Causality in Astrology

Monk

Monk

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Thank you Luney,

I'm poor but find money for many Programmes in astrology and rare books on history, i will have something to say about Australia day later, however don't get angry with me, it doesn't have anything to do with Australia, but secret star alignments from the parliament of London!
 
waybread

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sadge said:
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Please share your Chiron aspects. I'm also curious about how it felt the moment the two of you met. That nodal axis connection is considered pretty binding. It's interesting how some people have described what it feels like.....on told often the other represents or thinks the exact opposite for many situations. It would depend on other factors, of course.

Thanks for your contributions. It's needed around here and adds value every time.

Sadge
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Thanks you Sadge. Natally we don't have much Chiron action, and I don't have a birth time for my husband. I'd been acquainted with him casually for a few years as we were in the same line of work. I knew something was going on after we pal-ed around at a conference, and I saw his aura. Something I've never done with anyone else. Our suns are trined at the same degree, as well; and his Mars conjuncts my Venus and my Mars trines his Venus. However, he's about got a grand square and I have an opposition that ping each other sometimes, so it's not like we don't sometimes have serious differences.

I'm a dual US-born naturalized Canadian citizen and love both countries.

Oddity, another Canadian member, has a more cynical view of Canada than I do.
 
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sadge

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Monk said:
Hi Sadge,

Yes a country like Canada is very NICE, you don't know electional astrology regarding parans, secret electional astrology, not from Canada, but London, i live in London so i attack my area!

Parans are the oldest astrology, however pull up a chart for Canada and origin of Canada Day for midnight Day marker on 1st July 1867 in Ottawa, links below:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Hill

Asc. is Ego Aries conjunct Neptune, meaning surrender to British date of Canada Day, Sun and Uranus can mean on Nadir an interesting unusual pact, however when i want i will show Sirius conjunct Nadir by paran!
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Thanks monk. I have not heard of this and will check out the links you shared. Thank you. :)

Now Monk and Luney..... I have a friend who is psychic (or maybe clairvoyant is a better term). She does the same thing as you, holds on to something that is metal to feel the psychic energy in it. she gets messages, but can also enter that "space" to see something (which takes deliberate effort). I don't doubt her, and she's got a pretty big clientele. However, when doing readings for me, she has gotten some things wrong at times (while other predictions/visions have been correct). I'm not being critical or doubtful here, but rather wondering how mixed bag of results can happen.

Can you explain?

Thanks so much for your time.

Sadge
 
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sadge

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waybread said:
Thanks you Sadge. Natally we don't have much Chiron action, and I don't have a birth time for my husband. I'd been acquainted with him casually for a few years as we were in the same line of work. I knew something was going on after we pal-ed around at a conference, and I saw his aura. Something I've never done with anyone else. Our suns are trined at the same degree, as well; and his Mars conjuncts my Venus and my Mars trines his Venus. However, he's about got a grand square and I have an opposition that ping each other sometimes, so it's not like we don't sometimes have serious differences.

I'm a dual US-born naturalized Canadian citizen and love both countries.

Oddity, another Canadian member, has a more cynical view of Canada than I do.
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Thanks. Would you be willing to share your two charts or data with me? Aspects alone don't tell me enough to make any meaningful conclusions or offer any meaningful contributions. For ex, I'd need to see rulers, etc. This does sound like an interesting tie.
 
Luney

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Monk said:
Thank you Luney,

I'm poor but find money for many Programmes in astrology and rare books on history, i will have something to say about Australia day later, however don't get angry with me, it doesn't have anything to do with Australia, but secret star alignments from the parliament of London!
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Monk, I find these threads so interesting. I apologize really for going off the subject. there was a mix of subjects. I realized we had a gift in common and got excited. , but so interesting . A pleasure to read.
 
Luney

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Now Monk and Luney..... I have a friend who is psychic (or maybe clairvoyant is a better term). She does the same thing as you, holds on to something that is metal to feel the psychic energy in it. she gets messages, but can also enter that "space" to see something (which takes deliberate effort). I don't doubt her, and she's got a pretty big clientele. However, when doing readings for me, she has gotten some things wrong at times (while other predictions/visions have been correct). I'm not being critical or doubtful here, but rather wondering how mixed bag of results can happen.
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Hi Sadge,
Its called Psychic Debris
Energy left from a previous client can still be present.
If you have stuff going on in your own life, can mix the bag.
If she is not picking up energy straight away, There are blockages.
I get that a lot, I'm like an energy sponge
Cleansing between clients is essential. I use a black Onyx around my neck to protect , as well as cleansing. Bi-carb soda works well. I use the ocean, crystals and meditation, Yoga Nidra, Chanting, Chakra balancing.
Binaural Beats, Even sleep is essential.
I do Reiki healing, . but not if I'm feeling heavy, or energy depleted.
I hope that helps .
 
Rawiri

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Not who you addressed the question to, but in addition to what Luney said...often people aren't perfect.

The "signal" gets static, from the interference of the "brain." This is very common, especially if someone is doing some kind of "psychic" work for someone they know, where they have even more preconceptions than normal. These interfere with the "pure" signal. This is commonly referred to as "analytical (or associative) overlay." Although goes by other names as well.

Government (or military specifically I suppose) attempted to bypass this major issue by developing remote viewing protocol, which encoded what was to be viewed with random digits etc. Thus preventing any preconceptions causing major issues. Various psychic researchers also attempt to bypass this in a similar manner.
 
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sadge

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Rawiri said:
Not who you addressed the question to, but in addition to what Luney said...often people aren't perfect.

