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david starling
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Unfortunately, for this article, I'm "white, straight, middle-class, cis gender( not sure what this is!), able-bodied women.", so she isn't interested in me.
I prefer to be all-inclusive, all women.
conspiracy theorist
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This continuous political feuding surrounding the Trump saga in particular reminds me of this video reviewing the philosophy of the TV show Billions. Strange leap I know.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THNQE7fTMWM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THNQE7fTMWM
david starling
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Please don't use the term "cis" in this context. It really doesn't apply.
Those who psychologically accept their birth gender should be called "progender", if such labeling is absolutely necessary.
"Progender" is the appropriate counterpart to "transgender", the label for one whose birth gender and psychological gender don't match up.
I also prefer to be addressed by the terms "he, his, and him".
I'm NOT "they, or "it". Or, that weird made up pronoun I can't even remember at the moment.
Formally addressed, I prefer "mister", and Mr. when it's written.
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David, I have no clue what it even means, the journalist in the article wrote it.
So tell me, what is CIS?
conspiracy theorist
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Chicken and eggs make for a good meal, so that must count for something right?
I've given up on you guys, so went to wikipedia.
"A cisgender person is one whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was identified as female at birth is a cisgender woman. The word cisgender is the antonym of transgender. Related terms include cissexism and cisnormativity"
"A cisgender person is one whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. For example, someone who identifies as a woman and was identified as female at birth is a cisgender woman. The word cisgender is the antonym of transgender. Related terms include cissexism and cisnormativity"
david starling
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That's not the real definition. It's from organic chemistry:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cis-trans_isomerism
david starling
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"Trans" is easily recognizable, since it's used as a prefix in ordinary words like "transcontinental" and "transportation".
"Moving across" is the meaning in that context .
Someone, or some group, decided to use terminology from organic chemistry to describe a psychological condition previously described as "gender dysphoria", which means "dissatisfaction" with one's birth gender.
Applying "cis" and "trans" to gender identity is a new and sociological definition.
david starling
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The psychologists don't know, but it's apparently extremely debilitating and can lead to suicide. Really glad I don't have it, and my sympathies to anyone who does, if it's a really bad problem.
If someone identifies with the gender they are born with, it's a problem?
david starling
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No, it's those who can't identity with it who have a problem.
The pharmaceutical, psychiatric, and surgical industries are making a lot of money off of their plight.
Oddity
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There are a few things here. Sex assigned at birth. Do you really believe sex is assigned and not obvious? Apparently these loons do.
Cis was invented as a nasty little slur against normal people. Because if there's cis and trans and gay, they're all 'lifestyle choices'. Even though humans are a sexually dimorphic species, and you need a man and a woman to make a child, so 'cis' really isn't any kind of special category.
david starling
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Identifying with the gender that you were born with is aptly described as being a psychologically "progender" person (approving of your physical birth gender).
Not identifying with it is aptly described as being a psychologically "transgender" person (feeling that it's necessary to move across to the other gender than the one you were physically born with).
If we have to label it, "progender" and "transgender" work for me.
And, since the labeling has become common social practice, my real objection is the inappropriate label "cis" for progender people.
Kinda like "straight" and "gay" in common parlance.
Not identifying with it is aptly described as being a psychologically "transgender" person (feeling that it's necessary to move across to the other gender than the one you were physically born with).
If we have to label it, "progender" and "transgender" work for me.
And, since the labeling has become common social practice, my real objection is the inappropriate label "cis" for progender people.
Kinda like "straight" and "gay" in common parlance.
Actually if you don't accept it, then you are a NO, so NCIS.
