hello to all, so i have come here for some help, because i've read many articles on saturn return for myself and over and over again i can't find answers to what's going on with me...and since i want to get this first saturn return right so that i don't have to suffer through the second one, here is my post ;-)
i'm male born july 21st, 1980 at 10.31pm in sao paulo brasil, my map is attached
this places my saturn in virgo in the 6th at some 23 degrees, which means i had my saturn return september 2nd through 9th this year...it also means that my saturn return has to do with how i work, how i organize myself and also issues with health...however, these are things that to me seem to be taken care of, as i have come dealing with them with ease...however, it seems to me that my saturn return has affected me more in the sense of relationships than anything else...
beginning in september 2007 (as i was to learn, when saturn entered virgo), i went into a long-distance relationship with a person that i did not trust and whom i also let do a lot of bad things to me...let's say it was a relationship you could put on any jerry springer show and it would be one of the most watched shows...a lot of psychological terrorism, a lot of physical threats and abuse (from her part) and neverending fights, also with neglect on her part....that really made me question what was reality...this came to an end and i came to my senses again...
then in may this year i went into another relationship with someone that had an ongoing 4 yr relationship, just as i was about to go away for three months...i told her to take this time off, to be apart from each other so she could figure out what she wanted and i could just take it easy, considering my past relationship...it turned out that we remained together because our connection is/was very strong...almost as though we were true soulmates...her map is attached as well...
throughout the summer she wasn't able to satisfy my needs because of what she was going through with her bfriend and the relationships started to remind me more and more of my previous one (in terms of neglect and of things she would tell me)...i started dreaming with my previous girlfriend...and my anxiety levels went through the roof...and as we came to be together again on september 2nd 2009, she broek up with her boyfriend...and as i went into my return that same day, i was not able to giver her the security needed, which made her still keep in touch with her bfriend in a way that i would not have liked her too (also like the previous girlfriend)
anyway, to cut the long story short, since the return i have gone through a variety of sensations, from having to excuse myself from my activities to go vomit, to thinking i was schizophrenic, to having double personalities to having anxiety and panic attacks...and what it left me with is a completely split feeling with regards to this person...sometimes i feel she is the love of my life, the other time i feel she is nothing to me....and now i have a constant feeling of depersonalization, that nothing i'm living is real, loosing sense of time, space, etc...and at the same time i feel i need to get away from her, i simply cannot bring myself to it...
can anyone help me understand all of this? because saturn return is through and i think i have come to terms with what virgo and 6th house implies (opportunities are coming up and no organization or health issues), but i am having these relationship issues that i simply cannot explain...
any help you guys can give me will be deeply appreciated....and sorry for the long post
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i'm male born july 21st, 1980 at 10.31pm in sao paulo brasil, my map is attached
this places my saturn in virgo in the 6th at some 23 degrees, which means i had my saturn return september 2nd through 9th this year...it also means that my saturn return has to do with how i work, how i organize myself and also issues with health...however, these are things that to me seem to be taken care of, as i have come dealing with them with ease...however, it seems to me that my saturn return has affected me more in the sense of relationships than anything else...
beginning in september 2007 (as i was to learn, when saturn entered virgo), i went into a long-distance relationship with a person that i did not trust and whom i also let do a lot of bad things to me...let's say it was a relationship you could put on any jerry springer show and it would be one of the most watched shows...a lot of psychological terrorism, a lot of physical threats and abuse (from her part) and neverending fights, also with neglect on her part....that really made me question what was reality...this came to an end and i came to my senses again...
then in may this year i went into another relationship with someone that had an ongoing 4 yr relationship, just as i was about to go away for three months...i told her to take this time off, to be apart from each other so she could figure out what she wanted and i could just take it easy, considering my past relationship...it turned out that we remained together because our connection is/was very strong...almost as though we were true soulmates...her map is attached as well...
throughout the summer she wasn't able to satisfy my needs because of what she was going through with her bfriend and the relationships started to remind me more and more of my previous one (in terms of neglect and of things she would tell me)...i started dreaming with my previous girlfriend...and my anxiety levels went through the roof...and as we came to be together again on september 2nd 2009, she broek up with her boyfriend...and as i went into my return that same day, i was not able to giver her the security needed, which made her still keep in touch with her bfriend in a way that i would not have liked her too (also like the previous girlfriend)
anyway, to cut the long story short, since the return i have gone through a variety of sensations, from having to excuse myself from my activities to go vomit, to thinking i was schizophrenic, to having double personalities to having anxiety and panic attacks...and what it left me with is a completely split feeling with regards to this person...sometimes i feel she is the love of my life, the other time i feel she is nothing to me....and now i have a constant feeling of depersonalization, that nothing i'm living is real, loosing sense of time, space, etc...and at the same time i feel i need to get away from her, i simply cannot bring myself to it...
can anyone help me understand all of this? because saturn return is through and i think i have come to terms with what virgo and 6th house implies (opportunities are coming up and no organization or health issues), but i am having these relationship issues that i simply cannot explain...
any help you guys can give me will be deeply appreciated....and sorry for the long post
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