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Yesterday something came into my mind , i thought about my mercury in Virgo in the 10th house and said i've never seen my mercury making any aspects to other planets it is basically sitting in the 10th house isolated from other planets , I am really curious to know how does this work.

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Yesterday something came into my mind , i thought
about my mercury in Virgo in the 10th house
and said i've never saw my mercury making any aspects to other planets
it is basically sitting in the 10th house
isolated from other planets , I am really curious to know how does this work.
You have several threads with your chart already posted
so uploading your chart to this thread as well
would provide ease of reference
and
Using kaktuzz website free natal chart creation page
at https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology
would assist with viewing a chart that is clear to read
and notice that your natal Mercury most definitely IS aspected
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Re: Unaspected Planet?!

Old posts are before I got my birth certificate I double checked my chart now and didn't find any aspects to the other 9 planets, I don't know how to save the image since all the members here seem to like the charts on astro.com but whenever I upload one it gets expired short time after.
I used the site you sent me and this is the chart
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ho...&&tvar_ukazat=
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Old posts are before I got my birth certificate

I double checked my chart now and didn't find any aspects
to the other 9 planets,

I don't know how to save the image

since all the members here seem to like the charts on astro.com
but whenever I upload one it gets expired short time after.
then use instead the free chart calculator at
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology

and then

IF USING MOBILE TO ATTACH CHART

1) Once you generate the chart image using your favourite website, copy the image address

2) Upload the image to Imgur using the following URL:


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3) Once the chart is uploaded to Imgur, click on 'Copy' or 'Embed Post'

4) Paste the Imgur image location to forum post




or


IF USING DESKTOP TO ATTACH CHART


1) Once you generate the chart image using your favourite website, copy the image address

2) Click on the Attachment icon (if you don't see it, select 'Advanced' posting first)

3) New window will open, paste the image address, click Upload button, close the window


if that is for some reason not possible
then
another option is, after creating the natal chart
then save the chart to your desktop
then when on the thread click to edit your post
then scroll down to the Attach Files box
then click on Manage Attachments
and follow the instructions on the screen to upload your chart that way
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I used the site you sent me and this is the chart


https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ho...&&tvar_ukazat=
Thanks for clarifying that your chart time changed
after you found your birthcertificate
and that's good news you created an updated natal chart - thank you
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Old posts are before I got my birth certificate
I double checked my chart now

and didn't find any aspects to the other 9 planets
I used the site you sent me and this is the chart
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ho...&&tvar_ukazat=
The chart you posted which you say is based on your birth certificate time
definitely shows your natal Mercury is aspected
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The chart you posted which you say is based on your birth certificate time
definitely shows your natal Mercury is aspected
Can you tell the aspects mercury makes ? Aspects to nodes ?
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then use instead the free chart calculator at
https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/traditional-astrology

and then

IF USING MOBILE TO ATTACH CHART

1) Once you generate the chart image using your favourite website, copy the image address

2) Upload the image to Imgur using the following URL:


https://imgur.com/upload

3) Once the chart is uploaded to Imgur, click on 'Copy' or 'Embed Post'

4) Paste the Imgur image location to forum post




or


IF USING DESKTOP TO ATTACH CHART


1) Once you generate the chart image using your favourite website, copy the image address

2) Click on the Attachment icon (if you don't see it, select 'Advanced' posting first)

3) New window will open, paste the image address, click Upload button, close the window


if that is for some reason not possible
then
another option is, after creating the natal chart
then save the chart to your desktop
then when on the thread click to edit your post
then scroll down to the Attach Files box
then click on Manage Attachments
and follow the instructions on the screen to upload your chart that way
Thank you for showing me how to attach an Image but Anyone on this website knows how to attach a chart, so that's kind of obvious the thing is whenever I post a pic from astro.com it gets expired and you didn't help neither on the attachment issue nor the topic of the thread, you just said it is aspected but didn't say what are these aspects
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Thank you for showing me how to attach an Image
but Anyone on this website knows how to attach a chart, so that's kind of obvious

