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help with chart rectification

  1. if my natal planets located in the 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th houses of horoscope can i use it to rectification? i think i can because it close the angles of the horoscope: MC/IC/Asc/Des
  2. what its mean when sun and mercury conjunct the ASC if it happen before age 9?
  3. what its mean when moon conjunct IC if it happen before age 16?
  4. what its mean when mars conjunct ASC if it happen between age 12 to 26?
  5. what its mean when jupiter conjunct MC if it happen between age 17 to 34?
  6. what its mean when venus conjunct ASC if it happen between age 5 to 16?
  7. what its mean when saturn conjunct Des if it happen between age 16 to 30?
  8. what its mean when uranus conjunct Des if it happen between age 8 to 22?
9. what its mean when neptun conjunct Des if it happen before age 10


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Rectification with solar arc

I were born in 4 July 1987 in 21N32'19'' 39E10'21'' +3 GMT Mosccow
baghdad time zone between 5:10 AM TO 6:10 AM (local time)

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Re: help with chart rectification

It be most helpful to ‘post’ their charts (rather than data), for others to comment on as we are all visual. For help on how to do this, go here http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126

Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almight explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs

Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.

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Re: help with chart rectification

When i correct my birthtime with my self i find my birthtimw was in 5:50:45 AM (Local time) ,also when i use the automatic rectification by antares 7.5 system i find my birth time at 5:49:12 am and i think that is power more than 5:34 like you say because at 5:50 , the sun and mercury conjunct exact the Asc that its mean when any one have this chart the other person see this human an arrogant and very intelligent ,and this is a strong signal that the person is a left-handed ( arabic astrology)
can i ask you some question?
1. why i am a gay?
2. why i am a left-handed?
3. why i am not have religion , i change my religion this year i was muslim but i think i dont to need any religin .
sory about my bad English
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Re: help with chart rectification

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you think i was born at any time?
in my birth certificate there written i was born close 6:00 am
can you find the seconds about my birth time! sory i am very punctual , accurate i dont know how i can say that by english i use the translator to continuity with you
can you give me the Sirius rectification program?
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so
you think i was born at any time?
in my birth certificate there written i was born close 6:00 am
can you find the seconds about my birth time! sory i am very punctual , accurate i dont know how i can say that by english i use the translator to continuity with you
can you give me the Sirius rectification program?
1. why i am a gay?
2. why i am a left-handed?
3. why i am not have religion , i change my religion this year i was muslim but i think i dont to need any religin .

Astrology cannot answer most of your questions, it does not differenciate between being a prince, king or pauper. Think you have unrealistice expectations of what astrology can and cannot do.

Again I quote, "Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc."

Transiting Mars and mercury are very noticeable when crossing the Ascendant, so make a diary note when that happens with an ephemeris.
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/jun2009gmt.shtml
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Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC .......
I know that it solar arcs is very easy but what it meaning when
  1. what its mean when sun and mercury conjunct the ASC if it happen before age 9?
  2. what its mean when moon conjunct IC if it happen before age 16?
  3. what its mean when mars conjunct ASC if it happen between age 12 to 26?
  4. what its mean when jupiter conjunct MC if it happen between age 17 to 34?
  5. what its mean when venus conjunct ASC if it happen between age 5 to 16?
  6. what its mean when saturn conjunct Des if it happen between age 16 to 30?
  7. what its mean when uranus conjunct Des if it happen between age 8 to 22?
8.what its mean when neptun conjunct Des if it happen before age 10?

because in my natal chart uranus ,neptun and saturn located in the 6th house , venus located in the 12th house , sun and mercury in 1st house , moon in the 4th and jupiter in the 10th........ i am no asling about pluto because it in the first houst and so far close angels
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are there a program helping in rectification?
please i need find my birth time and my English very bad to read book about rectificaion... why no body help me?
Why you Europeans too harsh?
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Re: help with chart rectification

I don't think it's about anyone being "harsh," peacebird; chart rectification is a very complicated and time-consuming process, and few members of the forum have expertise in this area. Also, the forum rules require members to make an effort at chart interpretation--or in this case, rectification--instead of blindly asking others to help them.

I would start by using Astrodienst to cast your natal chart and then use the Extended Features to create several charts for each date you have, or simply select the feature that says transits, progressions, solar arcs combined. From my limited understanding of chart rectification, you look for "hits" to the angles and adjust your natal chart accordingly.

