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Unread 03-22-2007, 05:15 PM
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Synastry planets in partner's 12th house


How to you read a synastry chart in which 4 planets of one partner are located in 12th house of the other partner? Moon conjunct partner's North Node and Sun conjunct partner's AC...

PLANETARY POSITIONS planet sign degree
Sun Sagittarius 529'46 in house 2
Moon Scorpio 606'52 in house 1
Mercury Sagittarius 2113'14 in house 2
Venus Scorpio 720'24 in house 1
Mars Sagittarius 1901'49 in house 2
Jupiter Leo 903'04 in house 10
Saturn Virgo 1317'03 in house 11
Uranus Scorpio 1752'11 in house 1
Neptune Sagittarius 1734'08 in house 2
Pluto Libra 1822'01 in house 12
True Node Virgo 2408'00 in house 11

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Libra 2839'35
2nd House Scorpio 2637'32
3rd House Sagittarius 2910'36
Imum Coeli Aquarius 437'03
5th House Pisces 757'42
6th House Aries 559'08
Descendant Aries 2839'35
8th House Taurus 2637'32
9th House Gemini 2910'36
Medium Coeli Leo 437'03
11th House Virgo 757'42
12th House Libra 559'08

PLANETARY POSITIONS planet sign degree
Sun Scorpio 115'03 in house 5
Moon Virgo 2634'00 in house 4
Mercury Libra 1854'27 in house 5
Venus Sagittarius 1729'08 in house 6
Mars Virgo 208'46 in house 3
Jupiter Libra 2302'37 in house 5
Saturn Libra 1505'50 end of house 4
Uranus Scorpio 2838'36 in house 6
Neptune Sagittarius 2247'08 in house 6
Pluto Libra 2433'06 in house 5
True Node Cancer 2657'48 in house 2
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)Ascendant Gemini 2932'21
2nd House Cancer 2125'01
3rd House Leo 1422'46
Imum Coeli Virgo 1143'31
5th House Libra 1543'57
6th House Scorpio 2401'26
Descendant Sagittarius 2932'21
8th House Capricorn 2125'01
9th House Aquarius 1422'46
Medium Coeli Pisces 1143'31
11th House Aries 1543'57
12th House Taurus 2401'26


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Unread 03-22-2007, 09:50 PM
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The 12th house is the "hidden house" so energies which are focused there are hidden from us. When Person A's planets are focused in Person B's "hidden house", Person B can feel that Person A is "looking over Person B's shoulder"...which can make Person B nervous...especially if they don't want to be that close to Person A!

In a hidden house,

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Unread 03-22-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house

12th House rules fear and it also rules over secret enemies (those who stand becide us and backstab us). However, IF the Planets in that placement are dignified and strong there (being conjunct with the North node is definately a strength) then you may want to analyze the more positive aspects of the 12th House (for instance large cattle, horses).
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Unread 03-23-2007, 11:04 AM
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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house

My partner has his Sun and Mercury in my 12th house, I read on a synastry program, that his Sun in my 12th makes me aware of the importance of subtle emotional and spiritual factors as a basic power behind existence. It also says that circumstances in the relationship suggest that an element of sacrifice or isolation is necessary for your true self-realisation. For his Mercury in my 12th - this can lead to an attunement of thoughts and ideas which can be useful to you both creatively and spiritually. You may find that communication between you is less than straight forward. I think to get the full picture of our relating I have to look to see if any of my planets aspect his planets which have fallen in my 12th house. My Mars opposes his Sun/Mercury in the 12th and my Uranus squares his Mercury/12th.

