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I believe every 9 years is a generation (since 1901 if I'm referring to the 20th century and now in the 21st), but I go by the years 5 to 4 to mean a decade within two halves of two decades, and it's ruled by a sign of the zodiac, it can give good details and inquiry about these generations under a particular sign.

FIRST HALF OF CENTURY/ZODIACAL CYCLE
1895-1904: Virgo (they were the elders the Boomers in their 20s protested against in the 1960s, interestingly the Boomers are now in their 60s and 70s, Millennials might be the ones to remind the Boomers what the 1900-era people were like to them).
1905-14: Libra (they lived through a balance of prosperity and depression, war and peace, and liberal or conservative trends of the century).
1915-24: Scorpio (difficult experience in Great Depression, fought WW2 and home front, and shock of 1960s social-cultural-political upheavel.
1925-34: Sagittarius (more religious, skeptical about beliefs, and were in their young adult years during 1950s/midcentury/post-WW2 boom).
1935-44: Capricorn (elderly years are their life peaks, more open in liberal and conservative levels, and devotion to business and social norms).
SECOND HALF
1945-54: Aquarius (radicalism, empowerment, and great social change in the last quarter/third of 20th century).
1955-64: Pisces (peak of world/human historic prosperity, more likely in born again Christianity, and open to spirituality).
1965-74: Aries (neoconservatism, cynicalism about government or authority, and Reagan-era patriotism).
1975-84: Taurus (dislike of yuppie values, global minded or conscious, and socialist ideas despite the end of many kinds of socialism worldwide).
1985-94: Gemini (the internet age, easily expressive, and business strategy while difficult transition to adulthood).
1995-2004: Cancer (closer to families, gender neutrality and fluidity, and well e-connected in social media).
2005-2014: Leo (not sure what the current generation of children are, but are a product of a new year/decade/century/millennia/age, and American children live in a different world after 9/11 with war on Terror, the Great Recession mixed with the first black president Obama, and no memory of the Cold war before Bill Clinton.)

I can see the peak of the cycle with the baby Boom era, 1945-65 (Aquarius plus Pisces) and the bottoms around 1890-1900 and 2010-2020 generations. It may explain the Baby-boomers had large numbers in size, great deals of wealth and prosperity, and political and sociocultural influence than born under Leo/Virgo.

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Re: each generation has a sign?

The Boomer Aquarian/Piscean generation can relate to the sexual curiousity of their Scorpio parents and the environmental/ecological consciousness of their Taurus children. But, they were a contrast from many older Sagittarians who volunteered in the US armed forces during the Korean war when the US had a military draft, and they were fascinated with the younger Aries patriotic fervor after 9/11 (2001) to volunteered to fight in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to find and combat terrorist groups. And they along with Pisceans had pursuits in the rough and tough and ready Capricornian world of corporate business: the 1980s yuppie workplace culture in the Boomer generation's middle age.
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I have an interest in what younger people than me are up to, into or onto: the Geminis and Cancers shall inherit the earth after the elders (Virgos and Libras) mostly or long died out. And I want the current Leos (second half may ended) to live a better life and have a better world than I have or anyone born before me.
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Fascinating! I enjoyed reading this..
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For the last about 4-5 generations which I know better, it was superb description.
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Every 4 years (imagine all the classes in a high school), they have a ruling sign to determine their personality. I'm not sure it has to do with a hypothetical planetoid between Saturn and Uranus' orbits (does it exist?), sort of like Chiron with a 50-some year orbit between the "conservative and progressive" planets (Saturn represent traditions, Uranus with reforms). Here are the "classes" of people born in certain years (is Aries or Libra the end and start of the cycle?).

1922-25 (1926) Libra, 1926-29 (1930) Scorpio, 1930-33 (1934) Sagittarius, 1934-37 (1938) Capricorn, 1938-41 (1942) Aquarius, 1942-45 (1946) Pisces, 1946-49 (1950) Aries, 1950-53 (1954) Taurus, 1954-57 (1958) Gemini, 1958-61 (1962) Cancer, 1962-65 (1966) Leo, 1966-69 (1970) Virgo, 1970-73 (1974) Libra, 1974-77 (1978) Scorpio, 1978-81 (1982) Sagittarius, 1982-85 (1986) Capricorn, 1986-89 (1990) Aquarius, 1990-93 (1994) Pisces, 1994-97 (1998) Aries, 1998-2001 (2002) Taurus, 2002-05 (2006) Gemini, 2006-09 (2010) Cancer, 2010-13 (2014) Leo and 2014-17 (2018) Virgo. 2018 is a Libra, while 1918-21 is a Virgo.

