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My Triad: Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon, Libra Rising

I have been studying astrology for some years as a hobby but only got serious about it recently. When I discovered my Saturn Return is quickly approaching, I dug deeper and eventually got a reading from Laura Eisenhower. She hadn't looked at my chart before the call, I gave her my information and she was "blown away." Apparently, I exist beyond duality; I integrate polarity as all humans wish to attain; I am a rare, profound incarnation. I am meant to be a New Earth leader, possibly even a "Galactic Leader." She told me that my soul did a lot of work before coming here, very little if any karmic debt (something to do with my MC, I couldn't figure out how to record it, but I already confirmed another reading and will make sure I record then so I remember everything!) and that I have huge visions with a big mission; an Awakener. I am attaching my natal chart here, I am not expecting any readings, of course, I did read the rules; I am just attaching it for reference, so I can introduce myself. Thank you for reading! Any opinions are appreciated!
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My Triad: Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon, Libra Rising
I have been studying astrology for some years as a hobby but only got serious about it recently. When I discovered my Saturn Return is quickly approaching, I dug deeper and eventually got a reading from Laura Eisenhower. She hadn't looked at my chart before the call, I gave her my information and she was "blown away." Apparently, I exist beyond duality; I integrate polarity as all humans wish to attain; I am a rare, profound incarnation. I am meant to be a New Earth leader, possibly even a "Galactic Leader." She told me that my soul did a lot of work before coming here, very little if any karmic debt (something to do with my MC, I couldn't figure out how to record it, but I already confirmed another reading and will make sure I record then so I remember everything!) and that I have huge visions with a big mission; an Awakener. I am attaching my natal chart here, I am not expecting any readings, of course, I did read the rules; I am just attaching it for reference, so I can introduce myself. Thank you for reading! Any opinions are appreciated!

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Interested to know what astro placements she saw in your chart to come to those conclusions, that is, if she told you. I am wagering that I know what she was looking at, but still would like your confirmation.
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Intense chart. Thatís the first time Iíve seen Uranus and Neptune nearly cazimi.
No idea how someone could claim a person has no karmic debt - is that a projection? Though a NN disposed by Jupiter in H1 Libra certainly sounds very nice. I also have a ďreversedĒ chart due to Libra rising and it makes untangling the nodal axis .. interesting.

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Interested to know what astro placements she saw in your chart to come to those conclusions, that is, if she told you. I am wagering that I know what she was looking at, but still would like your confirmation.
Thank you for replying! I appreciate any insight!

I did attach a photo before, I will attach it again as well as a link, if that is what you meant. I am in a bit of a rush right now, but I will transcribe my notes from that call here in another post as soon as I can. From the top of my head, I think she explained that it's in part because of my Ascendant and Capricorn stellium in the 4th with MC Cancer and the Moon and Mars in Cancer in the 10th... She was looking at my chart and speaking off the cuff, she started by saying that I'm very cardinal so I'd be best as some kind of leader and work with children, or animals, work from home, with lots of land, and then she asked if I had anything I wanted to do. Ever since I was 3 years old, I wanted to be president (I used to get upset when people didn't call me Clinton until I was about 4.5, my mom told me) I have always been in love with politics, I have a BA in International Affairs but I didn't even get that far, as soon as I said "president," she gasped and said world leader; she paused and then told me that I wasn't meant to be a government leader but a New Earth leader, with huge visions and big missions. A spiritual genius, highly intelligent. She said my soul is so powerful that I feed the collective through my own spirit. Will write more later (wrote the P.S. first because I loved the name so much)!

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Intense chart. Thatís the first time Iíve seen Uranus and Neptune nearly cazimi.
No idea how someone could claim a person has no karmic debt - is that a projection? Though a NN disposed by Jupiter in H1 Libra certainly sounds very nice. I also have a ďreversedĒ chart due to Libra rising and it makes untangling the nodal axis .. interesting.
Thank you so much for that insight! I will look into cazimi later, that is very interesting that my Neptune and Uranus placements somehow aren't common, I mistakenly just thought of them as common, generational, slow-moving planets so until recently, so I didn't even pay much attention to them. It is interesting that you call it a "reversed" chart, and I am happy to speak with another Libra rising! I connected with one romantically the day after my reading and that's why I scheduled another reading so soon, our composite chart was very moving. Also, thank you for letting me know that "NN disposed by Jupiter in H1 Libra" is a good combo! I heard Jupiter being so close to the Ascendant may lead to problems with obesity (5'5" female, never been over 220 lbs but struggled with being chunky in my lower half since puberty) and I've been diagnosed with lipoedema recently, so I always looked at it negatively. My reading was done exactly a week ago, but even then I didn't know that my NN being involved sounds nice. I appreciate your thoughts!

