Is there a plan to deliberately reduce world population

AquariusT

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I thought this yesterday. On that full moon in Scorpio recently they announced in the USA that all women should STOP doing self breast exams and not get mammos until 50! :surprised: WTH!! Yes I believe they are.
 
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AquariusT

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Dear Neptun Rising and dear all,
nothing bad will hapen to us. As long as we optimistic Sagittarius exist on this planet and have our arrows on man kind enemyes whith our strong legs running and making sure that neither one enemy will run away, with our eyes turned up to the bright suny sky bringing you the light, you are all safe and can sleep quietly... Life is beautifull, the Sun is always shyning in the Sagittarius world and the good lucky Jupiter of ours isnt worth anything if we dont share him with the rest of you...
Sagittarius / pisces (with the Mars in the 1. - existing there only for the ``good purpose`` - how is that and why - because I say so - :) - tipically Sagittariusly expressed


Sweet. But Sags never contribute to problem solving..right? Just HOPE for the best. :lol:
 

waybread

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I can't see why Monsanto would want to limit the human population. The more mouths to feed, the more products they can sell, and the higher their profits.

See: http://www.monsanto.com . They're in the agricultural seed, GMO, and chemicals business.

I think they would like to control the world's food supply, however.
 

tikana

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welll

is there a plan? non astrology talk here - probably No..
but then a theory less people = more oxygen but that does not kill global warming problem... hmmm

interesting!

Pondering

Tik
 

DanaRenee

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Well, here is the thing Monsanto, Codex, and the FDA, are all in together, and they don't want to kill us all off per say, they just want to make us sick with the foods we eat, ie.... putting high frutose corm syrup in everything, which is subsided by the government. High amounts of sodium, and msgs, and additives, food coloring, hormones, and it is one of the reason that everyone is getting fat! So they make us sick enough to have to keep going to the doctors, and having to get medications which are a billion dollar industry for these people also linked to the pharmacuticals. Also who is behind the H1N1 vaccines, to create a deversion so that we will be worried about the swind flu and not knowing that they are meeting to get things passed.


If we were all healthy they would not make money!!! You can control the population by controlling the food, look at N. Korea, and they control their people by starving them.

Not to be sarcastic but groups like monsanto don't tell people what they are up to, so your not going to get them to put it on their website.:wink:

Monsanto is in to seeds but they control the seeds and it is all genetically altered seeds which you can not harvest and save for the next years planting, so there again they control what you plant and what you eat.
Just like our beef, chicken. pigs. sheep, they are all given steroids to make them fatter when they are butchered and we eat them and those hormones are not good for us, i mean come on why do you think little girls and some little boys are developing at earlier ages now, and i may be wrong on this, this is just my thought: i think that we are seeing such a high rate of depression, hormones can trigger depression. So I will ask the horary Will Codex get this passed by 12-09. So start getting stocked up on your vitamins and your seeds for your gardens!!!

Well this would be true with the sun (asc) being in the 4th house,
(towns, soil. gardens. orchards. hidden things in the ground) wow that is scarey, and the moon in the eighth house of death, now who can dispute this?

But would you use the 11th house cusp for societies? if so then the moon in the 10th house(authority) a angular house, which would make it true.
But then if you used the 10th house cusp, for authority, (venus) it is in house 7 also a angular house, so this would be true also. I think this is would be then true right? if so this is very scary!!!!
 

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DanaRenee

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This was forwarded to me from a friend and i don't have a link sorry:

Codex Alimentarius: Nutricide Will
Commence December 31, 2009

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]More and more people are becoming concerned about the shady, secretive organization that is Codex Alimentarius - the thinly-veiled propaganda arm of global conglomerates that does everything it can to control and limit individual options to maintain or increase health. [/FONT]
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Codex alimentarius is one of the major bodies behind the effort to limit access to nutritional products and information. Its motivation is not rocket science and neither is the source of its funding - money that somehow expected to return a profit to its members. Most of the information available regarding codex alimentarius refers to its role in the USA, but it is not a US-specific body. Far from it, Codex has wiggled its dirty little tentacles into just about every national or international body concerned with public health. Posing as a benefactor, it then uses its significant financial and political clout to do its masters bidding.
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Behind the Codex Alimentarius Commission is the United Nations and the World Health Organization working in conjunction with the multinational pharmaceutical cartel and international banks. Its initial efforts in the US with the FDA were defeated, so it found another ally in the FTC. Now Codex, with the FTC and the pharmaceutical cartel behind it, it threatens to become a trade issue, using the campaign of Operation Cure-All to advance its goals.
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Codex began in 1893 when the Austria-Hungarian empire decided it needed a specific set of guidelines by which the courts could rule on cases dealing with food. This regulatory set of mandates became known as Codex Alimentarius and was effectively implemented until the fall of the empire in 1918. The United Nations (UN) met in 1962 and decided that Codex should be re-implemented worldwide in order to protect health of the consumers. Two-thirds of funding for Codex emanates from the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) while the other third comes from the World Health Organization (WHO).

