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Which aspects will point a rich spouse?

To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:
  • I heard that Jupiter in the 8th house will bring a millionaire marriage partner.
  • Venus in the 8th can also bring a rich partner.
  • The ruler of the 7th house in a good aspect to Jupiter also bring a very moneyed spouse.
  • The ruler of the 7th in any aspect to the ruler of the 2nd or 10th, or 8th house?
  • The ruler of the 7th in the 2nd, 8th, 10th also.
    The ruler of the 7th in Libra, Sagittarius, or Taurus


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To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:
  • I heard that Jupiter in the 8th house will bring a millionaire marriage partner.
I have this. Well, Jupiter in the 8th (trines 7th house ruler) that is, not the millionaire husband.
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I have this. Well, Jupiter in the 8th (trines 7th house ruler) that is, not the millionaire husband.

I have found that venus in good aspect in various places produces this result. The 7th must be well aspected, the eight must be well aspected and the 2nd and the 11 house must also be clear.

To actually really see how suddenly the person has become rich, we must progress his chart, or in the indian way check out his maha dasha .

Jupiter in 8 for most persons indicate that people help them, giving them freebies, and also in most other cases, that the partner (wife / or husband) are also helping in running the house. That means that both partners are paying.
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To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:
  • I heard that Jupiter in the 8th house will bring a millionaire marriage partner.
  • Venus in the 8th can also bring a rich partner.
  • The ruler of the 7th house in a good aspect to Jupiter also bring a very moneyed spouse.
  • The ruler of the 7th in any aspect to the ruler of the 2nd or 10th, or 8th house?
  • The ruler of the 7th in the 2nd, 8th, 10th also.
    The ruler of the 7th in Libra, Sagittarius, or Taurus

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I have three of these aspects and I am still waiting. Jupiter in the 8th will not guarantee a millionaire marriage partner. What is does help with is attracting partners that a doing better than you financially, which of course you will benefit from. Overall, it usually means financial success as a couple. Of course one has to consider the ruler of the 8th, any planets in there including Jupiter and how they are aspected.
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If you want a millionaire for a spouse, then you probably haven't spoken to any.
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If you want a millionaire for a spouse, then you probably haven't spoken to any.
Sorry I didn't understand the message.
can you explain me?


I am just searching aspects in this site for learn, and has nothing doing from my desires in a man. I am not that materialistic, but it wouldn't be bad to have a millionaire for spouse. Doesn't mean "I want" a millionaire for a spouse. of course I will like to marry someone successful, not someone that has nothing to offer.
By the way I have spoke and hang out with rich ones... but not that millionaires, I am referring to people that have private jet.

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To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:
  • I heard that Jupiter in the 8th house will bring a millionaire marriage partner.
  • Venus in the 8th can also bring a rich partner.
  • The ruler of the 7th house in a good aspect to Jupiter also bring a very moneyed spouse.
  • The ruler of the 7th in any aspect to the ruler of the 2nd or 10th, or 8th house?
  • The ruler of the 7th in the 2nd, 8th, 10th also.
    The ruler of the 7th in Libra, Sagittarius, or Taurus


Do you know more?
Hi Virgo,
You must keep in mind that the planets you are referring to must be well situated to indicate fortune. Jupiter retrograde in the 8th might actually describe someone who has financial problems or bad spending habits.
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Re: Which aspects will point a rich spouse?

The 8th house generally signals the resources from one's marriage. In a "turned" chart or "derived house" system, you would start with your 7th house as indicating one's spouse; and then consider that the 2nd house is the house of money relating to the marriage. But as Ray indicated, even if you have Venus and/or Jupiter in the 8th or as the ruler of the 8th, if their situation looks like a train wreck, Mr. Money Bags is not likely to materialize--at least, not in a way you want to get involved in.

Then people should look at their own money situation--both the 2nd and 8th houses. Sometimes people look wishfully and externally for money--like winning the lottery or marrying into money--because they actually don't have a strong head for personal finance themselves. The best solution here is to hone one's own personal money management skills.

I have known some pretty well-heeled people, and one thing that strikes me is that people with money tend to marry other people with money. Not always, but often. This makes sense, because they are apt to move in the same socio-economic circles, and feel most comfortable with someone of a similar upbringing. I have also known/known of two men (of middle-income, if not middle-class) who married heiresses and thought they were set for life, but the marriages didn't last. Sometimes people with money feel a sense of entitlement as to how they expect to be treated by a spouse.

