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i hope herd immunity is reached at 20%
so that clubs and bars open again

i mean wtf
im not good at tinder
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We are losing our integrity, we have to change our MINDSET❗
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Hi Jup,
It is normal for secret societies to hide Phi or the Golden Ratio in the height of buildings like 72 or 555 feet 5 inches like the Washington Monument, the corner stone was aligned to Alnilam:-
"When the monument opened to the public in 1888, it stood 555 feet and 5 1/8 inches high, contained 50 flights of stairs and weighed more than 81,000 tons. It was the world’s tallest man-made structure until it was surpassed by the Eiffel Tower, completed in 1889"

.https://www.history.com/news/5-thing...ngton-monument
Five also is a code for the Golden Ratio:-
https://www.goldennumber.net/five-phi/
The Pentagon is an another example, being 5 storeys tall 5 deep and 10 segments:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon
Hi Monk - hence "....hidden in plain sight...."
In another work
Keeper of Genesis: A Quest for the Hidden Legacy of Mankind
co-authored with Robert Bauval
Hancock also noticed the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza
model the dimensions of the earth itself
and on a scale of 1:43,200.
Taking the perimeter of the Great Pyramid at its base
which is 3,023.16 feet, and multiplying that number by 43,200
yields a result of 24,734.94 miles
which is within 1% of the true equatorial circumference of the earth

The shift in the background stars
seen before the sun rises on the morning of the equinox each year
is very slight motion
being
a shift of only one degree
out of a complete circle of three hundred sixty degrees
in 71.6 years.

Since a human lifespan is only about that long
it would be very difficult to detect
without precise records
taken over the course of many human lifetimes.

Conventional historians do not even believe
that mankind began to perceive
and discuss
the phenomenon of precession
until the time of Hipparchus of Nicea (190 BC - 120 BC)
and even then only imprecisely.

However, as de Santillana and von Dechend and others

have demonstrated
the precessional number of 72
the number of years for a single degree of precession
rounded to the nearest whole number
for convenience in transmission through myth
appears in numerous legends of ancient cultures around the world

as an experienced archaeoastronomer Monk
you are aware that multiplying 72
by the three hundred sixty degrees required
to make a full circle
or a full circuit of the earth's axis, if the rate remains constant
yields 25,920 years.
Using these two numbers
72 and 25,920
other factors can be derived
including the numbers 108, 216, 432 and 540
this process is described in greater detail
in the Mathisen Corollary).

These are the principle precessional numbers.

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Hi Jup,
A lot of books have secret messages, the difficulty is knowing what is true or false!
J.K. Rowling was an astrologer before she wrote books, although only for her friends as a present, so she would know star names like Sirus Black, Orion Black or Regulus Black all named after the stars

astrologyresearch.co.uk...
www.therowlinglibrary.com...
Orion Black was named after the Constellation of Orion
harrypotter.fandom.com...
Regulus Black was named after a Royal Persian star, leader of the angles of the Earth, and alpha star of Leo.
harrypotter.fandom.com...
Hi Monk
The quote on his parents’ tombstone that inspires Harry
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death,
is also a Bible verse, 1 Corinthians 15:26.

also
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Hermione uses the Protean Charm to communicate with
the members of Dumbledore’s Army.
The name for this charm comes from Proteus
a figure from Greek mythology.
Proteus was a servant of Poseidon
who could tell you anything about the past, present, or future.
To get away from people’s endless questions
he was able to quickly transform (or transfigure)
into any animal or creature.
The word ‘protean’ still means:
“....tending or able to change frequently or easily....”




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We know when Julius Caesar died, we know when Cleopatra died
but we don't know when Jesus lived or died
i'm not saying he didn't exist, but there is so much we don't know.
25th December is probably made up, for when our calendar was updated
in 1582, they only took 10 days out up to The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD
but if they had gone back to the start of the Julian Calendar on 1st Jan 0045 BC
then the Winter Solstice would fall on 25th December
and was doing so at the time of Jesus.
Hi Jup thanks for the info.
Hi Monk - Documentary evidence outside of the New Testament
is limited

The most detailed record of the life and death of Jesus
comes from the four Gospels and other New Testament writings.
“....These are all Christian and are obviously and understandably biased
in what they report, and have to be evaluated very critically indeed
to establish any historically reliable information

But

their central claims

about Jesus as a historical figure
a Jew, with followers
executed on orders of the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate
during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius
are mentioned by later sources
with a completely different set of biases.”

Within a few decades of his lifetime
Jesus was mentioned by Jewish and Roman historians
in passages that corroborate portions of the New Testament
that describe the life and death of Jesus.
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus
twice mentions Jesus in Jewish Antiquities
his massive 20-volume history of the Jewish people that was written around 93 A.D.
Thought to have been born a few years after
the crucifixion of Jesus around 37 A.D
Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat
and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee
during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70 A.D.
Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus
“....he was around when the early church was getting started
so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus.....”

