breaking of many commandments to save a life (exceptions are those concerning idolatry, adultery and murder). Pikuach nefesh. Jesus ran into arguments with the pharisees whether it is eligible to heal on the Sabbath, which extends the same principle to health as well.
You seem to respect theology more than kindness which concerns me.

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You seem to respect theology more than kindness which concerns me.
I beg your pardon?
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I beg your pardon?
Basically, killing animals is murder but in general, morals should come from within and not be justified by theology. I think itís a waste of intellect to be give your authority away to words written 1000s of years ago when a kind heart should be the lamp that guides you.
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Unread 01-14-2020, 03:54 AM
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Basically, killing animals is murder but in general, morals should come from within and not be justified by theology. I think itís a waste of intellect to be give your authority away to words written 1000s of years ago when a kind heart should be the lamp that guides you.
The Bible gives an explanation for the origins of eating meat. Everyone has a heart, but not everyone has morals. The first is not trustworthy and is easily deceived, the word (which is my lamp Psalm 119:105) says.
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The Bible gives an explanation for the origins of eating meat. Everyone has a heart, but not everyone has morals. The first is not trustworthy and is easily deceived, the word (which is my lamp Psalm 119:105) says.
The origins of eating meat is survival which is understandable, nowadays itís not necessary and is murder and the hidden slave trade. Everyone does have a heart but what I find confusing is meat eaters have a disconnect between their dislike of cruelty but their choice to eat meat. Itís propaganda which I guess a person who follows scripture like itís law already has a tendency to do. Real intelligence should have the confidence to have independence of thought, so I see following theology as a kind of self-imposed slavery.
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I read that Zoroastrians believed that a man who didn't eat meat wasn't a "real man".

The Cain and Abel story suggests that God favored the animal sacrifice offering of Abel, who raised livestock, over the plant sacrifice of Cain, who tilled the fields.

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I read that Zoroastrians believed that a man who didn't eat meat wasn't a "real man".

The Cain and Abel story suggests that God favored the animal sacrifice offering of Abel, who raised livestock, over the plant sacrifice of Cain, who tilled the fields.
In the 1000 year kingdom we shall be vegetarian, but there shall be daily and individual animal sacrifices in the Third Temple. Only the poor were allowed non-animal sacrifices in the previous two which won't be an issue next time around. The wages of sin is death and sacrifice motivates repentance. The ultimate sacrifice (which can clean all sin unlike the animal one) of the Messiah has saved millions of born again Christians by making them repent and change their lives. There is only life after the 1000 years, including for all animals.

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In the 1000 year kingdom we shall be vegetarian, but there shall be daily and individual animal sacrifices in the Third Temple. Only the poor were allowed non-animal sacrifices in the previous two which won't be an issue next time around. The wages of sin is death and sacrifice motivates repentance. The ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah has saved millions of born again Christians by making them repent and change their lives. There is only life after the 1000 years, including for all animals.
"The lion shall lay down with the lamb...." -{Isaiah 11:6}
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"The lion shall lay down with the lamb...." -{Isaiah 11:6}
Yes, all animals will also be vegetarian, but the prophets have mentioned sacrifices from all the nations.
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Yes, all animals will also be vegetarian, but the prophets have mentioned sacrifices from all the nations.
Sacrificing the urge to kill would be a prerequisite.
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Unread 01-14-2020, 10:07 AM
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Sacrificing the urge to kill would be a prerequisite.
When Jesus returns and brings healing to the nations, God himself will bless the ground, even as he cursed it with thorns and thistles, because of Adam and later even more after the flood.
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When Jesus returns and brings healing to the nations, God himself will bless the ground, even as he cursed it with thorns and thistles, because of Adam and later even more after the flood.
When is this supposed to happen?
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When is this supposed to happen?
This is bound to happen very soon.

A few hundred years at max according to most estimations.

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This is bound to happen very soon.

A few hundred years at max according to most estimations.
Sounds like most of the siderealists regarding the sidereal Age of Aquarius.
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Seems like a lot of Evangelical preachers are expecting it much sooner.
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Interesting that Aquarius is the Sign ruled by an indicator named for the personification of the Heavens.
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Seems like a lot of Evangelical preachers are expecting it much sooner.
They are expecting the Rapture, which according to them would occur before the tribulation, really contradicting 2 Thessalonians 2. It is not going to happen tomorrow or in the next 7 years, that is for certain.
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Sounds like most of the siderealists regarding the sidereal Age of Aquarius.
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Unread 01-14-2020, 11:39 AM
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Interesting that Aquarius is the Sign ruled by an indicator named for the personification of the Heavens.
The constellations have nothing to do with the rulership of Saturn over the wintry signs.
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Unread 01-14-2020, 12:57 PM
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The constellations have nothing to do with the rulership of Saturn over the wintry signs.
I don't employ as much physicality as you do, for Sign-rulership. And, I also don't consider the constellations to be Sign-rulers. It's a different branch of the Philosophy of Astrology. Ouranos/Urania were male and female personifications of the Heavens, and the astrologically proper names for the celestial Longitudinal-point of the planet represented by the symbol , which is the astrological-indicator that rules Aquarius.
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What happens to the Hindus, Budhists, and Muslims? And, those of the very ancient indigenous religious beliefs?
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Unread 01-14-2020, 01:28 PM
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What happens to the Hindus, Budhists, and Muslims? And, those of the very ancient indigenous religious beliefs?
See Romans 1-2. Muslims are for the most part not part of that group though, God did not allow that kind of deception to occur.

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Don't you like how JA rounds up half a dozen threads every day in such a short period of time?
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Unread 01-14-2020, 06:00 PM
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Don't you like how JA rounds up half a dozen threads every day in such a short period of time?
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