It's not going to be too long now before Saturn exits his long period of exile through the signs of the luminaries, and enters Virgo, where he will still be peregrine for most of his journey, but at least he will get to recuperate some strength in his terms between 18 - 24 degrees.
What are your thoughts?
This will be the first time that Saturn has moved into a human sign since it left Gemini, representing the human collective, and the 911 twin towers disaster occured during that transit, and Saturn is structures.
Saturns passage into Virgo will bring his effect upon human females, and I wonder how this will pan out. I cannot imagine this being a good time for those women who have fertility problems and would be hoping to concieve, because both Saturn and Virgo are sterile, and Saturn was also very barren in Leo, but the effect will shift from wild beasts, to human females. This is particularly not good for those women hoping to concieve who have a Saturn ruled, or Virgo, on the fifth cusp, but this wouldn't be an ideal time for conception in general.
I do wonder if the birth rate dips during these periods? I suppose it ought to because it would make sense. I'll look into it.
Something I got thinking about regarding Saturn's passage into Virgo, is the whole 'size 0' model debate in the fashion industry. This has been a hot issue in the UK recently, and I think it has in the US as well, and perhaps other parts of the world. You see, Saturn is skeletal, and pertains to fasting, and Virgo being associated with women, particularly ideals of femininity, and because Virgo is associated with tailoring and the fashion industry, I cannot see this issue going away, and I think that the whole 'size 0' debate will intensify during this transit. The issue will really come into it's own at this time, and the controversy that we've had about it already is a prelude to this Saturnian transit through Virgo.
Another issue I've been reflecting upon regarding women's issues, is Muslim women, and the wearing of the veil, or the full body niqab, these women are symbols of Virgo if ever there was one! Now, there is a considerable Muslim population here in some parts of the UK, and many people in this country actually find the covering over of the face except for the eyes, intimidating, rude and offensive. Now, during Saturns transit in Leo, there was storming debate about this issue in the UK, and Saturn represents traditions, so with this debilitated Leo transit there has been many issues arising concerning peoples cultural identities and traditional values. I think the whole issue with veils and niqabs is very Saturnian, and very Virgoan, so this is also an issue that is not going to go away, and will come into it's own during Saturn's passage through Virgo, so I'll be keeping watch over this area.
I wonder about women's issues in conjunction with Islam, but also Catholicism.
Just at the end of this thread, the phrase 'Black Madonna' popped into my head, but I needed to find out what it was, and the Black Madonna is one of the most sacred icons in the Catholic church, so I wonder what will occur in this area of symbolism.
Black (Saturn) Madonna (Virgo)! you don't get much more Saturn in Virgo than that! With Saturn and Virgo both being so reserved, and with the associations with Islam and Catholicism, and considering these religions views on chastity and birth control, I can see these issues arising in storms, so women's issues in religion and in regard to sex, fertility, conception and birth control I can see being really in their element.
I have just thought, 'angel of death' - this is also a very Saturn in Virgo phrase that is in my head from my interest in true crime. 'Angel of death', is the term that tends to be used for a category of serial killer, where people in the medical profession, doctors or nurses, begin killing patients. Two examples are Dr. Harold Shipman, and paediatric nurse Beverly Allitt. I am not at all trying to imply that there will be a huge upsurge in serial killings in hospitals!
What I am saying is that 'angel of death' carries symbolism that is most Saturn in Virgo, and it might be interesting to bear in mind how such symbolism will come to bear out in the world.
Some images:
Size 0:
The Veil:
Angel of Death:
Black Madonna:
Your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
This will be the first time that Saturn has moved into a human sign since it left Gemini, representing the human collective, and the 911 twin towers disaster occured during that transit, and Saturn is structures.
Saturns passage into Virgo will bring his effect upon human females, and I wonder how this will pan out. I cannot imagine this being a good time for those women who have fertility problems and would be hoping to concieve, because both Saturn and Virgo are sterile, and Saturn was also very barren in Leo, but the effect will shift from wild beasts, to human females. This is particularly not good for those women hoping to concieve who have a Saturn ruled, or Virgo, on the fifth cusp, but this wouldn't be an ideal time for conception in general.
I do wonder if the birth rate dips during these periods? I suppose it ought to because it would make sense. I'll look into it.
Something I got thinking about regarding Saturn's passage into Virgo, is the whole 'size 0' model debate in the fashion industry. This has been a hot issue in the UK recently, and I think it has in the US as well, and perhaps other parts of the world. You see, Saturn is skeletal, and pertains to fasting, and Virgo being associated with women, particularly ideals of femininity, and because Virgo is associated with tailoring and the fashion industry, I cannot see this issue going away, and I think that the whole 'size 0' debate will intensify during this transit. The issue will really come into it's own at this time, and the controversy that we've had about it already is a prelude to this Saturnian transit through Virgo.
Another issue I've been reflecting upon regarding women's issues, is Muslim women, and the wearing of the veil, or the full body niqab, these women are symbols of Virgo if ever there was one! Now, there is a considerable Muslim population here in some parts of the UK, and many people in this country actually find the covering over of the face except for the eyes, intimidating, rude and offensive. Now, during Saturns transit in Leo, there was storming debate about this issue in the UK, and Saturn represents traditions, so with this debilitated Leo transit there has been many issues arising concerning peoples cultural identities and traditional values. I think the whole issue with veils and niqabs is very Saturnian, and very Virgoan, so this is also an issue that is not going to go away, and will come into it's own during Saturn's passage through Virgo, so I'll be keeping watch over this area.
I wonder about women's issues in conjunction with Islam, but also Catholicism.
Just at the end of this thread, the phrase 'Black Madonna' popped into my head, but I needed to find out what it was, and the Black Madonna is one of the most sacred icons in the Catholic church, so I wonder what will occur in this area of symbolism.
Black (Saturn) Madonna (Virgo)! you don't get much more Saturn in Virgo than that! With Saturn and Virgo both being so reserved, and with the associations with Islam and Catholicism, and considering these religions views on chastity and birth control, I can see these issues arising in storms, so women's issues in religion and in regard to sex, fertility, conception and birth control I can see being really in their element.
I have just thought, 'angel of death' - this is also a very Saturn in Virgo phrase that is in my head from my interest in true crime. 'Angel of death', is the term that tends to be used for a category of serial killer, where people in the medical profession, doctors or nurses, begin killing patients. Two examples are Dr. Harold Shipman, and paediatric nurse Beverly Allitt. I am not at all trying to imply that there will be a huge upsurge in serial killings in hospitals!
What I am saying is that 'angel of death' carries symbolism that is most Saturn in Virgo, and it might be interesting to bear in mind how such symbolism will come to bear out in the world.
Some images:
Size 0:
The Veil:
Angel of Death:
Black Madonna:
Your thoughts?
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