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But Bloomberg wouldn't have the Cult-following Trump has, or the Russian Connection. He's been a registered Democrat for most of his life, and is considered Liberal, and even Progressive on most issues.

Whichever one of the candidates who can win the Electoral-vote is fine with me, for now.



David: What occurs to me, is he truly does have a "type" of cult-like following in the form of very wealthy movers and shakers in the DNC (i.e. HRC and Bill), on and on and on, certainly Wall Street folks, and those "in the closet, never trumpers" including Trump Republicans who held their nose the 1st time around, BUT would now, likely turn the corner for a "like-minded" Dem in the assets arena of life.

added: Add Independents who are wealthy and not bothered by conscience to that long list in this country.




To my way of thinking, (and I could be proven wrong, but I doubt it), its a war between the haves and the have-nots, with the Haves having more to lose to bring about all manner of disruption and chaos under the guise of "we must send Biden or Bloomberg" we simply cannot have someone who is for the little or average people who actually end up PAYING the bills of AJ's long long list of foibles and sins.

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David: What occurs to me, is he truly does have a "type" of cult-like following in the form of very wealthy movers and shakers in the DNC (i.e. HRC and Bill), on and on and on, certainly Wall Street folks, and those "in the closet, never trumpers" including Trump Republicans who held their nose the 1st time around, BUT would now, likely turn the corner for a "like-minded" Dem in the assets arena of life.

added: Add Independents who are wealthy and not bothered by conscience to that long list in this country.




To my way of thinking, (and I could be proven wrong, but I doubt it), its a war between the haves and the have-nots, with the Haves having more to lose to bring about all manner of disruption and chaos under the guise of "we must send Biden or Bloomberg" we simply cannot have someone who is for the little or average people who actually end up PAYING the bills of AJ's long long list of foibles and sins.
It's either win the Electoral vote, or/ AT LEAST 4 more devastating years of King Trump. If it's Sanders who can do that, great! Just don't expect him to be able to get much of his legislation through the House and Senate, and just hope the Oligarchy doesn't decide to crash the Economy as a response to his Presidency. Still great, though!

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Any ideas on who Sanders would pick for his Vice-presidential nominee?

My wish is for Senator Elizabeth Warren, in his neighboring state, (gets a chunk of the women vote and she's truly a mathematical wizard for saving money and protection of taxpayers against Wall Street bankers who are doing the exact same thing now that Trump took off all the safeguards put into place by the Obama administration...after the crash of 2008. (see her accomplishment list during the economical crisis when the recession occurred then)


I'd also prefer someone like Corey Booker., so either/or would be my preference.


But wishing isn't quite "there yet".....and IF the DNC has it's way, he won't be. So no worries, just the "same old same old" as before djt arrived to save everyone, lol.


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It's either win the Electoral vote, or/ AT LEAST 4 more devastating years of King Trump. If it's Sanders, great! Just don't expect him to be able to get much of his legislation through the House and Senate, and just hope the Oligarchy doesn't decide to crash the Economy as a response to his Presidency. Still great, though!

Dow down over the Coronavirus , went as low at over 1,000 in the hole. I don't dabble in it however. The world may be set into a recession if a cure isn't found and this thing continues to spread. Even R. Merriman is very worried about it (Wall Street Astrologer)

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Hillary would have been "O.K." as President, despite the way she was unfairly demonized by the Russians. Trump didn't save us from anything. He inherited a recovering economy from Obama, and the Dems were all for a tax cut for the wealthy.
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My wish is for Senator Elizabeth Warren, in his neighboring state, (gets a chunk of the women vote and she's truly a mathematical wizard for saving money and protection of taxpayers against Wall Street bankers who are doing the exact same thing now that Trump took off all the safeguards put into place by the Obama administration...after the crash of 2008. (see her accomplishment list during the economical crisis when the recession occurred then)


I'd also prefer someone like Corey Booker., so either/or would be my preference.


But wishing isn't quite "there yet".....and IF the DNC has it's way, he won't be. So no worries, just the "same old same old" as before djt arrived to save everyone, lol.





Dow down over the Coronavirus , went as low at over 1,000 in the hole. I don't dabble in it however. The world may be set into a recession if a cure isn't found and this thing continues to spread. Even R. Merriman is very worried about it (Wall Street Astrologer)
How would Wall Street react to their perception of "the Sandersvirus"?
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How would Wall Street react to their perception of "the Sandersvirus"?

Well, personally, I use Imodium, but the generic form (much cheaper) i.e. Loperamide is one of the best-known anti-diarrheal medicines.

Take 2 in the morning, and if it persists, call your doctor.
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Hillary would have been "O.K." as President, despite the way she was unfairly demonized by the Russians. Trump didn't save us from anything. He inherited a recovering economy from Obama, and the Dems were all for a tax cut for the wealthy.

