which progressions and/or transits make the native invisible/ignored/isolated?

dd78

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do you have experience with transits or progressions that may cause the native feel as if he was ignored/invisible/isolated/deprived of positive things others get?

I suppose progressions and transits to 12house and its ruler may be the cause
 

IleneK

Premium Member
These are just my thoughts [from kitty to kitty :smile::smile:]...
I think it really depends upon the native's chart.
I've had progressed Sun move into a strongly tenanted 12th house and my life in my spiritual community has unfolded and blossomed in ways I certainly never would have expected or even imagined. So this progression into the 12th did not correspond with feeling ignored, invisible or isolated.
I think being deprived of positive things that others get, or even looking at things that way, comparing and coming up wanting, is more Saturn's domain?
 
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dd78

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These are just my thoughts [from kitty to kitty :smile::smile:]...

I think being deprived of positive things that others get, or even looking at things that way, comparing and coming up wanting, is more Saturn's domain?

Hi Ilene, Thank you for your response :)

I agree - Saturn poisons and damages the whole life and deprives of everything but pain, torture, rejection, depression, despair, failure , loss, and so on.

Resistance is futile and only makes things worse.
I`m afraid there`s no way out of it if it`s in a natal chart :(
 

JUPITERASC

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Hi Ilene, Thank you for your response :)

I agree - Saturn poisons and damages the whole life and deprives of everything but pain, torture, rejection, depression, despair, failure , loss, and so on.

Resistance is futile and only makes things worse.
I`m afraid there`s no way out of it if it`s in a natal chart :(
According to ancient Hellenistic astrologers :smile:

"...Saturn rejects and excludes..."

.
 

dd78

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According to ancient Hellenistic astrologers :smile:

"...Saturn rejects and excludes..."

.

Yes, Jupiterasc,
I fully agree with your own statement: "generalisation is fun but not reliable"
:lol:

pulling words (and sentences) out of the context is one of the favorite manipulation methods of all time.

Used by ancients and steadily growing more and more popular at present :smile:
 

JUPITERASC

Well-known member
Hi Ilene, Thank you for your response :)

I agree


- Saturn poisons

and

damages the whole life
and

deprives of everything
but pain, torture, rejection, depression,

despair, failure , loss,

and so on.
Resistance is futile

and only makes things worse.

I`m afraid there`s no way out of it if it`s in a natal chart :(
According to ancient Hellenistic astrologers :smile:
"...Saturn rejects and excludes..."
Yes, this is why it is said to "'destroy"
any horary chart;
unless
the L1 one actually wants null results and/or delays...:wink:
interesting
 

dd78

Well-known member
interesting

are we talking about semantics or pragmatics? :innocent:


Have you seen a chart with Saturn conjunct AC that was a chart of a successful person or an event?

I`m interested if it can be different than a failure if the querent is too pessimistic and/or anxious to act [and be successful], as Saturn on AC seems to mean in general?
 

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