the thing is whenever I post a pic from astro.com it gets expired

and you didn't help neither on the attachment issue
or the topic of the thread, you just said it is aspected
but didn't say what are these aspects
I did help you to resolve the issue of expired images
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you just said it is aspected but didn't say what are these aspects
That's because aspects to your natal Mercury
are easily seen by viewing the chart
but if you have problems with finding those aspects
when viewing the natal chart you posted
then if you view the chart tables
that are shown on the site you used to create the natal chart
those chart tables state all the aspects
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That's because aspects to your natal Mercury
are easily seen by viewing the chart
but if you have problems with finding those aspects
when viewing the natal chart you posted
then if you view the chart tables
that are shown on the site you used to create the natal chart
those chart tables state all the aspects
Yes I saw the aspects table and it only says i have mercury sextile ASC and based on the definition of unaspected planets I quote " Unaspected planets, referred to as peregrine planets by Noel Tyl, are those planets in your natal chart that lack any Ptolemaic aspect (i.e. conjunction, sextile, square, trine or opposition) with any other planet. " https://hniizato.com/unaspected-planets/ ( insisting that ASC , MC and DC are not planets ) . Maybe you consider a planet with astroids aspects is no longer an unaspected planet ?
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Yes I saw the aspects table
and it only says
i have mercury sextile ASC
correct

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and based on the definition of unaspected planets
I quote
" Unaspected planets, referred to as peregrine planets by Noel Tyl,
are those planets in your natal chart that lack any Ptolemaic aspect
(i.e. conjunction, sextile, square, trine or opposition)
with any other planet. " https://hniizato.com/unaspected-planets/
( insisting that ASC , MC and DC are not planets ) .
Check whether you have any natal planets on the natal ASC
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Check whether you have any natal planets on the natal ASC
I have natal Pluto and moon there but not aspecting mercury.
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I have natal Pluto and
moon there but not aspecting mercury.

3rd of september 2000 11:23 am Tunis if you have time have a look please
I have viewed your updated chart that you posted
if you confirm the sign of your natal moon that would be helpful
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Aspects or No aspects are to other planets. Major aspects, not minor.

Mercury has many aspects.

Conjunct Sun - 10
Sextile Moon - 6
Square Jupiter -11<<

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Aspects or No aspects are to other planets. Major aspects, not minor.

Mercury has many aspects.

Conjunct Sun - 10
Sextile Moon - 6
Square Jupiter -11<<
Aren't those huge orbs and have a little effect ? 2 years now studying my own chart and purchasing readings never known i had mercury square jupiter or the other aspects , what is the maximum orb to not consider an aspect ?

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Aren't those huge orbs and have a little effect ?

2 years now studying my own chart

and purchasing readings


never known i had mercury square jupiter or the other aspects ,

what is the maximum orb to not consider an aspect ?
https://innerself.com/content/person...d-planets.html
Well now you got the information for FREE on our forum

TABLE OF THE MAXIMUM DISTANCE
AT WHICH PLANETS ARE IN ORB OF EACH OTHER
The emboldened figures use the most commonly accepted orb allowance.
The figures in normal type indicate a wider allowance accepted by some

https://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspectorbs.html
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Well now you got the information for FREE on our forum

TABLE OF THE MAXIMUM DISTANCE
AT WHICH PLANETS ARE IN ORB OF EACH OTHER
The emboldened figures use the most commonly accepted orb allowance.
The figures in normal type indicate a wider allowance accepted by some

https://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspectorbs.html
The problem is not about purchasing or having the information for FREE,the main thing is to have the right info, I visited the site you sent me and It doesn't make sense how wide the orb they consider in traditional astrology when actually : when people used traditional astrology they didn't even use the orbs and how tight the aspect is, we all know that the tighter the apect is the more power it will have, I read also the descriptions of the aspects the other member told me and didn't feel their presence( in comparison to my other tight aspects ex : Sun Square Pluto 1 ) , giving one interpretation and considering it true kind of absurd i can give you hundreds of sites including treads on this website we are using now telling you that wide orbs make an aspect inconsiderable.
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology_aspects.php
Kepler College wrote an article about this issue too.
https://keplercollege.org/courses/mo...&chapterid=212
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The problem is not about purchasing or having the information for FREE,

the main thing is to have the right info,
not unsurprisingly, astrologers tend to differ regarding opinions as to "the right info"

