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Re: Progressed Natal Chart vs Natal Chart

You need always to load your transits and progressions onto the natal chart as they are triggered off by that. Never separate them out as so many seem to be doing.

THen you can see what aspects are valid as they have to be represented in the natal chart as well. So a double or triple whammy which guarantees that the events will happen or whatever situation is promised.
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Re: Progressed Natal Chart vs Natal Chart

You might try to combine transits and progressions and keep a diary about what happens in your life, but generally with these two prognostication methods "each part is sold separately."

Probably you are working with secondary progressions. Although there are other kinds, this is the most common one. You can either do an entire progressed chart, which progresses your house cusps as well as planets; or you can show progressed planets around the perimeters of your natal chart. Both methods have interpretive value.

With secondary progressions a year of your life is set equal to a day on an ephemeris. So a 30-year old person would find his sun has progressed to the position it was in 30 days after his birth. The other planets would progress to their positions on the 30 day mark, which normally would be either slower or faster than the sun.

Another method called solar arcs basically progresses everything as "a year equals a day." Here all of the planets for a 30-year old would be 30 degrees past their natal positions. Some astrologers think this is a superior method for timing events.

A good book on transits is Robert Hand, Planets in Transit.

Basically your birth chart is the basic road map. Progressions indicate how you are growing and changing on your journey; and transits indicate more external events affecting your trip. However, this is not hard-and-fast, and the two work synergistically.
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Re: Progressed Natal Chart vs Natal Chart

I'd suggest you just look at transits with respect to your natal chart. At Astrodienst (www.astro.com) on their free charts pages, you can make a natal chart that shows both transits and progressions around the perimeter of your chart.

By the age of 25, your planets will not have progressed a whole lot, but it appears that your sun has changed signs, your Venus has gone retrograde, and Mars has changed sign and house. The progressed moon makes a circuit about every 28-29 years. The outer planets move so slowly that there is usually not much point tracking their progressions.
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Again -Thank You for Your replies I'm trying really hard to get all this information organised. I set up astrology diary : )

What still confuses me is which Houses should I use to interpret transits which I find on http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/prev ( they're not progressed ) ...

This is my current chart : http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...ge-u1279526556

Few planets changed their way of expression and houses : ) For transits aspecting my Venus should I use 4th or 3rd house ?

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your chart has expired and therefore no one can view to advise you

progressed planets/charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”

http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm


The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14561

Re: Need some education: Which charts to use when?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17514

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http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=154469&postcount=10
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