BTW, my ex husband has Jupiter retrograde: I don't have an accurate birth time, but his own estimate put Jupiter in the 2nd house. It is afflicted. His money management style was a big part of the reason for our divorce.
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I was told by an astrologer I have a chart thats great for a rich housewife, although I'm the last person who would pursue that. I think it involves the 8th house.
I think it's your 8th AND 10th.

Worth recognising that there are two basic ways of becoming a millionaire:
- working hard or creatively to build the fortune.
- lucking into it by the lottery or inheritance.

To me someone who wants a millionaire husband (or trophy wife) would have strong aims and ambitions to go and pursue that type of person. Probably strong mars/saturn/pluto to give the persistence and drive. To an extent this would also be the case for the inheritance - you'd have to be 'targetting' someone above loving them.

As to marrying someone who happens into money, I'd guess that's much more Jupiter/Venus related.
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BTW, my ex husband has Jupiter retrograde: I don't have an accurate birth time, but his own estimate put Jupiter in the 2nd house. It is afflicted. His money management style was a big part of the reason for our divorce.
Yes, I know, because I have it myself. The irony of Jupiter's placement is it can actually indicate wealth but wealth that is mismanaged and squandered. I think that's the true meaning of this placement (Jupiter retro as a money significator).
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I think it's your 8th AND 10th.

Worth recognising that there are two basic ways of becoming a millionaire:
- working hard or creatively to build the fortune.
- lucking into it by the lottery or inheritance.

To me someone who wants a millionaire husband (or trophy wife) would have strong aims and ambitions to go and pursue that type of person. Probably strong mars/saturn/pluto to give the persistence and drive. To an extent this would also be the case for the inheritance - you'd have to be 'targetting' someone above loving them.

As to marrying someone who happens into money, I'd guess that's much more Jupiter/Venus related.
Just a few comments on the second way.

1. Anyone's odds of winning a lottery (or somesuch) are incredibly small. Sure, somebody's going to win it, but the odds of it being you are teeny-tiny.

Ditto for gambling wins: for the "mathematically challenged." Astrologically, you may be able to tell if your odds are greater than most. Gambling is a 5th house matter. But if the ruler of your 5th is in the 12th, badly challenged, &c., forget it. My friends who enjoy casino gambling set a cap on how much they are prepared to lose (as payment for entertainment), and when they've spent it, they're done.

2. Getting an inheritance is usually not "lucking into it." Normally it means your parents have to die. Or someone else you really care about.
The notion of a long-lost great-uncle dying and leaving you a fortune is the stuff of fiction, not reality.

3. In either case, people with no money management skills generally have difficulty hanging on to large sums of money if they get them through a lottery or an inheritance. They end up in debt. Why? Because they have no money management skills. They tend to spend the money, not save it.

The best thing we can do is develop some personal finance skills at whatever income level we are at. Some people also have a talent at investing their money and making it grow; but that talent usually is bolstered with serious financial homework; and not spending money on luxuries they don't need--let alone luxuries purchased with a credit card.

BTW my absolute favourite personal finance guru is Suze Orman www.suzeorman.com . She's not an advisor for people with the bank surplus and knowledge to choose sophisticated investments, but an advisor for the rest of us.
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To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:

  • The ruler of the 7th house in a good aspect to Jupiter also bring a very moneyed spouse.
  • The ruler of the 7th in any aspect to the ruler of the 2nd or 10th, or 8th house?
  • The ruler of the 7th in the 2nd, 8th, 10th also.
    The ruler of the 7th in Libra, Sagittarius, or Taurus
I have ruler of 7th IN CONJUCTION with Jupiter - always wanted money of my own.
Ruler of 7th IS ASPECTING ruler of 2nd and 10th - always wanted money of my own, ruler of my 2nd in my 1st = in my hands.
Ruler of 7th in 10th - always wanted money of my own - career.
Ruler of 7th in Sagittarius - money of my own, true my career, Mercury in conj. with Jupiter (speach, writing, learning) - ABROAD (Sagittarius -foreign countries)
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2. Getting an inheritance is usually not "lucking into it." Normally it means your parents have to die. Or someone else you really care about.
The notion of a long-lost great-uncle dying and leaving you a fortune is the stuff of fiction, not reality.
I meant "lucking into it" from the perspective that you can't choose which family you're born into. It's a matter of fate or chance whether your relations are going to be rich enough for you to inherit significant levels of material wealth.
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I meant "lucking into it" from the perspective that you can't choose which family you're born into. It's a matter of fate or chance whether your relations are going to be rich enough for you to inherit significant levels of material wealth.
I think it is important to be realistic about what "lucking into" an inheritance really means. It is by no means so simple. I guess I "lucked into" a middle class family through the circumstances of my birth. But my father died relatively young of one of the bad kinds of cancers with essentially no recovery rate. He was horribly ill the last 18 months of his life.

