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So 1 week ago I met one old professor in field of law (I am student of law faculty). It was just random talk and than he told me that if I want job I should call him, so he promised that he will help in terms of law job me and give me his contacts. I am really interested if this contact will bring me benefit and I really can start working in the law field, because its very hard to find something in foreign country. I did not reply back yet, because I want to get to know his publications first. What do u think?


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Sometimes an entry-level job is worth pursuing: not because it pays well, but because it gives you experience and contacts for networking. When you ask "Will my contact be profitable?" I assume you mean, will it pay well.

It's hard to say which house would represent a professor's contacts, so I used the generic 7th house. Money from such a contact would be an 8th house matter (2nd house from the 7th.) (We could also use the 10th house for a professor, and his contacts would be the 11th from the 10th, or radix 8th house.) Or we could look at your 2nd house. Whichever way I look at this, Mars and Venus are the major significators.

Mars in Gemini is lacking essential dignity. Venus (you) is exalted in Pisces, so you do have some strength. Venus receives Mars, which is in its own triplicity in her sign of Pisces, so you seem to be receptive to the offer. Venus has passed its aspect (a square) with Mars. However, the moon (your emotional stake in the matter) makes an exact square with Mars. The square suggests contact, but either the matter not working out well, or happening only with difficulties.

I don't think it would hurt to follow through on the professor's offer of assistance, but I wouldn't suggest getting your hopes up too high.
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hey, thanks for answering <3 no, i dont mean the material profitability. I just want to know if I really can get a job or internship, with profitability I mean if this contact really gives me a chance and if its a reall offer...
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So 1 week ago I met one old professor in field of law (I am student of law faculty). It was just random talk and than he told me that if I want job I should call him, so he promised that he will help in terms of law job me and give me his contacts. I am really interested if this contact will bring me benefit and I really can start working in the law field, because its very hard to find something in foreign country. I did not reply back yet, because I want to get to know his publications first. What do u think?
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Sometimes an entry-level job is worth pursuing: not because it pays well, but because it gives you experience and contacts for networking. When you ask "Will my contact be profitable?" I assume you mean, will it pay well.

It's hard to say which house would represent a professor's contacts, so I used the generic 7th house. Money from such a contact would be an 8th house matter (2nd house from the 7th.) (We could also use the 10th house for a professor, and his contacts would be the 11th from the 10th, or radix 8th house.) Or we could look at your 2nd house. Whichever way I look at this, Mars and Venus are the major significators.

Mars in Gemini is lacking essential dignity. Venus (you) is exalted in Pisces, so you do have some strength. Venus receives Mars, which is in its own triplicity in her sign of Pisces, so you seem to be receptive to the offer. Venus has passed its aspect (a square) with Mars. However, the moon (your emotional stake in the matter) makes an exact square with Mars. The square suggests contact, but either the matter not working out well, or happening only with difficulties.

I don't think it would hurt to follow through on the professor's offer of assistance, but I wouldn't suggest getting your hopes up too high.
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hey, thanks for answering <3 no, i dont mean the material profitability. I just want to know if I really can get a job or internship, with profitability I mean if this contact really gives me a chance and if its a reall offer...
I'm no expert - and astrological opinions tend to vary

so would be useful if you would say
what in your view the significators for your question are
once we establish that
then we can read the chart
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Frankly speaking I dont know, well my sign is venus I am sure, and I dont know which house is for professor, I saw him only once and we had just proffesional talking. for career maybe second house and ninth house, because right now i study law in a foreign country

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Frankly speaking I dont know, well my sign is venus I am sure, and
I dont know which house is for professor, I saw him only once and we had just proffesional talking.

for career maybe second house and ninth house, because right now i study law in a foreign country
for career it's 10th house
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html
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Assigning Significators in Horary
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horary1a.html

  • The person who asks the question is called the querent.
  • The querent is always primarily signified by the planet that rules the ascendant.
  • The condition of the 1st house, any planets in the 1st house
  • and the Moon will also help to describe the querent and his or her circumstances.

  • The person or issue asked about is called the quesited.
  • It is described by the house that naturally governs that matter
  • and it is signified by the planet that rules the cusp of that house.
  • Again, you will want to consider any other planets located in that house
  • as offering further descriptive information, but
  • you only have one main significator for the quesited, and
  • that is the planetary ruler of the sign on the cusp.