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are there a program use automatic rectification like antares 7.5 or JIGSAW? when i used those program i find it so bad
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are there a program use automatic rectification like antares 7.5 or JIGSAW? when i used those program i find it so bad
If and when you have a basic understanding of astrology you can answer these questions yourself very simply
  1. what its mean when sun and mercury conjunct the ASC if it happen before age 9? Was a sibling born? did your ego become more visible?
  2. what its mean when moon conjunct IC if it happen before age 16? Relocate with family, ie: move house?
  3. what its mean when mars conjunct ASC if it happen between age 12 to 26? Too wide an age difference, around 12move house, age 26, competative, sporty, egotistical?
  4. what its mean when jupiter conjunct MC if it happen between age 17 to 34? Again to wide an orb, travel, higher education, expansion?
  5. what its mean when venus conjunct ASC if it happen between age 5 to 16? Age 5 poss sibling, age 16 first love?
  6. what its mean when saturn conjunct Des if it happen between age 16 to 30? Des = other people, age 16 poss break in relationship, or a relationship becoming more serious
  7. what its mean when uranus conjunct Des if it happen between age 8 to 22? Uranus is the planet of disruptions, upheavals and freedom, you tell us what happened?
8.what its mean when neptun conjunct Des if it happen before age 10? Neptune is the great dissolver, deception, illnesses, disappearances, sacrifices, rose tinted glasses

I say again probably everything under age 12 happens to family, not necessarily yourself.

No substitute for study and research, have you read and followed the links I gave you??
http://www.frankstar.com/solararc.htm
http://thezodiac.com/arcs.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/solar_arc_directions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression
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Re: help with chart rectification

Upload Antares 7.5 program without give me money to pay it
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The demo-version
http://astrology.org.ua/ant-en.htm
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If and when you have a basic understanding of astrology you can answer these questions yourself very simply
  1. what its mean when sun and mercury conjunct the ASC if it happen before age 9? Was a sibling born? did your ego become more visible?
  2. what its mean when moon conjunct IC if it happen before age 16? Relocate with family, ie: move house?
  3. what its mean when mars conjunct ASC if it happen between age 12 to 26? Too wide an age difference, around 12move house, age 26, competative, sporty, egotistical?
  4. what its mean when jupiter conjunct MC if it happen between age 17 to 34? Again to wide an orb, travel, higher education, expansion?
  5. what its mean when venus conjunct ASC if it happen between age 5 to 16? Age 5 poss sibling, age 16 first love?
  6. what its mean when saturn conjunct Des if it happen between age 16 to 30? Des = other people, age 16 poss break in relationship, or a relationship becoming more serious
  7. what its mean when uranus conjunct Des if it happen between age 8 to 22? Uranus is the planet of disruptions, upheavals and freedom, you tell us what happened?
8.what its mean when neptun conjunct Des if it happen before age 10? Neptune is the great dissolver, deception, illnesses, disappearances, sacrifices, rose tinted glasses
Thank you for help

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What its mean when Uranus conjunct Des if it happen between age 17 to 21?
Tell me about the all possibilities about this
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I have answered this in item no.7 why don't you tell us what happened between those ages?

There is no substitute for study and research, you have to put the effort in for yourself. I use 'astrocalc' software program, but it's not the software that will rectify your chart/time, it's you. You have to be 'objective'

The ages you gave and questions you ask are very wide, ie;between 8-21 is massive. First read up and study the Ascendant sign qualities, cos you will identify with the right one. Remember Cancer, Leo and Virgo are very common Asc signs cos they get 4 - 4.5hours each and are signs of long ascension. Aquarius and Pisces in contrast get 30-40minutes.

There is NO simple answer to rectifying your birth chart and many people have struggled for years doing this.

When you believe to have the correct Asc sign, make a note of when Transiting Mars and mercury will cross the Asc because they are usually very noticeable and watch what happens at that time
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/apr2009gmt.shtml

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Thanks for the links, however you cannot install the same program twice -you can only have demo or full - only one or the other. Also I cannot even get past the installation windows if I cannot read or understand what I am supposed to click on. Even then I don't think I can manage in another language.
this is an arabic copy of Antares 7.5
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What about Solar Fire, how do you make it work after downloading? What program do you need to unzip? Winzip does not recognise the format.
copy the two files inside the crack folder and placed it in the main program folder the that contains the files out the message Do you want to replace the file and approved the replacement, then click the program icon within the folder and send work to the desktop if I wanted to have Psar registered and ready for action

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I have also downloaded Jigsaw but then it asks for a valid password and of course I do not have that.
here is JIGSAW
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Can you tell me if you know your birth cerificate time is accurate?
I was born in 4 july 1987 21N32'19'' 39E10'21'' time zone +3 middle east
between 5:10 am to 6:00 am but but in my cerficate birth written i was born close 6:00 am
those program (antares. solar fire, jigsaw) it work with me without need to a key,why it did not work with you?
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There is NO simple answer to rectifying your birth chart and many people have struggled for years doing this

When you believe to have the correct Asc sign, make a note of when Transiting Mars and mercury will cross the Asc because they are usually very noticeable and watch what happens at that time
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/apr2009gmt.shtml
i dont understand any thing
please speak slowly
did you mean if I give you my