Because my mother had been a housewife for most of her life and my siblings and I were working in reasonably secure jobs, he bequeathed his estate to her. Then her physical and mental health went from bad to worse, in part out of what I believe was a kind of death-wish brought on by poorly treated alcoholism and depression. So she died a few years later. I was the one who had to clean her apartment, which meant cleaning the feces off the bathroom walls, among other horrors.

Then my siblings and I came into the inheritance she left us. The money was nice. At first. Because I had no money-management smarts, I spent a lot of it and invested some of it badly. Then because I liked the nicer life style that the inheritance initially funded, we began charging things on credit cards that ultimately we couldn't repay each month, so our accumulated debt based on credit card interest soared. At the time of my divorce, I was a single mom with two school-aged children at home and roughly $45,000 of credit card debt to pay off.

I would rather have had healthy, long-lived parents and no inheritance than the nightmare that ensued.

Looking bad on this situation some 25 years later, I would say the inheritance did not help me financially in the long run. Unless I count learning from my mistakes. I was able to take an early retirement into a middle-class lifestyle, thank goodness, based on a really good pension plan and severance package from my former employer, not because I had wisely invested my inheritance. If I had done that, I would be a millionaire now.

Personal finance skills, people: you gotta have 'em.

Don't look to Jupiter for that.
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Inside, thank you for checking my chart for indicators. I'm into working hard or creatively to build the fortune, I would only marry for love. I have strong aims and ambitions relating to career goals, I've always been into achieving my own success rather than pursuing someone to benefit from theirs.

Would the Part of Fortune relate to this? mines is in Aries in the second house and opposes Sun in the eighth house, it trines Moon in the tenth house.
Yes Skill, of course the mystical part of fortune relates to this. For example, if fortune is in the seventh or eighth--this may describe fortune/power/wealth in its varied degrees stemming from the partner or others' resources.

For you, part of fortune is in the third house in Aries in whole sign with its ruler situated. Mars in its own sign suggests an independence that you would build your wealth on your own .. especially with it opposing the ruler of the 7th, Sun -- the Sun is weak anyway, I would also say you are better off with this approach as you might attract others in financial situations worse than your own.

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I have ruler of 7th IN CONJUCTION with Jupiter - always wanted money of my own.
Ruler of 7th IS ASPECTING ruler of 2nd and 10th - always wanted money of my own, ruler of my 2nd in my 1st = in my hands.
Ruler of 7th in 10th - always wanted money of my own - career.
Ruler of 7th in Sagittarius - money of my own, true my career, Mercury in conj. with Jupiter (speach, writing, learning) - ABROAD (Sagittarius -foreign countries)
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My saturn is in my 2 nd house
My venus, neptun(7 th and 8 th house), mercur and slightly sun(some says it is in 9 th house) are in my 8 th house
in my 7 th house, there is a Mars,
so I was a succesful private banker more than 10 years, I believe you can increase your money but you can not be rich with investment if you dont take so much risk or if you don't earn money from your business, family, inheritance etc...
I dont know the rich spouse situation, my venus is in my 8 th house, my jupiter is in my 9 th house but after I got married, I spent a lot of money and I changed my life completely. My spouse is not rich...
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i have jupiter in 8th, sextile mercury(my chart ruler and 2nd house ruler in placidus) in 10th.
Ruler of seventh in sagitarius in 4th.

two major relationships and neither rich.