Oh my, where would I even begin when it comes to Hillary?
Well, not at Pizzagate for sure. However, there are valid reasons for avoidance unless one likes the old way of things, i.e. Wall Street bankers calling the shots. Such as the many Wall Street lobbyists who back Joe Biden, (another version of Hillary-Obama repeat action)


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If one puts this corporate money machine in the context of how Wall Street gutted six-decade old investor protection legislation under the presidency of Bill Clinton, leading to the greatest financial crash since the Great Depression in 2008, it’s clear why Hillary Clinton is calling only for baby steps in reforming Wall Street while Senator Bernie Sanders is calling for a political revolution and the restoration of the Glass-Steagall Act.
Incremental change like Hillary Clinton has in mind will not upset her corporate donors but it will devastate what is left of America, accelerating the already unprecedented levels of wealth and income inequality.
The DNC hierarchy made a fatal mistake when not backing Senator Sanders in 2016 and undermining him every step of the way. There are enough "Never HRC"votes in this country to stuff a pig.


https://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/...al-revolution/

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HRC did win the Popular vote by a very wide margin, and in all but 5 Presidential elections in U.S. history, the Popular vote and the Electoral College vote were for the same candidate.

But, that's all water under the bridge now. WHICH Democratic candidate has the best chance of winning the Electoral College vote in 2020, and what tricks will the Russians and the Republicans play to discredit the Democratic nominee, Bernie included? Will "Socialist" be a winning label in the all-important Swing-States?
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Hi piercethevale,

That is a patently false statement.

The person was jailed because a judge ordered that person to appear in court on a certain date at a certain time and gave them notice 30 days in advance.

That person effectively told the judge to get bent by failing or refusing to appear.

That person could have informed the judge that the date and time created a conflict and requested a more convenient time and the judge would have readily granted their request.

Instead, that person told the judge to get bent and that the laws of the US do not apply to them.

That person could have showed up on the appointed date and time and request a continuance.

Instead, that person told the judge to get bent and that the laws of the US do not apply to them.

That person could have given the judge a good and proper reason for not appearing on the date and time ordered.

Instead, that person told the judge to get bent and that the laws of the US do not apply to them.

That's what really happened and that is why they were jailed, for disrespecting the judge, not medical debt.
Then the article I read on the internet was in error.
I didn't try to follow up on it as it doesn't affect me and I trusted the fellow that forwarded the article to me. I'll be more discretionary in the future.

Thank you for "setting the facts straight".

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But Bloomberg wouldn't have the Cult-following Trump has, or the Russian Connection. He's been a registered Democrat for most of his life, and is considered Liberal, and even Progressive on most issues.

Whichever one of the candidates who can win the Electoral-vote is fine with me, for now.
I heard that He was a registered Republican at one time but, then again, so was I.
People change as people evolve, and that's what life is all about, at least it is my belief.
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HRC did win the Popular vote by a very wide margin, and in all but 5 Presidential elections in U.S. history, the Popular vote and the Electoral College vote were for the same candidate.

But, that's all water under the bridge now. WHICH Democratic candidate has the best chance of winning the Electoral College vote in 2020, and what tricks will the Russians and the Republicans play to discredit the Democratic nominee, Bernie included? Will "Socialist" be a winning label in the all-important Swing-States?
On a lighter note, Trump's already calling Sanders "a Communist". Well that used be labeled "a Red", as in the slogan "Better dead than Red". So, maybe Bernie will do well in the "Red-States"!
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David: What occurs to me, is he truly does have a "type" of cult-like following in the form of very wealthy movers and shakers in the DNC (i.e. HRC and Bill), on and on and on, certainly Wall Street folks, and those "in the closet, never trumpers" including Trump Republicans who held their nose the 1st time around, BUT would now, likely turn the corner for a "like-minded" Dem in the assets arena of life.

added: Add Independents who are wealthy and not bothered by conscience to that long list in this country.




To my way of thinking, (and I could be proven wrong, but I doubt it), its a war between the haves and the have-nots, with the Haves having more to lose to bring about all manner of disruption and chaos under the guise of "we must send Biden or Bloomberg" we simply cannot have someone who is for the little or average people who actually end up PAYING the bills of AJ's long long list of foibles and sins.
One of Edgar Cayce's predictions of the for the future of the U.S. ...and please keep in mind this was channeled prophecy and whom it was that was channeled... He said that unless things changed in society that there would be a confrontation...and I can't remember exactly, and it would take me hours to find the exact words, but it may be that, He said that there would be fighting and even blood shed. Then He added that it wouldn't be racial but that it would be between the those that have more than they need and those that have too little.