Date and hour of birth
and give you information about me you will rectify my birthtime?
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what its mean when mars conjunct ASC if it happen between age 12 to 26?....... .......... competative..........
can competative also mean Struggle with the disease?
because when i was at age 16 the doctor tell me i had Hodgkin's cancer at the year i think i was competative with cancer...( i dont know how can i say that by english) i was written here:
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12. At age 16 year i was bad health i had cancer Hodgkin's
13. a small surgery operation in my neck to take sample of lymph nodes in 18 Jan 2004 at 9 AM
14.The first meeting of the treatment of cancer of the lymph glands in 28 Apr 2004 at 8 AM ,in the night of that day i was going to ER in hospital ,its the first time in my life i was going to the ER
15.the last meeting of the treatment of cancer of lymph glands in 29 Sep 2004
16.in 11 Oct 2004 the doctor tell me i am finished the tratment
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Where is your natal chart? why don't you trust or believe the time on your birth certificate?
It be most helpful to ‘post’ their charts (rather than data), for others to comment on as we are all visual. For help on how to do this, go here http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126
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Where is your natal chart? why don't you trust or believe the time on your birth certificate?
It be most helpful to ‘post’ their charts (rather than data), for others to comment on as we are all visual. For help on how to do this, go here http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126
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Where is your natal chart?
this is my natal chart( i used equal house because you use equal house)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...1&d=1245256531image.jpg

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why don't you trust or believe the time on your birth certificate?
Because in my birth certificate (labour and delivery summary)
Written in that paper:
complete cervical dil at 5:10 AM
delivery of infant at 6:00 AM
delivery of placenta at 6:01 AM
but i sure that is wrong because i am the 13th baby of my mother that is could be if the complete cervical dil was at 5:10 AM must be delivey of infant between 5:15 to 5:10 ,because if the mother had a baby before ,the second stage (delivery of infant) usually take between 20 to 45 minutes...
and there was another wrong: if the delivery of placenta was at 6:01 AM delivery of infant must be before 5 to 15 minutes not before 1 minutes written as that is mean between 5:46 to 5:54 AM
I think when the midwife written (complete cervical dil) at 5:10 maybe she was mean the beginning of the last stage of cervical dil when the cervix dilates from 8 to 10 cm not exact when the cervix complete or she mean at 5:50 if she look to a classic wristwatch
and i think were the midwife written the delivery of placenta at 6:01 AM maybe she was mean 6:10 am or 6:05 if she look to a classic wristwatch
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Hi,
I find the youtube clip on how to rectify birth times using solar arcs very helpful. But I'm just curious about something... In the clip she moves the planets to the angles, but don't the angles also move in solar arcs?

Therefore how can you tell if a planet is a few degrees before or after an angle? For example, say someone experiences the death of someone close to them at 5 years old and you can see Pluto is near the Asc....how do you know whether Pluto is in the 12th, 5 degrees before the Asc or if it's in the 1st, 5 degrees after the Asc? Because in the 1st case Pluto would have solar arced to the Asc and in the second case, the Asc would have solar arced to Pluto, which would have the same meaning more or less.
Can anyone explain this?
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Hi,
I find the youtube clip on how to rectify birth times using solar arcs very helpful. But I'm just curious about something... In the clip she moves the planets to the angles, but don't the angles also move in solar arcs?

Therefore how can you tell if a planet is a few degrees before or after an angle? For example, say someone experiences the death of someone close to them at 5 years old and you can see Pluto is near the Asc....how do you know whether Pluto is in the 12th, 5 degrees before the Asc or if it's in the 1st, 5 degrees after the Asc? Because in the 1st case Pluto would have solar arced to the Asc and in the second case, the Asc would have solar arced to Pluto, which would have the same meaning more or less.
Can anyone explain this?
Physically you can 'see' with your eyes if a planet is in 12th house or 1st... Also move/solar arc Angles anti clockwise ONTO planets in 1st house has same effect as solar arcing pluto from 12th to Asc

Yes very similar meanings, so you would have to look at another indicator or planet or angle to rectify matters. Also keep close eye on ephemeris for T Merc and T Mars crossing Asc and I find them very useful for days of action (mars) and communications (merc)
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The chart you posted has MC as same Degree as Ascendant, which I find very unsual here. Can you possibly post your chart from www.astro.com please it's FREE and clearly visible.

Just looking at and working with the chart you have posted, it clearly has Sun & mercury conj 3' away from Ascendant which could suggests more siblings born when you were Age 3???

Under age 12ish most solar arcs relate to family conditions, house moves, sibling being born, people dying, parents poss losing a job. Lots of things..

What degree is MC for 6.0am chart your posted please?
When you move solar arc Moon to IC suggests a 'house move' for family.
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It be most helpful to ‘post’ their charts (rather than data), for others to comment on as we are all visual. For help on how to do this, go here http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126

Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almight explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs

Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.
OH HOW COOL! I just rectified my own and my mom's birthdays!

Thanks, Astrologer50!
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