As the clock ticks toward the irrevocable implementation deadline of Codex on December 31, 2009, the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF) and its medical director, Dr. Rima Laibow, are feverishly working to change Codex guidelines.

Codex is the enemy of everyone except those who will profit from it, according to Dr. Laibow. She points to its association with those who committed crimes during the Nazi regime. At the end of World War II, the Nuremberg tribunal judged Nazis who had committed horrendous crimes against humanity and sentenced them to prison terms. One of those found guilty was the president of the megalithic corporation I.G. Farben, Hermann Schmitz. His company was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world, and had extraordinary political and economic power and influence with the Hitlerian Nazi state.
Farben produced the gas used in the Nazi gas chambers, and the steal for the railroads built to transport people to their deaths.
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While serving his prison term, Schmitz looked for an alternative to brute force for controlling people and realized that people could be controlled through their food supply. When he got out of prison, he went to his friends at the United Nations (UN) and laid out a plan to take over the control of food worldwide. A trade commission called Codex Alimentarius (Latin for food code) was re-created under the guise of it being a consumer protection commission. But Codex was never in the business of protecting people. It has always been about money and profits at the expense of people.
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The purpose, so they claimed, is to 'harmonize' regulations for dietary supplements worldwide and set international safety standards for the purposes of increased trade. In 2002, the FAO and WHO had serious concerns about the direction of Codex and hired an external consultant to determine its performance since 1962 and to designate which direction to take the trade organization. The consultant concluded that Codex should be immediately scrapped and eliminated. It was at this time that big industry realized the full monetary potential of this organization and exerted its powerful influence. The updated outcome was a toned down report asking Codex to address 20 various concerns within the organization.

Since 2002, the Codex Alimentarius Commission has covertly surrendered its role as an international public health and consumer protection organization. Pharmaceutical interests stepped in and began exerting their influence. Instead of focusing on food safety, Codex is using its power to promote worldwide restrictions on vitamins and food supplements, severely limiting their availability and dosages. Under the helm of big industry, the sole surreptitious purpose of the new codex is to increase profits for the global corporate juggernauts while controlling the world through food. The implicit understanding of their philosophy is that if you control food, you control the world.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The same institutions that have been set in place to safeguard the public are the very ones who foist unfair trade practices and unsafe foods upon humanity. This is to bring about international 'harmonization.' While global harmony sounds benign, is that the real purpose of this plan? While the stated goal of Codex is to establish unilateral regulations for dietary supplements in every country, the actual goal is to outlaw health products and information on vitamins and dietary supplements, except those under their direct control. These regulations would supersede domestic laws of every country without the voice of its citizens.[/FONT]
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There are 180 member countries, including such notables as Canada, the USA, every member state of the EU, Switzerland, Israel, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, China, Japan and Australia which have already signed agreements pledging total harmonization of their laws including food and drug laws to these international standards in the future.

Why is it Africans are starving when their governments ascribe to Codex Alimentarius? They are starving because their food is in Western shops for sale and not their own markets. Why are we drinking wines from Africa when those grapes could be dried into raisins and distributed to feed the children of Africa? Many Africans are starving because availability of indigenous hardy plant seeds is reduced and the prices of quality indigenous strains of seeds inflated.

Farmers in Africa and all over the non-western world are finding that GM and western plant seeds will not grow properly or at all, particularly when using the traditional farming methods in these areas. Crop failure equals starvation in many agrarian societies and GM crops have been a total failure for many poor farmers. The bottom line is they are starving because both governments and Codex Alimentarius are corrupt and serve not the public interest but the interest of the large multinational corporations, like Monsanto.