Recently, a trans-Neptunian or Kuiper belt dwarf planet was discovered and the name should be Aether (proposed for a future discovery). And for years, many astronomers believe a big planet not yet discovered with a 20,000 year orbit exists. Now, for a possible planetoid to influence generations of people, how about calling it Michael - the biblical archangel (and my first name, by chance). Or save Michael for the 20k year orbit. The "tenth planet" should be called Xena - the warrior princess, one of 2 proposed names for the now dwarf planet Eris.
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The 2,160 year age of Pisces ended in 2012 AD and the age of Aquarius has begun. 2,160 divided by 12 signs are eras, the last one was from 1832-2012, the one of Pisces, and smaller divides by 12- the last Pisces period 1997-2012. And we just entered an epoch (2,160 x 12) of Capricorn in the year 2012 AD, the third epoch of recorded human history started with Pisces and Aquarius.
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26 generations (or 10 since the American revolution when the USA declared its independence) from letters A-Z, about every 18 years since 1550 is a new generation in American society. Anyone born in 2018 is a generation Alpha if we go by the Greek alphabet for now on until the year 2576, which is like 8 centuries from the year 1776. Note the generation "X" can either mean the 24th letter of the Roman alphabet or the number "10" in Roman numerals. And what sign would this generation be...Capricorn, the 10th or 24th will fall in the chronological order of astrological zodiac signs? (what about the scary number 13th or Generation XIII (the Z 2000-18 is the 26th), more of an Ophiuchus?)
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Generally speaking, the political world finds the third score of the century (1941-60) in charge of the US establishment, the oldest I can think of is Sen. Bernie Sanders and our current president Donald Trump (born June 10, 1946) is a boomer. I find they are ruled by Aquarius (and double Aquarius, 1951-60, but the Aquarian realm can extend to the fourth score, 1961-70). The fourth score (1961-80) is Piscean, the fifth score is Aries (1981-2000) who we call them the millennials, and finally the first score of the millennia (2001-19) are Taurus. The older generations who died or dying off are Sagittarius (1901-20) and Capricorn (1921-40). The clash of the Aquarius (most prosperous and ultimately powerful) vs the Aries (most numerous to be born and difficulties in becoming established adults) will be strongly felt in the next coming decade, when the Boomers retire or die out from power, the Gen X/Y who are in their middle-ages and I suppose, the millennials will inherit this country's system.
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As a Generation Y'er (1970s and 80s people), I don't believe I'm about to make my adult life as good as my parents, the economy has changed and opportunity has became more limited in my lifetime. This doesn't sound any bit Piscean - the sign of fortune, luck and success - for my generation to deal with multiple problems. Going by another model (born 1976-85), we wouldn't be Taurean - the sign of money, luxury and prosperity - or in my case, I live off worse than my parents who are baby boomers (1946-64, esp 1946-55 or 1941-60 range).
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Astrology can determine this statistic: A person born in 1946 has a 85% chance of having more money than their parents in the course of their lifetime, vs one born in 1980 which is 50% and in 2014, a low 15%. And another statistic said anyone born in 1930 and 40 are 90% more affluent than their parents, while for those born in 1980, they have just 50% of their parents' income (average household incomes in the US in this year 2019). There has been an economic decline, esp. for the peak ages of people which are 21-39 for each generation in the past 50 years.

Edit: My generation is called the halfway generation (anyone born in the late 1970s-early 80s) are halfway established, meaning half of us are in their own homes with decent-paying jobs and the other half doesn't. Gen X (late 1960s-early 70s) are mostly established now, but gen Z (late 1980s-early 90s) hasn't done much. Does this have to do with the placement of Uranus - the generational planet, either in tropical Scorpio (1974-80) or sidereal Scorpio (1980-86) - in a malefic sign?
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I'm going to check for the generational sign's ruler planet's placements, it'll explain further traits of the generation.

1905-14: Libra (Eris).
1915-24: Scorpio (Pluto).
1925-34: Sagittarius (Jupiter).
1935-44: Capricorn (Saturn).
1945-54: Aquarius (Uranus).
1955-64: Pisces (Neptune).
1965-74: Aries (Pluto-represented by its moon Charon).
1975-84: Taurus (True Node or north).
1985-94: Gemini (True Node or south).
1995-2004: Cancer (Haumea).
2005-2014: Leo (Makemake).
2015-24: Virgo (Sedna).

Uranus was in Gemini 1945-46; Cancer 1946-53; and Leo 1954-54 for the Aquarians (boomers) while Eris is in Aries for Taureans (generation Y).
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I use the Neptunian cycle for generations, divided into two accompanying Uranian cycles. For me, that's the Neptune/Libra generation, about 1942-1956. Peace and love generation. 1st half, /, 2nd half, /. It's marvellous how these two Planets are so well synchronized.
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Traditional outers Jupiter and Saturn are generational planets
Jupiter = 12 years to orbit Sun
and
Saturn = 30 years to orbit Sun
- additionally, during their respective orbits of the Sun
Jupiter and Saturn are in conjunction only approximately every 20 years.

These specific spans of time

chime well with the accepted idea of “a generation”
being the span of time necessary before human beings are physically able
to produce a child of their own
in human terms, 'a generation' can be a variable
- that's because some produce offspring very early
and in many 'eastern' countries before their teens.