The "signal" gets static, from the interference of the "brain." This is very common, especially if someone is doing some kind of "psychic" work for someone they know, where they have even more preconceptions than normal. These interfere with the "pure" signal. This is commonly referred to as "analytical (or associative) overlay." Although goes by other names as well.

Government (or military specifically I suppose) attempted to bypass this major issue by developing remote viewing protocol, which encoded what was to be viewed with random digits etc. Thus preventing any preconceptions causing major issues. Various psychic researchers also attempt to bypass this in a similar manner.
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Thanks, rawiri. Do you guys have to be touching something? Or can it be done without physical contact?

And when did you all first discover this gift? Lastly, do you attribute it to any specific natal aspects?
 
waybread

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Also, can anyone relate psychic ability to how it might work in reading a horoscope, or how that experience of astrology and "the gift" work in tandem?
 
Monk

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Dear Waybread,

Please don't contact Moderator for off-topic, i'm slow and have many chores, but keep on-topic until i reply!

Causality in astrology means many things, however i agree with your concept on many area's of astrology, especially Natal Astrology, no-one can really mess with that, however Mundane astrology has been effected by Hermetic Electional Astrology, which is very different, which changes our group path, i'm not well so wait for my insight, i will give thread section soon!
 
Monk

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Waybread will need CAUSE to reply, i will do it, soon!

Something small for LUNEY,

What has Shire of Isis to do with General religion of Area of Religion in Australia?

Hermetic means Egypt, although different astrology to what Waybread is using, please note i never attack Waybread, on this thread!

However Mundane Hermetic astrology may be not what she studies, she is a great lady in astrology, but electional hermetic astrology is different and hidden!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire_of_Isis

Please note date 1st Jan. 1887.
 
JUPITERASC

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Monk said:
Dear Waybread,

Please don't contact Moderator for off-topic, i'm slow and have many chores, but keep on-topic until i reply!

Causality in astrology means many things, however i agree with your concept on many area's of astrology, especially Natal Astrology, no-one can really mess with that, however Mundane astrology has been effected by Hermetic Electional Astrology, which is very different, which changes our group path, i'm not well so wait for my insight, i will give thread section soon!
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Hi Monk - interesting that traditional hierarchy of charts
places horary charts at the lowest level
with natal charts just above horary
MUNDANE astrological charts SUPERCEDE both horary and natal charts :smile:
for examples of different charts necessary for Mundane prediction
check out the predicting war thread at http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105480
obviously the techniques you use are ancient parans application
- oldest form of astrology
 
waybread

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Monk said:
Dear Waybread,

Please don't contact Moderator for off-topic, i'm slow and have many chores, but keep on-topic until i reply!

Causality in astrology means many things, however i agree with your concept on many area's of astrology, especially Natal Astrology, no-one can really mess with that, however Mundane astrology has been effected by Hermetic Electional Astrology, which is very different, which changes our group path, i'm not well so wait for my insight, i will give thread section soon!
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Monk, please look after your health. I can wait, but even so, you're under no obligation to respond.

I hope you feel better soon.
 
Monk

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Hi Lady Waybread,

I must start slowly, my only concern with thread, there may have been a great deal of Hermetic Electional Astrology/Mystery School Astrology regarding Mundane Astrology, that we don't fully understand, obviously Mundane astrology effects were we all are going, so would be crucial to understanding and Causality!

I will start with astrologers that influenced me greatly, one was Clare Martin, also interested in Western Mystery Traditions, who was president when i was a student at The Faculty of Astrological Studies in London, before i was disabled, however she was very modernist like you, link below:-

http://www.claremartin.net/

The other astrologer that influenced me greatly was Bernadette Brady, and i have her "STARLIGHT SOFTWARE," link below:-

http://www.zyntara.com/

I'm a strange mixture of the oldest and modernist, however astrologers have forgotten through the ages the oldest of all astrology, i'm a specialist in Parans or PARANATELLONTA, probably older than 13th Century BC, i'm hoping for more astrologers to follow Parans correctly, it is hard to debate with myself!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10705808

Next i will show how they work!
 
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Monk

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I am grounded now, so no longer look for explanation regarding my Quintiles, however when i was still trying, you may want to see a thread 7 years old, obviously modernist, Waybread has been impressed by my math ability, however that just means that astrologers need to study parans better regarding the right software:-

http://www.mauricefernandez.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1989

Whatever you see regarding Birthchart, the right approach would be, how can astrologers be novices in the oldest of all astrology????
 
waybread

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Greetings, Sir Monk!

Your posts led me to another contribution of Bernadette Brady, which she calls "visual astrology." I would call it constellational astrology, but no matter. She's gone back to interpret the various omens given in the Babylonian texts, to see what they actually meant from an astronomical/astrological perspective.

Her 3-part lecture starts here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Cao-fyS3Ao

and on the third segment, she talks about parans.

In my modern sort of way, I do think quintiles are very important, symbolizing talent + the ambition to manifest it.

But is astrology primarily a projection of the human mind onto the heavens?
 
Monk

Monk

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Hi Lady Waybread,

I have no control with Psychic Ability, it happens, however i do have a connection to parans, i can find other alignments by this by meditation, it may help!

I will quote you..."But is astrology primarily a projection of the mind onto the heavens!"

It could be if used in "Electional Hermetic Mundane Astrology!!!

But i could be wrong, it could be unconscious action, not deliberate electional mundane astrology, it is a double edged sword, one way could show that astrology actually works, the other would show deliberate conspiracy that is breath taking over 2000 years that is secret, roll the dice and comment as i follow with thread sections.

I will continue soon!
 
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