yes, agreed, and then, 2nd house is ruled by venus, that which we desire and use to attract it. jupiter in that house - opposing Moon in 8th (i want what someone else has and i'm going to use what i have to get it)
but thwarted, she didn't get it - overblown confidence or hope maybe.
and now she is demoralized
all that she had thought would turn out bonanza ended up like mud in her face.
i haven't even looked at mars and saturn yet.
but that's where i come from in this question.
how is an horary different from a natal chart in component and fact?
answer: how you view them.
(i'm glad you are open to dialogue about this D - because i have great respect for you when you are not putting me down for my readings).
peace fingers
I don't attempt to put you down on your readings Kitchy, its just that in many charts you don't seem to be applying
Horary principles, but rather some sort of mixed Natal type reading into the chart.
I think you are free to do as you please, as is anyone, but this usually hurts the argument for the querent with miss-directed applications for the chart that was cast. Not that it is with ill-intentions, I know everyone here is actually trying to help others.
Most people that ask for an Horary reading, do ask for readings based on Lilly's technique (containing the diversity of techniques by the different branches).
For example:
- You mention that
Venus rules the 2nd house. Taurus is ascribed as the natural ruler of the 2nd zoidon, traditionally known as the 2nd house, which would make that statement *sort* of valid from a theoretical point of view for a more Mundane type of astrological interpretation that does not involve a horoscope (ascendant)
- However in practice, the 2nd sign from the Ascendant and its ruler, would have rulership over the 2nd house, making the actual ruler of the 2nd house to be
Mercury, from an horoscopic point of view.
how is an horary different from a natal chart in component and fact?
answer: how you view them.
The birth chart describes the entire life of a Native, in which planets signify the events that occur in a native's life, while an Horary chart describes a situation in which the planets play the part of signifiers for the different objects.
(I remember tsmall once explained this in a very beautiful poetic fashion, I'll try to find her quote).
A lot of people that start with Horary usually have a hard time making the distinctions between Natal and Horary, and it is a common thing among users on this forum section. Usually most people start with Natal and then proceed to Horary, creating a difficult mixture of principles that shouldn't be applied in all cases. This is something that happens very often, it happened to me when I started with Horary. (this is actually the reason why tsmall and tikana might have wanted to start the horary class).
I do encourage you (as I do to everyone) to do get your hands on specific horary books/manuals, because you do seem to understand astrology very well (and you are also eager to help others) and you will probably be able to master Horary in no time.