All Things Hidden: Planets of the 12th House
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It could. Or it could give them insight into what's hidden, this ability would be strong in 12. Its also about rebirth, regeneration. In the end its what you choose yo make of it. All the options are there.
JUPITERASC
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Modern astrology accepts Mars as ruler of Aries and Scorpio
and states that Mars rules Aries
and then adds that
Mars and pluto are co-rulers of Scorpio
It is also important to keep in mind that
any planets in 12th house
have a sign ruler
and that sign ruler also has an influence
so the whole chart needs to be considered, not just one planet or one house
Kitchy
Banned
Hello -
I agree with the notion of unsettling, regarding 12th house intrusions. Everybody has a hideout of some sort. If you have planets in that house, you have some kind of investment in a hideout. Something you want no one to know about. That is everyone's house of the secrets they have never shared with anybody.
The problem with 12th house is the planets that are in them. They are beacons of sort - to other planets in your chart or someone elses. In varying degrees, they invite intrusion into a person's life. Whether the intrusion is postive or negative or neutral depends on the other planets.
The aspects will define who crashes your party and who shows up and and might as well stick around.
I agree with the notion of unsettling, regarding 12th house intrusions. Everybody has a hideout of some sort. If you have planets in that house, you have some kind of investment in a hideout. Something you want no one to know about. That is everyone's house of the secrets they have never shared with anybody.
The problem with 12th house is the planets that are in them. They are beacons of sort - to other planets in your chart or someone elses. In varying degrees, they invite intrusion into a person's life. Whether the intrusion is postive or negative or neutral depends on the other planets.
The aspects will define who crashes your party and who shows up and and might as well stick around.
JUPITERASC
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12th House planets signify that which is hidden from the person whose natal chart it is
such as for example 'hidden enemies'
as soon as those enemies are known, or discovered
those enemies are then the province of 7th house
Kitchy
Banned
Isn't it funny to equate Neptune ruled 12th with enemies? 12th house is typified as peaceful and flowing and non-confrontational. The retreat, the tribal ground, the secret spirit, the swimming yin and yang fish. The 69.
The worst hidden enemy to the 12th house native is the 12th house native. Where they resist through deception or avoidance to confront their need for seclusion or where they give up their cave because someone bigger or badder came and took it. People with planets in the 12th can inspire the most compassion and down and out and optimistically hopeful scenarios to meet everyone's imagination. The problem with 12th house - opposite of 6th - is the scheduled and actual delivery.
That is the problem everyone of us has - the 12th house promised delivery.
So of course if someone comes into your 12th with a need for promised delivery, and you know can't deliver - you do a dance, avoid, oh poor me, why is this happening, etc. The worst hidden enemy is obviousness of 12th house. I suppose the ruler of the 12th decides if you land on your feet, someone elses, get beat up or manage to disappear into vapor.
The worst hidden enemy to the 12th house native is the 12th house native. Where they resist through deception or avoidance to confront their need for seclusion or where they give up their cave because someone bigger or badder came and took it. People with planets in the 12th can inspire the most compassion and down and out and optimistically hopeful scenarios to meet everyone's imagination. The problem with 12th house - opposite of 6th - is the scheduled and actual delivery.
That is the problem everyone of us has - the 12th house promised delivery.
So of course if someone comes into your 12th with a need for promised delivery, and you know can't deliver - you do a dance, avoid, oh poor me, why is this happening, etc. The worst hidden enemy is obviousness of 12th house. I suppose the ruler of the 12th decides if you land on your feet, someone elses, get beat up or manage to disappear into vapor.
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david starling
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"Optimistically hopeful scenarios to meet everyone's imagination..."
"...the 12th house promised delivery." Like the Age of Aquarius, the Second Coming, and the Rapture? Behind schedule or pure fantasy?
"...the 12th house promised delivery." Like the Age of Aquarius, the Second Coming, and the Rapture? Behind schedule or pure fantasy?
AtlantikaZany
Banned
My analogy is that I tend to view the 12th as that of the ocean. It can be so beautiful, enchanting, and very spiritual but there are so many hidden 'monsters' below the surface that can come and take a bite out of you at any time.
But the thing is with the 12th house, when you learn to float without worries, and when you learn to swim, you transcend becoming a victim. You become part of the water and those things below you no longer have much power over you because you let go of fear.
But the thing is with the 12th house, when you learn to float without worries, and when you learn to swim, you transcend becoming a victim. You become part of the water and those things below you no longer have much power over you because you let go of fear.
david starling
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Great analogy! [IMO]
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JUPITERASC
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Seems to depend
on how long one can stay afloat on an ocean without food or water
or
alternatively
whether one can swim thousands of miles without food, or potable water
david starling
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Building on AZ's metaphor: We're inhabitants of this 12th house "ocean", not land-dwelling visitors. So we're equipped for survival in this metaphysical sea, like dolphins are in the materialistic ocean. Maybe WE are the sea monsters! lol
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JUPITERASC
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building on soggy ground covered by a vast ocean is inadvisable
by the way,
check out DREAM MOODS A-Z DREAMS DICTIONARY
Speak for yourself mon ami
meanwhile I assume your comments indicate that you rescind your original metaphor
to be fair
keep in mind
that steeds bolt
often for reasons other than attributable to the rider
persuasive,
BUT
a rider on a runaway steed may disagree
david starling
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Right--try not to let your Imagination run away with you, or run wild. According to Ancient Greek imagination-inspired Vision, horses are of the Sea.
I'd rather believe I'd be a dolphin (but I have met a few "sea monsters"!). Or maybe Aquaman or a merperson... Advice on choosing your mount: Best to avoid Nightmares!
I'd rather believe I'd be a dolphin (but I have met a few "sea monsters"!). Or maybe Aquaman or a merperson... Advice on choosing your mount: Best to avoid Nightmares!
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AtlantikaZany
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Haha you guys are funny. 
I hope everyone has a great Christmas... and if you don't celebrate it then have a great time anyway!
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I hope everyone has a great Christmas... and if you don't celebrate it then have a great time anyway!
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david starling
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[By the way, it's Virgos who tend to avoid saying some of the more edgy things they're thinking. Geminis often speak their minds, although usually not as forthrightly as Sagitarians.]
Yes, happy Saturnalia!
Yes, happy Saturnalia!