Forgotten Warrior
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I believe it can be Scorpio or Capricorn IC,or important aspects to Saturn and Pluto(especially to the Moon or Sun).Or heavy Saturnian/Plutonian influence.
What do you think?
What do you think?
I believe it can be Scorpio or Capricorn IC,or important aspects to Saturn and Pluto(especially to the Moon or Sun). Or heavy Saturnian/Plutonian influence.
What do you think?
She wants to protect you,but she doesn't realize she's controlling you...It also depends on her chart,though.I have older parents and my mom was always stricter on me than my siblings. I'm the youngest so I was probably the 'last chance to get it right' lmao! and the only girl!
I have Saturn in my first along with Jupiter and Pluto at 24 degrees. I have IC Cap with Mars ........Mars square pluto. My mom controlled me and protected me too. I still have to remind her that she's controlling me lol and then she backs off. Despite this we have a great relationship!
Reading your thread, for me personally, the older parents must be having Cap IC. Does anyone else have any ideas. Saturn in the first opposite DC can give you a mature partner but not sure about parents..
She wants to protect you,but she doesn't realize she's controlling you...It also depends on her chart,though.
Mainly Capricorn IC & Scorpio IC/Saturn or Pluto on the IC or 4th house as it deals with parents...
What's the difference between a planet on an angular point(Asc,MC)and a planet on a angular house(1st,4th,7th,10th),anyway?Just curious.
What about my Pluto in 4th (21' Libra) conjunct IC (3' Libra)...opposite Venus in 7' Aries? Does it indicate a strong, smothering and stubborn mother figure? Note Venus represents the sign of Taurus and it happens to be her sun sign... also the ruler of Libra.
Yes,this strongly indicates a Venusian-like mother,but I believe she's showing its(Venus') negative traits more often because of Pluto in the 4th (and Aries Venus to a certain extent),and she mostly shows them in the family,even getting acknowledged for them for the relatives.
This is your chart,but it can also show the relationship with your parents.
Of course,a synastry chart will show much more,as it takes account of many aspects.
Isn't the orb way too big for Pluto to conjunct IC?Pluto is at 21° Libra,IC is at 3 degrees of the same sign.Maybe I'm just wrong,so correct me if you feel like it.
18* is too wide, it may indicate a different level of strictness and seriousness she has for me as her son. I read my 29 degree Leo/Aquarius nodes indicates the type of people I would relate the best with. My Mom's best family friends were similarly Pisces sun (same year, different birth dates Feb 22-husband and Mar 2, 1963-wife with different moon signs: Cap/Aqua cusp for husband and Gemini/Cancer for the wife, and rising sign is Leo my opposite cusp Virgo their sun sign opposite). Knowing my own father, the husband was a better male role model to me and the wife was my special ed. teacher in elementary school when she met my Mom. I love my parents, but I wish they weren't hard on me and themselves: Sagittarius father (Dec 17, 1946) with Libra moon and Aries ASC.
Sun and Moon are the natural Father/Mother. Moon is always a reliable indicator of Mother.
In my personal chart, Placidus, Moon is intercepted Libra 4th. She habitually isolated herself in her bedroom and wrote poetry. We were not in touch (interception...the intercepted sign is "out of touch" with house cusps). The astrological picture is vivid.
For the Father I usually consult both Sun and Saturn (father in role of authority, restraint, preparation for life in "the real world".)
The 4-10 axis is the parental axis. A long time ago I attended an astrological convention, and one of the lectures was titled "Planets on the Angles". When the speaker came to Neptune on the 4th Angle (present in my chart) she said "Mama was a space cadet." I laughed so hard I cried.
Saturn, in my experience, is important in understanding the relationship with Father. Not just aspects, but sign and house position, motion (dir. or rx), general strength, etc. must all be examined. The Sun must not be ignored.
The signs of Cancer-Capricorn have to do with "parenting" energies. Planets in those signs signify. If Cancer, for example, rises, you might expect a "mother complex" of some sort; a deep and vital attachment to the mother, for good or ill. Remember, the whole life is depicted at the Ascendant.