Yeah, I was very shocked too, she said I have karmic balance too at one point later (Android 10.0 doesn't allow phone calls to be recorded, I tried to use my laptop and just couldn't figure it out at the time, but I have done more research and will be prepared to record on March 1, my next reading), I asked if it was because of my Houses and she explained something about me containing solutions, that I embody the energies of both the Divine Mother and the New Earth energy, she said I embody a "goddess from a higher Earth," born from this "Ascension Window" and the only thing that will stop me is my own self-doubts and insecurities, that I should trust myself. I have "a sea of goals and visions" to accomplish and that I shouldn't be shy about my power. She said I am humble which is excellent, especially for a leader, but not to be so shy. She commented that she would vote for me in a heartbeat!
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Yes, Uranus and Neptune are slow-moving planets, and their conjunction in Capricorn is a generational phenomenon. In your chart, that conjunction is very close, half a degree from being exact, and then these are very close to your Sun - Neptune is just 15 minutes away, considered cazimi. So that is unusual.
It translates into a ton of transpersonal information coming your way all the time, filtered through a serious dispositor ruling the 4th - Aqua Saturn in 5th.
I honestly donít know what two transpersonals cazimi is like. I have one in my chart dispositing SN and itís enough

Not only h1 Jupiter lends itself to physical expansion. You can use that Jupiter through a philosophical exploration of diet, health, environmental integrity and adaptation. Moon in Cancer past trine to Scorpion Pluto is probably getting another extra dose of information that you might try to dull through eating. The squares and oppositions in your chart could be stressful as well. Venus in Pisces ruling the Asc is probably a bit indulgent and takes health for granted. Try and use your Jupiter to organize all that information for the sake of your joyful wise happiness.
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Ah... I would think that the interpreter was looking at your cardinality, as well as culminating Mars when delineated leadership.

Not sure what exactly she means when she says that you are beyond duality; did she explain to you what she meant by that? The exalted spiritual states and world significance of your leadership may be related to your extremely close triple conjunction of the Sun, Neptune and Uranus. I'd also be interested in hearing if you do resonate with the idea of nonduality. Are you familiar with the alchemical idea of the divine marriage? Carl Jung wrote a treatise on alchemy and its relation to the human psyche - its called mysterium conuinctionis.

At this point in time, you'd probably have much more to say to me about conspiracies than I have to say to you, since I haven't been following any of the recent theories in the field. I do however have a couple of leads that you might find of interest. A website that goes into technical details as to how "agency" destroys the integrity of information and the process of knowledge acquisition, and an author who has a project of translating the ideas of Adam Weishaupt in English - the creator of the Bavarian Illuminati in the late 1700s.

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Hi EBD! I'm new, too, and know just enough astrology to make dangerously inaccurate analyses!

And I have some extremes in my chart, too, but have no idea how to put it all together. Thinking I'll get a reading like you did. Is your second reading with the same person? For even more detail?

I gather you think it was worth it. Cool.
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In another point of view you seem to build your reality and expectations on astrological interpretation mixed with New-Age concepts. Sun conjunct Neptune is screaming delusion. Uranus adds uniqueness. In Capricorn, sign of statute and power, be aware of delusion of grandeur.

When someone encourages you on this is feeding your desire to hear that you are special and keeps you in this vulnerable position, being dependent by confirmation. You will be powerful when you will need no confirmation, because your power is something to give, is a creative force, use it.


Jupiter in 1st house is inflated personality which is good when is in good aspects, but is in lazy and pleasure-seekeing Libra, whereas the aquatic cancerian Mars hardly could provide persistent and siqnifiquant efforts required for success in the public arena. Mars in Cancer, you have talent to help people, you are warm-hearted by nature. Jupiter square mercury - unrealistic expectations, may be susceptible to confusions, forgetfulness, gossips, weak critical thinking, inclined to superstitions.

Jupiter square Mars shows a conflict between collective good vs personal desire and this aspect is highlighted by the position of Chiron (the psychological wound), in the sign of Leo, which show issues with self-esteem and personal pride. Chiron opposite Saturn, wound is associated with authority figures, you prefer to identify with the authority not with Chiron, you repress the wound. With Chiron in 11th house, you truly have an inner feeling of personal destiny and you could make an impact at large scale, but will be hard for you to find the way through the web of self-made illusions and to love yourself by less volatile values as worldly dignities (you need other people to feel inspired because the lack of planets in Fire element except Chiron which is asteroid).

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My Triad: Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon, Libra Rising

I have been studying astrology for some years as a hobby but only got serious about it recently. When I discovered my Saturn Return is quickly approaching, I dug deeper and eventually got a reading from Laura Eisenhower. She hadn't looked at my chart before the call, I gave her my information and she was "blown away." Apparently, I exist beyond duality; I integrate polarity as all humans wish to attain; I am a rare, profound incarnation. I am meant to be a New Earth leader, possibly even a "Galactic Leader." She told me that my soul did a lot of work before coming here, very little if any karmic debt (something to do with my MC, I couldn't figure out how to record it, but I already confirmed another reading and will make sure I record then so I remember everything!) and that I have huge visions with a big mission; an Awakener. I am attaching my natal chart here, I am not expecting any readings, of course, I did read the rules; I am just attaching it for reference, so I can introduce myself. Thank you for reading! Any opinions are appreciated!
You MIGHT benefit from reading my thread "Voyage of Discovery" in the Other Astrology forum; because, according to this carefully considered version of tropical Ages (as distinct from sidereal Ages, which are necessarily absent from a tropical Chart), your 4th House and your // Conjunction in Cap are RIGHT in the thick of things regarding the transition from the tropical Age of Capricorn into the tropical Age of Aquarius.