Maybe not his exact words, but I think that's rather close enough, as the gist of that entire readings' message was about greed of the few and the sufferings of the many and why we must heed the teachings of the Nazarene, Yeshu'a, aka Jesus of Nazareth.
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Any ideas on who Sanders would pick for his Vice-presidential nominee?
I'm hoping that it will be Tulsi Gabbard.

...I also agree with you that Bernie won't be able to get much of his own legislation passed through Congress, but Congress won't be able to get much, if any, of anything they do pass past His desk, if it benefits the "Haves" at the expense and, or, the detriment of the many that barely have enough, have too little, or haven't any to even begin with.
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Hillary would have been "O.K." as President, despite the way she was unfairly demonized by the Russians. Trump didn't save us from anything. He inherited a recovering economy from Obama, and the Dems were all for a tax cut for the wealthy.
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... I thought that you were smarter than that , David.

I don't think that Obama knew the first thing about economics when He first took the office and likely learned very little in the 8 years He spent in office... He was too busy grooming his own ego, for one thing.

...and as for Hillary having been "O.K."... that's Hillarious...
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HRC did win the Popular vote by a very wide margin, and in all but 5 Presidential elections in U.S. history, the Popular vote and the Electoral College vote were for the same candidate.

But, that's all water under the bridge now. WHICH Democratic candidate has the best chance of winning the Electoral College vote in 2020, and what tricks will the Russians and the Republicans play to discredit the Democratic nominee, Bernie included? Will "Socialist" be a winning label in the all-important Swing-States?
Had they ever checked the validity of all the votes cast in 2016, it could be possible that she didn't even win the popular vote.

I will say that it's a fact that she didn't win the Democratic primary election here in California as for what I know, witnessed with my own eyes on that election night. I've written about it numerous times and don't wish to spend my time repeating myself.

She and Her husband are a couple of frauds, there are too many deaths surrounding the Clinton's for which there is no explanation for or the reason given is obvious b.s. Take for an exxample that African delgate to the U.N. that allegedly had the dirt on the Clinton's and was found dead in his own home, neck broken, or throat crushe, under the barbell while he had allegedly been doing bench presses alone..
The only time that has ever been seen before was in a television show, an episode of "Columbo".
I was a power lifter, weight lifting for strength, for years. At age 25 I weighed 158 lbs and could dead lift 535 lbs. squat 425 lbs and I bench pressed 285 lbs. Genetically, I'm a bit weak in the chest, but as for legs and lower body I'm at the advantage. I was foolish enough to attempt bench presses nearing 300 lbs alone, by myself, and even so I was able to get out from under the weight by lowering it onto my chest and then tipping it to one side or rolling it down to below my waist so that I could then sit upright and have it drop to the floor when I stood up. No one has ever had a barbell drop onto their neck like that. For one thing it is so briefly at the point where it is directly over ones neck that one would have to stall.
I was as light weight as they came back in those days among the few that could lift that amount in total weight between those three lifts. [light weight division under 165 lbs in weight] and I was able to manage to not ever get hurt, much less kill myself.

Besides, it sounded as though the fellow wasn't even using Olympic type weights but rather an inexpensive "home set', and likely didn't have more than a couple of hundred pounds on it, if even that. When doing a bench press the barbell is only for a brief instant directly over ones neck and it is either going forward over the chest or back to the stand upon which it rests. It is never held stationary directly over the neck
... and absurd is the idea that even if it were at that point and to then lose all muscle resistance for that to occur.

Then there's the "story" about the fellow that was shot and killed in D.C. while being held at gunpoint and robbed...only thing is, nothing of value was taken from him... unless it was some evidence incriminating the Clinton's, or if you wish to include his own life... as his brain allegedly had a lot of evidence on file.

Last time I checked there was list of over 70 names of people that have died somewhat strangely, and very strangely as to some of them, that had ties to the Clinton's.

..and that Satanic stuff that Hill and Bill are said to, allegedly, be into?... I'll refer you to the findings of the late Ted Gunderson, ex director of the Los Angeles unit of the F.B.I. for anything more about that.

I, myself, thank God, that Hillary didn't get the Oval office, everyday since that election... and that's a TRUE fact... even if it be the only one I just wrote about.
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Our real problem is not knowing if the "Official" vote-tally is true. So, no matter what the outcome, it will be suspect. Maybe the fix is in, the results have been decided, and rest is all smoke and mirrors, with various "reasons" to explain the outcome.
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Our real problem is not knowing if the "Official" vote-tally is true. So, no matter what the outcome, it will be suspect. Maybe the fix is in, the results have been decided, and rest is all smoke and mirrors, with various "reasons" to explain the outcome.