However, in 'the west' there is a tendency to initially focus on 'career'
before then producing offspring later in the 30's.
The middle ground would be those producing offspring in their 20's.
Based on those rather "rough and ready" spans of time then:

(1) A twelve year Jupiter orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at an age considered in 'the west'
very young - i.e. 12

(2) A thirty year Saturn orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at what is considered in 'the west'
to be a 'more responsible age' - i.e. 30

(3) A combination of the two planets in regular 20 year Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions

then represent the 'middle-ground' - i.e. 19/20

USUALLY a generation
averages about 25 years from the birth of a parent to the birth of a child
- although it varies case by case
it is generally accepted that the length of a generation
was closer to 20 years in earlier times
when humans mated younger
and life expectancies were shorter

Among present-day members

of a contemporary hunter-gatherer people
of Botswana and Namibia
whose lifestyle is relatively similar
to that of our Western pre-agricultural ancestors
the average age of mothers
at the birth of their first child was 20 years
and at the last birth 31
giving a mean of 25.5 years per female generation
which is considerably above the 20 years
commonly attributed to 'primitive cultures'.
Fathers were six to 13 years older than mothers
giving a male generational interval of 31 to 38 years.
(source: sociologist Nancy Howell)

Alternatively,
population geneticists Marc Tremblay and Hélène Vézina

found a generational interval, based on the years between parents’ and children’s marriages
to average 31.7 years
and
they determined that male generations averaged 35.0 years
while female generations averaged 28.7 years.
(source: 100 ascending Quebec genealogies)

A separate study by Biological anthropologist Agnar Helgason and colleagues
who used the Icelandic deCODE genetics database
to arrive at a female line interval of 28.12 years for the most recent generations
and 28.72 years for the whole lineage length.
Male line lineages showed a similar difference
—31.13 years for the recent generations
and 31.93 years overall.

For a more mathematically appealing average then

Helagason and fellow researchers recommended
estimating female generational line intervals at 30 years
and male generational intervals at 35 years
- based on the Quebec and Iceland studies.

We need to keep in mind
that current understandings in physical and biological sciences
are subject to change
as more data becomes available
and that data’s interpretation becomes more certain.

So, for now
when genealogists want to convert generations to years
and create probable date ranges, using an evidence-based generational interval
such as Helagason’s 30 and 35 years
- or even one developed based on your own family history research
may be the best solution.
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Traditional outers Jupiter and Saturn are generational planets
Jupiter = 12 years to orbit Sun
and
Saturn = 30 years to orbit Sun
- additionally, during their respective orbits of the Sun
Jupiter and Saturn are in conjunction only approximately every 20 years.

These specific spans of time

chime well with the accepted idea of “a generation”
being the span of time necessary before human beings are physically able
to produce a child of their own
in human terms, 'a generation' can be a variable
- that's because some produce offspring very early
and in many 'eastern' countries before their teens.

However, in 'the west' there is a tendency to initially focus on 'career'
before then producing offspring later in the 30's.
The middle ground would be those producing offspring in their 20's.
Based on those rather "rough and ready" spans of time then:

(1) A twelve year Jupiter orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at an age considered in 'the west'
very young - i.e. 12

(2) A thirty year Saturn orbit of the sun represents

those who are parents at what is considered in 'the west'
to be a 'more responsible age' - i.e. 30

(3) A combination of the two planets in regular 20 year Jupiter-Saturn conjunctions

then represent the 'middle-ground' - i.e. 19/20

USUALLY a generation
averages about 25 years from the birth of a parent to the birth of a child
- although it varies case by case
it is generally accepted that the length of a generation
was closer to 20 years in earlier times
when humans mated younger
and life expectancies were shorter

Among present-day members

of a contemporary hunter-gatherer people
of Botswana and Namibia
whose lifestyle is relatively similar
to that of our Western pre-agricultural ancestors
the average age of mothers
at the birth of their first child was 20 years
and at the last birth 31
giving a mean of 25.5 years per female generation
which is considerably above the 20 years
commonly attributed to 'primitive cultures'.
Fathers were six to 13 years older than mothers
giving a male generational interval of 31 to 38 years.
(source: sociologist Nancy Howell)

Alternatively,
population geneticists Marc Tremblay and Hélène Vézina

found a generational interval, based on the years between parents’ and children’s marriages
to average 31.7 years
and
they determined that male generations averaged 35.0 years
while female generations averaged 28.7 years.
(source: 100 ascending Quebec genealogies)

A separate study by Biological anthropologist Agnar Helgason and colleagues
who used the Icelandic deCODE genetics database
to arrive at a female line interval of 28.12 years for the most recent generations
and 28.72 years for the whole lineage length.
Male line lineages showed a similar difference
—31.13 years for the recent generations
and 31.93 years overall.

For a more mathematically appealing average then

Helagason and fellow researchers recommended
estimating female generational line intervals at 30 years
and male generational intervals at 35 years
- based on the Quebec and Iceland studies.

We need to keep in mind
that current understandings in physical and biological sciences
are subject to change
as more data becomes available
and that data’s interpretation becomes more certain.

So, for now
when genealogists want to convert generations to years
and create probable date ranges, using an evidence-based generational interval
such as Helagason’s 30 and 35 years
- or even one developed based on your own family history research
may be the best solution.
Is there a way to characterize each succeeding Jupiter/Saturn generation with the qualities of a specific astrological Sign?
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