In this context, it's extremely significant that your Natal-chart has the ruler of the upcoming Aquarian Age () in tight mutual reception to the ruler of the Age of Capricorn, now slooowly nearing its ending ().

4D Saturnian structure is gradually being dismantled en route to being superseded by a new 5D Uranian-style paradigm. The billionaires, technocrats, and corporate interests are involved in a desperate (although futile) effort to stop this process from proceeding. It's a VERY dangerous situation.

Be safe!

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Thank you for your insight!
It would make more sense if I explain that I was born and raised in the US, but both of my parents are Palestinian; so my goal in life, as that of many Palestinians, is to do something that will help free Palestine. I do not know how I came to this conclusion; likely because my father wasn't around much since he traveled for work (very abusive; my mom thankfully started the divorce process when I was 14, I helped her raise my 3 younger brothers and watched them as soon as I could, so the motherly themes called to me), so my mom always spoke with me and is interested in politics herself (not obsessed like me; I suspect she is Sagittarius Sun, Sag Moon, Leo Rising). I've never thought of being president as glamorous, and as I grew I thought maybe I could work with the UN (then found out it was evil, would never work for them now) and was recently offered a "career-starting" position as a Field Assistant Supervisor for the US Census Bureau starting in March; the first position actually related to my field of study (PoliSci).
I am always cautious of those because of life experiences; my spirit has been broken down so many times; my sense of worthlessness used to be so high from all the family related trauma (one of the first things she mentioned was my family being overwhelming) and sexual abuse (non-family)
Anyways, only two months ago did I start looking into my chart; I'd long believed I'd been born difficult stars with my Triad (Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon, Libra Rising) and out of fear, never looked into my own chart, despite doing so for others pretty accurately since college. I only paid mild attention to Houses, and focused on how the composition of elements would cause the person to express those traits. Finding out how the Houses worked in December was what started this but I expected to be told that I was meant to be a powerful spiritual guide, to help others become their higher Selves, but like as a mentor or something, to start my own business. The whole point of the reading was to help prepare for my Saturn Return, I did not expect any of this.
Sorry this doesn't flow, I'm not writing in order and am running late! Will be back later!
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Thank you so very much, David!

This is the only single source I can say for how Trump is positively affecting the Age of Aquarius and I think I can help one day, I just want to free Palestine and help bring world peace. Those are my true goals in life. This video is about an hour long and it's very interesting, you will see the Aquarian themes throughout:

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Will write more later! Thank you again!
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And I have some extremes in my chart, too, but have no idea how to put it all together. Thinking I'll get a reading like you did. Is your second reading with the same person? For even more detail?

I gather you think it was worth it. Cool.
Will write more later but she's fantastic, I studied her works for months and did my homework before picking out someone for my first reading! My second reading is because I think I connected with someone important romantically the day after my reading, she has monthly 15 min check ins for subscribers when available: https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/ca...b=#tabs_redraw

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She's busy but will respond within 24 hours, she can get you on the calendar sooner than mid-April. Tell her Samah sent you! That's my real name, hello all!

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Just remembered that I recently learned about this conspiracy by happenstance, perhaps you might find it of some interest. I had a chance meeting with Vicken Khachadourian, the creator of this website - http://enoughtrace.com.

A definite rabbit hole. And no, I don't use Uber.
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Thank you so very much, David!

This is the only single source I can say for how Trump is positively affecting the Age of Aquarius and I think I can help one day, I just want to free Palestine and help bring world peace. Those are my true goals in life. This video is about an hour long and it's very interesting, you will see the Aquarian themes throughout:

https://youtu.be/2xT6fcm4V1o

Will write more later! Thank you again!
There was a t.v. show called "2149". This caught my attention because 2149 is when the tropical Aquarian Age takes full effect following the Age of tropical Capricorn.

It's also the beginning of the sidereal Aquarian Age IF you begin this preceding Age of sidereal Pisces in the year 1 A.D., which many tropicalists (not siderealists, who choose a zodiacal setting that yields a much later date) have chosen to do.

My belief is, that these tropicalists have an intuitive knowledge of the tropical Ages (which I had to learn about on my own) without realizing it, and intuitively "rig" the well-known sidereal Ages in order to arrive at the start-date of their own zodiac's Age of Aquarius.

The plot of "2149" was, that the environment had become so life-threatening in that year, that time travel technology was used to go BACK into the past to escape the future--no Aquarian Age for them!

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