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I visited the site you sent me
and It doesn't make sense how wide the orb they consider in traditional astrology
when actually : when people used traditional astrology
they didn't even use the orbs and how tight the aspect is
we all know that the tighter the apect is the more power it will have
a study of ancient traditional HELLENISTIC astrology
reveals
that HELLENISTIC astrologers used ASPECTS BY SIGN
as well as
ASPECTS BY DEGREE
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I read also the descriptions of the aspects the other member told me and didn't feel their presence( in comparison to my other tight aspects ex : Sun Square Pluto 1 ) , giving one interpretation and considering it true kind of absurd i can give you hundreds of sites including treads on this website we are using now telling you that wide orbs make an aspect inconsiderable.
https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology_aspects.php
Kepler College wrote an article about this issue too.
https://keplercollege.org/courses/mo...&chapterid=212
you are entitled to your opinion
just as any astrologers who differe with you
are entitled to their opinion as well
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Aren't those huge orbs and have a little effect ? 2 years now studying my own chart and purchasing readings never known i had mercury square jupiter or the other aspects , what is the maximum orb to not consider an aspect ?

https://innerself.com/content/person...d-planets.html
I use wide orbs at the first look at a chart. I give Sun 17, Moon her 24-hour motion, and planets 10.

That way I don't overlook an important wide-orbed aspect.

Back in the day aspects were by sign, not degrees of separation.

Here's an example of why I begin examination of a chart allowing wide orbs...an actual chart.

Moon in Aquarius 9th in 13 applying opposition Saturn Leo 4th. [Note: Moon is received by Saturn, Saturn in exile in Moon's natural house. The opposition perfects in angular houses, gains prominence.]

I tell the native, "At age 13 your mother goes to a distant land, leaving you with heavy obligations in the home." The actual story: Mom abandoned the family, ran off to Canada with another man. The native was the eldest, had to assume the duties of mother.

I was told by other astrologers that I was using orbs so wide that I was including directed aspects. Not so. The Moon was swift and reached the aspect within 24 hours. And besides the event at age 13, all the usual character traits accompanied the aspect.

Had I not used the wide orb, I would have entirely missed a seminal event in the life. Abandonment by the mother brought what may have been latent inherent traits to life: distrust of females, feelings of isolation and abandonment, unfulfilled needs for emotional security and nurture...belonging. This was pertinent at the time of the interview because native and his wife were separated and heading for divorce.

In your chart, Mercury receives Jupiter...and the chart as a whole has few close aspects. So I allow the wide Mercury-Jupiter square.

Astrology allows for a creative approach.

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I would say that your Merc has important essential dignity by Sign, but is disengaged in the Natal-chart unless activated by transits and SRs.

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I use wide orbs at the first look at a chart. I give Sun 17, Moon her 24-hour motion, and planets 10.

That way I don't overlook an important wide-orbed aspect.


Back in the day aspects were by sign, not degrees of separation.


Here's an example of why I begin examination of a chart allowing wide orbs...an actual chart.

Moon in Aquarius 9th in 13 applying opposition Saturn Leo 4th. [Note: Moon is received by Saturn, Saturn in exile in Moon's natural house. The opposition perfects in angular houses, gains prominence.]

I tell the native, "At age 13 your mother goes to a distant land, leaving you with heavy obligations in the home." The actual story: Mom abandoned the family, ran off to Canada with another man. The native was the eldest, had to assume the duties of mother.

I was told by other astrologers that I was using orbs so wide that I was including directed aspects. Not so. The Moon was swift and reached the aspect within 24 hours. And besides the event at age 13, all the usual character traits accompanied the aspect.

Had I not used the wide orb, I would have entirely missed a seminal event in the life. Abandonment by the mother brought what may have been latent inherent traits to life: distrust of females, feelings of isolation and abandonment, unfulfilled needs for emotional security and nurture...belonging. This was pertinent at the time of the interview because native and his wife were separated and heading for divorce.
In your chart, Mercury receives Jupiter

...and the chart as a whole has few close aspects.
So I allow the wide Mercury-Jupiter square.
Astrology allows for a creative approach.

Interesting highlight that the chart as a whole has few close aspects
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