  • The Moon is a general significator for the whole situation.
  • It may be helping to represent the querent
  • or describing surrounding circumstances, or
  • it could be describing the movement of events
  • or deeply related issues
  • that may not be immediately apparent from the question.
  • It always demands some attention.
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thank u <3 what would u say about the question?
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thank u <3 what would u say about the question?
well if you are agreed that significators are Venus and Moon
then we study those aspects
Pisces is Venus exaltation sign
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So 1 week ago I met one old professor in field of law (I am student of law faculty). It was just random talk and than he told me that if I want job I should call him, so he promised that he will help in terms of law job me and give me his contacts. I am really interested if this contact will bring me benefit and I really can start working in the law field, because its very hard to find something in foreign country. I did not reply back yet, because I want to get to know his publications first. What do u think?
Libra on asc, is apt for you working in Law. Venus is in good dignity by exaltation in pisces, and venus by sect is the most positive planet in a night chart, L10/moon goes to venus. It looks good to me.
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Libra on asc, is apt for you working in Law. Venus is in good dignity by exaltation in pisces, and venus by sect is the most positive planet in a night chart, L10/moon goes to venus. It looks good to me.
Girl from Mountains, I think you are in a strong position, but the question is whether this offer will actually work out for you. For that we need to know the quesited.

For your career, I would use the 10th, ruled by the moon. The moon applies to a conjunction with Venus, so I would now give your question a "yes."

Again, this may be a good career move in terms of variables other than income.
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You are represented by (Libra) Venus in this equation, which describes your position in the legal field as well (Libra rules professions in law).
I would select 9th house to read for your professor who therefore, is represented by (Gemini) Mercury. 9th house rules the teaching profession (particularly those who work in higher education).
Income from this man would be 2nd from 9th, so 10th. I'll probably take a look at 11h (3rd from 9th) too, as this house rules business & communications.

Significators fall into 5th house. I'm taking this as an indication of your speculation as to the profitabilty of your potential relationship. You would essentially be gambling the time you would invest in a job for the potential prize of income, business contacts, and career opportunities. I'll assume that its not an indication of romance or children :P Especially since you called him old hehe

Moon just changed signs into Pisces (fruitful). Right away I see Venus (you) exalted in Pisces conj Mercury (professor) in detriment in Pisces. That says to me pretty clearly that your association with this professor will benefit you much more than your association will benefit him. Mercury in detriment doesnt produce the best possible results, so you may not land crazy big-fish contacts from this guy. That said Mercury is conjunct Neptune in Pisces, so I feel that helps somewhat. Neptune cuts others a better deal than himself, in Pisces he is the ultimate giver. The conjunction is direct, 0°14'. He definitely wants to help you. He may not be able to help a whole lot or as much as he would like.

Mercury is also receiving a square from Jupiter (from your 3h communications) who expands everything he touches. As the great benefic a square from Jupiter isn't so bad and more indicates trouble controlling something for its size. Perhaps he connects you with so many people it's hard to tell which contacts are truly valuable? Mercury is not in fall (19°) so the association won't harm him, it seems.
To summate: He helps you out, potentially a little, potentially a lot. The desire to help is there. Jupiter is wanting to expand in the realm your third house of communications through this man. Some energy to this end may be either semi-blocked or hard to control, or both at times.

Moon will pass over Venus, Mercury, and Neptune (in his own domicile) before leaving the sign of Pisces, so certainly not VOC.

10h cusp lands in the final degrees of Cancer, fruitful. Moon's NN is applying direct conj to MC in 5°21'.

11h cusp Virgo. Virgo ruled by Mercury, rules business. I find it interesting that that turned 3rd (business/communications coming from the quesited) is your 11th house of hopes and wishes, groups and large organizations

Timing
Moon applying direct conj to Mercury in 15°02'
Pisces, mutable: medium time frame
In 5th house, succedent house: medium time frame
I'm seeing this as 15 weeks, 2 days. About 3.5 months.
Perhaps a little sooner, when Moon conjuncts Venus and activates Mercury through V conj M connection.

I don't want to give you false hope but to me this seems like an important contact for you to make.
To me, chart says it will pay off, perhaps not immediately in money or in enormously profitable contacts, but rather by bringing you closer to your NN's purpose to which your career seems to be the (current) path.

I'm new to timing but I'd say something important to the direction of your career (and life) will occur 3-3.5 months into your association with this man.

Edit: It'd be great if you could keep us updated on your decision & how things turn out. I wish you all the best luck!!

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thank u so much <3 i am going to write him tomorrow, lets see what will happen.. For me even the internship would be a great for my career <3
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thank u so much <3 i am going to write him tomorrow, lets see what will happen.. For me even the internship would be a great for my career <3
You're very welcome! (: All the best wishes for you
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guys, Yesterday I had an interviwe with him, and I think it went well. The problem was my visa, but anyway I think it was okey. He told me that during a week he will contact me. I casted a chart today, but its a little weir, all planets are in 12 house... any ideas? Will he hire me?
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it is more than two weeks now and he is not contacting me yet....:\
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Hi Girlfrommountains! A long time ago, you had reached out to me for further information via PM and I just wanted to respond somehow, at least! I took a hiatus from the site for a while following a surgery & wanted you to know I wasn't ignoring you

I realize it has been a very long time since you first posted this thread and the matter has probably passed. I also see your account isn't active here anymore, but I just wanted to post this in case you ever revisited this page:
I'm so sorry to have missed your messages for such a long time and wish I could have offered you more assistance. I hope very much that this situation turned out well for you!
Thank you very much for your feedback in PM regarding my above delineation- it was one of the first I'd ever made for another person and I really appreciate the confirmation that you gave me.