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I would also look to POF it's placement and aspects. I have Jupiter Retro in 8th house well aspected and haven't found a partner yet with megga finaces (but am working on it)

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http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm
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“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.”
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.”
http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.”
http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html
just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots --
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

"Some formulas listed here have both an AM and PM version. The PM version is a reverse of the AM version and when indicated, persons born in the daytime (Sun in 7th - 12th houses) should use the AM formula while persons born in the evening (Sun in 1st - 6th houses) should use the PM formula. Sometimes it's best to try both formulas."
Check the placement of the Sun in the chart, it must be sensibly placed relative to the horizon for the given time of day. For a day birth, the Sun must be above the horizon.
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My PoF is also in the 8th house in Scorpio. Hanging out with Jupiter. Now, perhaps unfortunately, so is my chart ruler, Neptune.
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To get a rich spouse or a fortunate marriage... in terms of money:
  • I heard that Jupiter in the 8th house will bring a millionaire marriage partner.
  • Venus in the 8th can also bring a rich partner.
  • The ruler of the 7th house in a good aspect to Jupiter also bring a very moneyed spouse.
  • The ruler of the 7th in any aspect to the ruler of the 2nd or 10th, or 8th house?
  • The ruler of the 7th in the 2nd, 8th, 10th also.
    The ruler of the 7th in Libra, Sagittarius, or Taurus


Do you know more?
Sometimes the Jupiter in the 8th is a result of inheritance.
THe ruler of 7th being Venus or Jupiter and/or posited there. Taurus on the cusp. However none of these aspects will guarantee a rich spouse necessarily. The second is more personal income or assets and the 8th is shared assets, gifts etc. We all know that the rich can and do attract the beautful, and preferably young, so being that, is also helpful.
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i have jupiter in 8th, sextile mercury(my chart ruler and 2nd house ruler in placidus) in 10th.
Ruler of seventh in sagitarius in 4th.

two major relationships and neither rich.

Hello fushia fairy

would you like to post your chart.? there may be other factors here. We cannot see a house in isolation
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My PoF is also in the 8th house in Scorpio. Hanging out with Jupiter. Now, perhaps unfortunately, so is my chart ruler, Neptune.
So, there's your problem, Neptune in 8th house, illusions, deceptions, uncertainty etc.

I have Jupiter well aspected in 8th, close trine moon in aries 3rd conj 4th cusp. At age 53 I have not yet inherited or been married to someone rich BUT am living in hope. My current partner is megga rich and next week could be crucial to our finances. Will let you know...

8th is not just about spouses finances either, it's inheritances, occult, sex, life after death, goods of the deceased etc.

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation
by Carmen Turner-Schott
http://www.ofspirit.com/carmenturnerschott1.htm

A member on this thread mentioned having Saturn in 2nd house, which can produce a 'fear of poverty' aspect and although some millionaires have this aspect it can of course show where there is a 'lack of confidence' and where they have to work hard to overcome obstacles. and of course a lot depends on how saturn is aspected, ie: with malific or benefic planets...
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Re: Which aspects will point a rich spouse?

I always had partners who had well paid jobs, but none of them I'd consider 'rich'. My hang-up is that I always feel I have to pay my own way and I need to be financially independent from anybody, even a husband. When I divorced, I only wanted half of the proceeds of the house and let him have all the furniture and stuff as well as all savings and investments. I'm sure he thought I was nuts. And perhaps I was. I think I did it because I felt bad for initiating the divorce even though he had behaved in a for me unforgivable way.

I also do have Saturn in the 2nd house and I have a great fear of poverty. I can be very good with money if I have to.
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I'm not sure which astrological qualities point to finding a rich spouse, but what confuses me more is why someone would want a rich spouse. Why would you? It seems like a good thing, providing a comfortable life that doesn't directly require work, but is it a good thing? I'm sure that there are a few rich people who might be slanted toward the side of good character, but I doubt they will have a character that is nearly as clean or as strong as that of the average poor person. Living a life with reduced problems from the "real world" (such as working for everything, always being a buck short, having to prioritise needs instead of wants, et cetera) actually will build a weak, selfish character. A rich person calculates all things in terms of monetary value, including people. It's just a habit. There are plenty of examples of this. As Jesus said, "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." (Matt 19:24 KJV) So, if you want God, then it's best to pursue God and leave the rich to their own. I cite Jesus because He is the Master, but this is far from being just a Christian concept. Buddhists would agree entirely. Daoists would also agree.

P.S. To make that point a little clearer, Heaven and hell already exist here and now. Heaven and hell are what you build for yourself by building for others. Before you go on to experience them after death, you will experience them here. How will the rich spouse treat you and how will you treat them? How will you look at each other? What are you willing to become?

P.P.S. I am aware that the common translation of the word "Dao" is a poor translation and usually spelled "Tao." The fact that it is a romanisation of ancient Chinese in which the phonetics don't match is what makes it a poor translation for common usage. Thus, I say, "Dao."
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