starlink said:
Hello Frisiangal! I also read that Neptune rules the immune system or at least is connected with auto-immune illnesses. When the 12th house is being "attacked", the body seems to loose the capacity to recognize it's own structures and destroys them. In the 12th house we are the most vulnerable and negative thoughts can lead to the collapse of our defense system.
The functions of the mamal gland which makes T-lymfocytes, necessary for the immunity, are connected with the 12th house and it's rulers Neptune and Jupiter. I found this in a book about medical astrology written by Dr. Margaret Millard.
Hi Starlink,
I have Millard's 'Casenotes of a Medical Astrologer', which I dug out again after reading your post. I remember the difficulty I had reading it first time many years back because of her saying, 'forget all the old ideas regarding rulerships', as if her findings were the new dictated laws to be followed. I don't know if this is the book to which you refer.
Without the time to study the chart examples again for proof, I did, however, find the reference you state above regarding the T-lymfocytes, Neptune and Jupiter, which was mentioned in her description of the 12th house. I guess it depends upon how one reads the words;
necessary for immunity may not mean the immune system itself, just as the brakes system is necessary for a car but isn't the complete car, if you understand my meaning.
Carole wrote:
I tend to blend what I learn from the vedic medical astrology with the western medical astrology and see if I can apply it and use it with people I treat. Of course, I am far from being an expert in this field, but in the books and a few articles I've read about vedic, Pisces is considered to rule allergies, lymph glands and immune system besides the feet.
I'm not even a qualified novice in Medical astrology.
I've never studied vedic astrology and wonder if this is the explanation regarding differences in rulerships where dis-ease is concerned; the gradual mingling of eastern with western astrology. Every chart I look at is perceived through western teachings, so whenever I read of something totally different, any knowledge I possess is in need of a tune up! It is NOT criticism, believe me, but a seeking of answers.
I read something really interesting once. It was about the link between negative emotions and the different illnesses.
This is my whole perceptive viewpoint from what I was taught regarding what I prefer to call Health rather than Medical astrology. I would stake my life upon the fact that suppressed emotional/psychical disorders find their outlet through physical complaints, and
IF a person can be made aware of 'the where' a predisposition towards a physical complaint lies if they don't deal with the negative spiral then all dis-ease could be banished. Very Utopian, I know. I haven't yet found a philosophy (natal Taurus Sun in 9th) that answers the why of complaints from birth. I suspect it's a path that leads beyond my concern with only the NOW of conscious life
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I remember that heart conditions, back and joints ailments were being related to anger and impatience. And allergies (both respiratory and skin) were related to jealousy and possessiveness. It was truly interesting because my eldest daughter (who is a Leo) has suffered from tachycardia episodes and back and joint pain. One of my sisters suffers from skin and respiratory allergies (she is a Virgo) and I suffer a severe respiratory allergy as well. In our case this theory seems to be proven
Was this correlation from the vedic perspective?
From a tropical astrology viewpoint, may I also ask if the heart and back (Leo and Aquarius related) and joints (Gemini) ailments arose from a difficulty within the person to express their individuality in everyday life in the manner they desired? As if no one was interested in or wanted to hear (Gemini) their side of things? They didn't 'join in', had difficulty coping with a(ny) change of ideas, kept themselves apart? Difficulties or concern for the father.
My now 31 yr. old son-in-law is a dear. At 21, he had to be treated for a back hernia. I asked his mum for his birth data. A Libra Sun opp. Chiron, with Moon in Taurus T-square Saturn in Leo-Uranus in Scorpio. I thought it very coincidental that it followed a time when his father's health was deteriorating (Parkinson's) and their farm had to be sold because the eldest son didn't want to take it over. My s-i-l, a farmer in heart and soul, would have dearly loved to have taken it over but didn't have the funds to do so. Its sale and concern for his dad not only broke his heart but broke his spirit for a while as well.
In a very early post in this thread I mentioned the association of Virgo and aggravational emotional reactions to 'substances' outside themselves, meaning not pollen etc., but people and events! Mercury's adjoining influence with respirational problems; not speaking up or out, say what is one's mind, etc.
My youngest daughter was physically abused as a teenager. She can't let it go. It's become her 'private demon'. She has Mars-conjunct Uranus in Scorpio opposing 8th house MEAN Black Moon Lilith, and suffers regularly from acute ( Uranus) bladder (traditionally Scorpio ruled) infections (Mars)....the most recent exactly coinciding with Mars's return. She also has Moon in Virgo and suffers from pollen and pine tree allergy. I've wondered if the latter is associated with the place the abuse took place that has become impregnated upon her mind.
F.