In the Western countries the influence of Codex Alimentarius and its corporate cronies is just as pervasive. In the USA more and more restrictive food laws are being passed as I write. A new bill introduced in the house of representatives, H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009, has ominous implications for organic farmers. It also threatens farmers’ ability to collect and store their own seeds as they have been doing for centuries. In addition, the American government’s refusal to label products containing GM foods means that any food product sold or exported from the USA can potentially contain GM ingredients.
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You may be exposing yourself to GM ingredients even when buying organic products. A recent study done by Professors Mark Partridge and Denis Murphy, at Glamorgan University in Wales, detected traces of GM ingredients in 10 of the 25 organic food samples tested. Professor Murphy stated, “We have recently observed that many soya products now carry ‘GM free’ or ‘organic’ labels, both of which imply an absence of GM ingredients in these foods. However, most of the soya now produced in the world comes from GM varieties.”
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Plants in non-GM crops are having their genetics affected by neighboring GM fields. Wind and insect borne cross-pollination is threatening many of the corn species in Mexico. GM pollen has also affected at least one man’s honey crop in Germany, causing him to dispose of his harvest and relocate his bees so they would not have access to GM plants.
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A wide variety of livestock are fed GM grains and then people eat the eggs, milk products and meat from these animals. If the grain does not need to be labeled GM, how can you be certain you are eating eggs, dairy and meat that are organic?
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On December 31, 2009, What Will Codex Bring To All Member Countries of the World Trade Organization (WTO)?


Keep in mind, that according to the projections of the WHO and the FAO, a minimum of 3 billion people will die from the Codex mandated vitamin and mineral guideline alone. Here are just a few of the guidelines Codex will implement:
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All nutrients (vitamins and minerals) that have any positive health impact on the body are to be considered toxins/poisons and are to be removed from all food because Codex prohibits the use of nutrients to "prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease"
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices). [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All advice on nutrition (including written online or journal articles or oral advice to a friend, family member or anyone) will be illegal. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The reintroduction of deadly and carcinogenic organic pesticides that in 1991, 176 countries (including the U.S.) have banned worldwide including 7 of the 12 worst at the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pesticides (e.g., Hexachlorobenzene, Toxaphene, and Aldrin) will be allowed back into food at elevated levels. All together, Codex allows over 3,275 different pesticides, including those that are suspected carcinogens or endocrine disrupters. There is no consideration of the long-term effects of exposure to mixtures of pesticide residues in food.
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin).
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water. [/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Mandatory use of growth hormones and antibiotics on all food herds, fish and flocks.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nutrients allowed will be limited to a Positive List developed by Codex which will include such beneficial nutrients like Fluoride (3.8 mg daily) developed from environmental waste. All other nutrients will be prohibited nationally and internationally to all Codex-compliant countries.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All food (including organic) is to be irradiated, removing all toxic nutrients from food (unless eaten locally and raw).
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated).
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
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  • [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Genetically modified food would be sold worldwide without labeling.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Monsanto, a member of Codex, will benefit greatly as production of genetically modified (GM) foods are stepped up and more GM plants are given the green light. Terminator seeds will be approved for international trade. GM food animals will also be on the way.

Codex poses a significant threat to the food supply, according to Dr. Robert Verkerk, founder and director of the Alliance for Natural Health. About 300 dangerous food additives that are mainly synthetic will be allowed under Codex, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, tartrazine, and more. Dr. Verkerk is particularly concerned that no consideration has been given to potential risks associated with long-term exposure to mixtures of additives.

According to John Hammell, a legislative advocate and the founder of International Advocates for Health Freedom (IAHF), here is what we have to look forward to:
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"If Codex Alimentarius has its way, then herbs, vitamins, minerals, homeopathic remedies, amino acids and other natural remedies you have taken for granted most of your life will be gone. The name of the game for Codex Alimentarius is to shift all remedies into the prescription category so they can be controlled exclusively by the medical monopoly and its bosses, the major pharmaceutical firms. Predictably, this scenario has been denied by both the Canadian Health Food Association and the Health Protection Branch of Canada (HPB).
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The Codex Alimentarius proposals already exist as law in Norway and Germany where the entire health food industry has literally been taken over by the drug companies. In these countries, vitamin C above 200 mg is illegal as is vitamin E above 45 IU, vitamin B1 over 2.4 mg and so on. Shering-Plough, the Norway pharmaceutical giant, now controls an Echinacea tincture, which is being sold there as an over the counter drug at grossly inflated prices. The same is true of ginkgo and many other herbs, and only one government controlled pharmacy has the right to import supplements as medicines which they can sell to health food stores, convenience stores or pharmacies."