I looked up the California nomination in 2016. They all say HRC won a "decisive" victory, but that Sanders wouldn't acknowledge it. Did Bernie himself challenge the California result as fraudulent?
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All beautifully put, piercethevale - and your screen name makes a lot of sense in light of your 12th cusp Sabian symbol. It gives me an itch to go look up the 12th cusp symbols of lots of charts!

I doubt Bernie was interested in mounting any full-face challenges to Hillary or the DNC during the 2016 elections (well, the dnc likely sees it differently, as they react strongly to perceived threats). He was awfully courteous, like to a fault, last cycle.
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Our real problem is not knowing if the "Official" vote-tally is true. So, no matter what the outcome, it will be suspect. Maybe the fix is in, the results have been decided, and rest is all smoke and mirrors, with various "reasons" to explain the outcome.

I looked up the California nomination in 2016. They all say HRC won a "decisive" victory, but that Sanders wouldn't acknowledge it. Did Bernie himself challenge the California result as fraudulent?
No one did to my knowledge. It's only due to my attentiveness here in Sacramento, and the gaff of a local tv station posting "results" five minutes ahead of the State Registrars office by having both the tv on and the Registrars' website on my computer at the same time, that I caught it. The local NBC affiliate posted results at 10:03 that the State didn't claim were the "up to the minute results" until 10:08.
An 8 will sometimes to appear to be as an 3 on a computer print out or if typed. It was obviously "scripted".
Hillary couldn't fill a high school gymnasiums here in Calif. when she came and spoke, but Bernie had them lined up for blocks at standing room only stadiums and at Cal Expo, which held thousands.
To this day I personally don't know anyone here that claims to have voted for Hillary in the primaries.
The State Registrar was a Democrat.
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As to Bernie's 12th House cusp symbolism, I have questioned whether it is the absence of or otherwise.
I am currently harboring the belief that it means He believes that to achieve a stability is the answer , once it is constructed in the right manner.
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I heard that He was a registered Republican at one time but, then again, so was I.
People change as people evolve, and that's what life is all about, at least it is my belief.



I've been there/done that., all 3 parties. Currently Indpendent and plan on keeping it this way now. Clinton, Bush, (1st race in 2000), then Obama for 8 years.

I like being Independent from parties, far less bothersome phone calls, less pesty mail which is a bonus.


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Nope, a a "never HRC" Burned once, shame on you, burned twice as they say, shame on me! I felt burned when I voted for Bill Clinton because of the Monica fiasco and all the scandals in the WH back then looking rather tame today.

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I joined the A.R.E. back in the 70s, and have written countless books on Cayce's prophecies.
Actually, the ones you are likely referring to have to do with the point in time when Halaliel (who said he was a channeled entity or angel)..
There was a huge conflab in the A.R.E. in which it finally was left to a certain small group who surrounded Mr. Cayce, (many of them family), deciding that he should turn away from Halaliel, and just go with what they termed the Christ energy. And so he did.



It was never a conscious desire on his part to channel that particular entity. But that is where they went for a very short while. Much of it is under the category, "earth changes"....and it was finally determined (at least by the group) that people in the room at the time of the readings had been bickering amongst themselves, therefore, this entity was drawn into the subconscious collective mindset of the room.



Personally speaking, much of Halaliel's prognostications of what may come to pass, I think was valuable to know. But this is the background of it.


AND then there is the post /during the ending of WW2 predictions which are of another caliber as you say, given for particular persons.
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I joined the A.R.E. back in the 70s, and have written countless books on Cayce's prophecies.
Actually, the ones you are likely referring to have to do with the point in time when Halaliel (who said he was a channeled entity or angel)..
There was a huge conflab in the A.R.E. in which it finally was left to a certain small group who surrounded Mr. Cayce, (many of them family), deciding that he should turn away from Halaliel, and just go with what they termed the Christ energy. And so he did.



It was never a conscious desire on his part to channel that particular entity. But that is where they went for a very short while. Much of it is under the category, "earth changes"....and it was finally determined (at least by the group) that people in the room at the time of the readings had been bickering amongst themselves, therefore, this entity was drawn into the subconscious collective mindset of the room.



Personally speaking, much of Halaliel's prognostications of what may come to pass, I think was valuable to know. But this is the background of it.


AND then there is the post /during the ending of WW2 predictions which are of another caliber as you say, given for particular persons.
Thanks for clearing that up.

P.S. The source did always add a disclaimer to future predictions saying that those things might come to pass depending on whether mankind evolved sufficiently in the interim.
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Re: USA Nov. 2020 Presidential Election, the Democrat Party Contenders

As to Bernie's 12th House cusp. That is if that is Bernie's natal chart?
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