Best wishes xxLushBomb

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I'm sure you're not interested in this matter anymore, or following this thread if you are but just for the hell since you posted it (and I wasn't able to view the charts you sent me, the links did not work correctly)

Whenever house boundaries are skewed heavily like this I'm tempted to take it as an important feature of the chart. Contrarily, I'm also inclined to look at the chart in Whole House, just for perspective.

Anyway, your chart looks promising. You are Venus again, exalted in Pisces- so you would appear to be a strong candidate. The 10th house would represent the professor, being that you are viewing him in the context of a hiring manager rather than a teacher in your situation. He is Saturn in domicile in the 9th, which is appropriate; this describes someone who has the power and authority to hire you on at the university.
There's an applying aspect between the two of you- a sextile. Sextiles can have kind of an affinity with money matters; the sextile is a Venusian aspect so that probably has something to do with it. Just a sidenote.
Anyway, Venus is applying to Saturn by sextile in 3*. Saturn speaks of slow movement and delays, being the significator of the professor could mean that he is going to take his sweet time with the matter, or possibly that hiring you is something that could get lost in the shuffle of the day-to-day priorities causing delay in the matter.
With Venus applying to Saturn and the aspect between them you may have to push the matter a bit yourself. Trines can be things that just fall into our laps (but not always), frequently sextiles require a little effort on our part to achieve.
So the thing that kinda modifies all this information to me is the South Node. He's hiding in plain sight, SMACK ON the MC. They are exact, to 0*05' [technically a little closer than that, even, if you count seconds(")].
The South Node restricts or delays. And notice that Saturn is actually applying to SN while the MC (your career) separates from him.
He could have decided to hire someone else, or his boss did not approve of his decision to hire you... You will note that Saturn is applying 0* square to Sun in your 12th house of hidden enemies/self-undoing. This aspect prohibits the perfection of your sextile with him. The Sun is exalted in Aries, much like your sig is exalted in Pisces.
If this was a competitor for the position, you both stood out with excellent potential as far as the professor was concerned (both exalted), however the other party was a bit more aggressive/direct/hands-on about the situation (Sun in Aries vs. Venus in Pisces). Because Saturn receives Sun by fall, I'm not so sure this is the case. (Would you hire someone of whose ways of operating you had a poor opinion of?)
Being that Sun is the natural sig for King/Government/Authority, this position could be also describing the professor's boss (ie; Dean of the Deparment or something), that is- if the boss has a say in the hiring process. While your professor [domiciled Saturn] seems to have the power to hire someone for the position, he has to defer to his boss [exalted Sun] for approval. I would expect that more from a Sun in Libra, where Saturn is receiving the Sun by exaltation (even though the Sun would be in detriment). Furthemore, the Sun rules the 5th house in this chart, which is the 7th from the 10th- for the professors boss I believe we would want the 10th from the 10th.
A square is a block, an obstacle, and frequently (but not always!) a "no" answer. With Saturn receiving that square from the sign of his detriment, it's likely that he didn't agree with the decision, or the outcome (not hiring you) affects him poorly. Sun doesn't receive Saturn in Capricorn into any of his dignities, so whoever the Sun is probably didn't care one way or the other if Saturn liked it, didn't like it, if it made his life easier or made it hell. He was just like "this is my decision, that's that."

I kind of overlooked this angle until I reread your post with the chart in it- you mentioned your Visa was an issue. Sun representing king/government/authority could be representing the fact that the government won't allow the professor to hire you with your current visa status. This makes much more sense than the two possibilities I expressed above regarding dignities. The Sun being the government is unaffected by your professor in their decision-making process (ie; employment laws regarding visa). Saturn is ACTIVELY negatively affected by these laws- they are preventing him from taking the action he wants and it is unfortunate for him. You are Venus and Sun in Aries is in your sign of detriment. This is the opposite of a generosity, which is a form of mutual reception without any aspects involved. I can't remember what it is termed when the reception is negative. But basically, what the Sun is doing is no good for you either, and that's backed up by his placement in your 12th house.

TLDR;
If I had been able to advise you in a timely manner, I would have said go sort out your visa!!! The aspect between Venus and Saturn hasn't perfected yet, and with the South node on your MC and Saturn as your professor's sig, delays are indicated in this process. Just because it's been weeks doesn't mean anything, there could still be a chance that you can pull this through.
Now you messaged me 2 months after you had made this post stating that you still hadn't been hired. I will point out that the orb between Venus and Saturn is 3*. It could be indicating 3 months to hire. I really hope this was the case for you and you got your job and it was everything you hoped it would be!!
It has to be considered however, that SN on 10th cusp and the prohibition from Sun are giving a 'No' answer. My advice remains the same- sort out your Visa! This could be the way that this situation/contact with this professor helps you on your NN's journey. It's possible that you need to get your documentation in order before you will be able to take the next step on your life path.

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