The world’s food supply is under attack due to corrupt governments and organizations like Codex Alimentarius. This is most obvious in Africa, but the signs of encroaching food control can now be seen in almost every nation on Earth.
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It is now a criminal offence in parts of Europe to sell herbs as foods. An agreement called EEC6565 equates selling herbs as foods to selling other illegal drugs. Action is being taken to accelerate other European countries into 'harmonization' as well.

Paul Hellyer in his book, "The Evil Empire," states: "Codex Alimentarius is supported by international banks and multinational corporations including some in Canada, and is in reality a bill of rights for these banks and the corporations they control. It will hand over our sovereign rights concerning who may or may not invest in our countries to an unelected world organization run by big business. The treaty would make it impossible for Canadian legislators either federal or provincial to alter or improve environmental standards for fear of being sued by multinational corporations whether operating in Canada or not.
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This will create a world without borders ruled by a virtual dictatorship of the world's most powerful central banks and multinational companies. This world is an absolute certainty if we all sit on our hands and do nothing."

Dr. Rima Laibow MD,
from the Natural Solutions Foundation, educating people about how to stop Codex Alimentarius from taking away our right to freely choose nutritional health.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What Can You Do?

The only way to avoid such cataclysmic events are to fight with the dissemination of knowledge to everyone you know. It does not matter whether they are still asleep or hypnotized by the enslavement of daily life or too busy to pay attention -- the time to wake up is now!

Governments around the world and the collaborating media have been trying to distract us while all these egregious and mandatory standards are covertly passed. It is time to take action and you can do so by going to (www.healthfreedomusa.org) and following the latest updates on Codex. You can also sign a legal citizen's petition here: (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/ind...) .
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John Hammell's International Advocates for Health Freedom
website: http://www.iahf.com
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"The Health Movement Against Codex Alimentarius" - article from Dr. Rath's website
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'U.S. and European Leaders Agree on Principles to Harmonize Dietary Supplement Regulations: 'http://www.crnusa.org/shellnr112000.html
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Federal Register where the FDA states its intention to harmonize with Codex standards: http://iahf.com/codx-fda.txt
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Read, "WHOSE TRADE ORGANIZATION? Corporate Globalization and the Erosion of Democracy" by By Lori Wallach and Michelle Sforza,
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Public Citizens Global Trade Watch:

http://www.tradewatch.org/publications/wtobook.htm
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sign the petition - Click on 'Sign Health Freedom Petition:'

http://www.iahf.com/index2.html
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Also sign the European Anti-Codex petition at: www.laleva.cc
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For more information go to: http://www.campaignfortruth.com
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Neptune Rising

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Thank you for that information Dana.
Its quite chilling really to think they plan to do all that to us. Is the world really headed to that sort of fate?
I'm from the UK but dont really know how this Codex relates to the UK.
 

Neptune Rising

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I went to the Codex website, and looking through their list of food standards, found aspartame, hydrochloric acid amongst other things on the food additives they recommend... http://www.codexalimentarius.net/gsfaonline/additives/details.html?id=178

even going to far to say they will put aspartame in rolled oats! I love porridge for breakfast in the winter because its one of the most natural things I can have, all the other cereals in the shops are packed with additives. If they have their way I can forget eating natural products, its almost like being force fed!
 
Dear Neptun Rising and dear all,
nothing bad will hapen to us. As long as we optimistic Sagittarius exist on this planet and have our arrows on man kind enemyes whith our strong legs running and making sure that neither one enemy will run away, with our eyes turned up to the bright suny sky bringing you the light, you are all safe and can sleep quietly... Life is beautifull, the Sun is always shyning in the Sagittarius world and the good lucky Jupiter of ours isnt worth anything if we dont share him with the rest of you...
Sagittarius / pisces (with the Mars in the 1. - existing there only for the ``good purpose`` - how is that and why - because I say so - :) - tipically Sagittariusly expressed


IM a sagittarius.. with pisces rising.. mars in 1st house n aries.. n moon in scorpio..! maybe we r alike n like u i have no fear of the unfolding events soon to take place.. i got my strong legs ready n my arrows pointed n light shining down on my oh so optimistic love of life n beauti
 

JUPITERASC

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Thank you for that information Dana.
Its quite chilling really to think they plan to do all that to us. Is the world really headed to that sort of fate?
I'm from the UK but dont really know how this Codex relates to the UK.
Certainly there are some interesting views on this question and it is important to consider all opinions :smile:

Here's just one opinion from Webster Tarpley entitled "Globalist Plan: World Population Reduction to 1 Billion (June 2011)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6YSgSkMzGc
 
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