One incidence when I got very angry with him was when he went out for a meal with his family because it was the anniversary of his dads death. My partner told me he would be back at 6pm. Well 6pm came and no sign of him or a phone call, to let me know he would be late. I phoned his mobile but there was no answer, it was 10pm by this time and I thought something terrible had happened to him and I was in a very emotional anxious state, I phoned my mother for advice on what to do, I was nearly ready to phone the police. I left messages on his mobile for him to contact me. Finally by 11.30pm he phoned drunk and was going on about a family argument he was having, and never even mentioned why he was late or apologised for not phoning. My partner was making up lie after lie on why he did not call. Like he didn't know he had credit in his phone, he didn't realize the time. I was fuming with him because he spoilt my evening, I was up worrying about him when I could have relaxed for the evening, he can stay out late if he wants all I ask for is the decency to call and say you are going to be late. He said he had hardly had any drink, yet he was slurring his words. It's hard to describe he can tell lies so easily even though I can see right through him. My partner does not tell big lies but he has ease in telling lots and lots of little white lies to get him out of an awkward situation. This is how I have experienced his Sun/mercury in my 12th house with my Mars in 6th opposing them. Natally he has Sun Square Neptune, so his personalty at times can be evasive and hard to understand.

I have always wondered what the impact is of having other peoples planets fall in your water houses. My Mars falls in my partners 8th house, and according to the synastry reading I have a tendency to stir up some of the most profound and dangerous emotions in my partner. My Mars opposes his Sun. Apparently because he is the Sun - he handles arguments with dignity, while I with my Mars hit below the belt. The Synastry program told me that I will have to work on problems with my temperament in this relationship. Cheeky computer But my Mars is square my partners Neptune - so why do I get so annoyed and angry - because he is being so evasive and hard to understand and trying to escape through lies to explain his actions. My Sun is in his 8th as well so as the relationship progresses there may be intense moments and crisis in identity.

I am not sure if it is more difficult to have harsh synastry aspects coming out of the water houses, or if the water houses represent sitituations more hidden - not sure about the 4th though because it is an angular water house and problems may be more obvious in this house. I still need to learn my synastry astrology so I am not completely sure I know the 4th house is the inner life, the 8th house is about power, sex, transformative experiences and the 12th house can be loneliness and great suffering and sacrifice. I always find the water houses the most interesting in natal astrology or in synastry.
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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house


Do you think that if A person Pluto/moon conjunction and mars fall on B 12th house that could be devastating for B person? Thank you in advance as i'm really scared with your post ( by the way, there is a lot of pluto in synastry involved: pluto-B/venus, Pluto-B/sun) sun conj asc(B), asc(B) conj venus, etc.
I wonder if that house overlay in the 12th completly is a signal of total emotional devastation for B.
Thank you again and...Help!
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Unread 04-20-2007, 08:15 AM
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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house

Hello Johanna,

I have been twice involved with persons whose main planets (in the last case sun, jupiter, mercury and maybe venus also - I ignore his time of birth) fall in my 12th house and those have been very spiritual experiences. I perceive these persons like very spiritual, they teach me spirituality. At the same time these encounters have been extremely confusing, I have told them what I would like to have, but they have never reveiled their intentions to me. To the point that even their physical apparences seems blurring in my eyes (they seem to change face. And there has been a lot of suffering in both case. I have heard that the 12th house brings to us the person with whom we were involved in the past existence, and that this past relationship can continue in this life (why not sucessfully after having learnt the tough spiritual lessons?)

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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house

How about a man's Sun synastry conjunct a woman's Moon in her 12H in Taurus?

And in composite all personal planets but the Moon in 12H?
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Unread 12-09-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Synastry planets in partner's 12th house

Shining Ray,

I have the same placements with my partner. His Sun and Mercury fall in my 12th house. Our suns are in opposition to each other (mine being in the 6th house) and Mercury is well aspected.

Most of the interpretations I've read about this placement are not very positive.

I hadn't really felt the effect of the 12th house until now. Last night, we had an argument that made me think of this placement. I was complaining about the fact that I felt that I was "hidden". We've been running into his ex girlfriends almost every day. The break up was no good so whenever we see any one of them, we run away. I snapped at this situation because I want to be able to go in whenever I want to without having to worry about who is there and who isnt. Of course... he was hiding himself... but I felt as if he was hiding me too...

Talk about hidden things...
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