In one passage of Jewish Antiquities
debate surrounds Josephus’s lengthier passage about Jesus
known as the “Testimonium Flavianum,”
which describes a man “....who did surprising deeds....”
and was condemned to be crucified by Pilate.
Most scholars state
that Christian scribes modified portions of the passage
but did not insert it wholesale into the text.
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Historians know that Jesus was born c. 4 BC and died c. 30 AD.

Every ancient calendar was to some degree inaccurate with respect to the vernal equinox. Even the Gregorian calendar is inaccurate with respect to modern data. However, very few people observed the 25th of December as the birth of Jesus at that time, and there was nothing said at Nicaea about it, but about the date of the Passover.

It is true that the 25th of March was supposed to be the date of the vernal equinox and the 25th of December was supposed to be the date of the winter solstice in the old Julian calendar, and that these were the reasons that invented holidays were ascribed to these dates in imitation of the pagan solar cult. However, these were things happening in the late 4th and 5th century after apostasies, not in the time of the apostles and their disciples. They were removed with centuries and many generations from the time of the apostles.
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Hi, i'm not sure historians are really sure of the year 4BC or earlier, we are not sure:-
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/...born-bc-or-ad/

We are not sure of 25th December as the Winter Solstice was falling on this date during this time, Pagan ceremonies had been falling on the Winter Solstice long before Jesus.
In Scotland there is a burial mound called Maeshowe, by ancient Greek day marker being sunset before date, the Sun shines in the front door!.
This is deliberate as could using 25th December!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNII19Qn4Y
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I think the best way to prove my point is to read below under "date", if when the Julian Calendar was formed on 1st January 0045 BC, the Vernal Equinox was falling on 25th March, then the Winter Solstice was falling on 25th December.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox#Date


I'm not saying i agree with Edward Carpenter, he does get things wrong, especially the alleged Osiris birthday falling on the Winter Solstice, in the ancient Egyptian calendar, it did fall a few days before the end of the year, but the Egyptian Year began and ended in the Summer!
However symbolism regarding alleged intentional using of 25th December only creates doubt:-
https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/pcc/pcc03.htm


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Our problem with dates only gets worse, in Bethlehem in the early years Christ's birthday was celebrated on 6th January, that become Epiphany, and celebrated his first miracle, and baptism on same date as well, that sound dubious!
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/three-kings-day/
I don't know if the tale of the "The Three Kings" is true following a star, but there is a star that could have been followed to Bethlehem on 6th January, but only if they had known date of birth before they set out from Persia.
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I must admit i am more interested in eye witness reports from Egeria who was a pilgrim to the place of birth of Jesus in approx. 384 AD, she witnessed a ceremony that was very old, being the ceremony of Jesus's birth on 6th Jan.
I'm not trying to say this is true after witness reports as these then turn into myths, however i have some evidence that the early Christian doctrine did think the birth of Jesus was 6th January:-


http://www.egeriaproject.net/about_egeria.aspx

http://www.agos.com.tr/en/article/63...s-on-january-6
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Please note what i show below are parans being accurate astronomy, projected measure on fixed stars isn't accurate to location.
In a lot of bible study done by Freemasons the quote that the "Blazing Star" is the Star of Bethlehem is often quoted.
This related to "The Three Wise Men arriving in Bethlehem.
This happened on 6th January we are lead to believe by epiphany.
A star alignment on this date will carry on for a few centuries, so the year isn't important, it would cover the period of Christ.
The ancient Jews did and still do use Sunset previous to date as the start of day, so we would be looking in Bethlehem at sunset on 5th January approx. two thousand years ago, as Sun Set, Sirius was rising, i could have followed the alignment from Persia:-


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"Star of Bethlehem: In the lectures credited to Dunckerley and adopted by the Grand Lodge, the Blazing Star was said to represent “the star which led the wise men to Bethlehem, proclaiming to mankind the nativity of the Son of God, and here conducting our spiritual progress to the Author of our redemption.”
So by what Freemasons write, we can establish that the "Star of Bethlehem" is the "Blazing Star" of lodges, which must be "Sirius", links below:-
www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com...
www.timeanddate.com...


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Astronomy picture for thread section above is on private members download below. The Jewish start of the day was and is sunset previous to date, therefore we use sunset on 5th January 0004 BC, as Sirius was rising at location by astronomy and parans, projected fixed stars are inaccurate!


Being an Archaeoastronomer, i could have followed this alignment from Persia, but only if i knew DOB before i set out:-
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...&postcount=148
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Hi Monk - moderation in all things
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We
as a human race
have become reliant
on the information we are told being true and accurate.
But
what if we had been mislead
what if the real truth's were being hidden from us?
The discovery of an ancient codex
has been read
and in regards our ancient past
'it now puts the record straight'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2LHK7fDtw
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The secret beliefs of the top level of religion is very different to the grass rootes, most are Coptic in origin, as new year is 11th September in our era, link below wrote by myself under the avatar of Astronomer62.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1250054/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1250054/pg2
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1250054/pg3
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I am not surprised that you and your Faith are afraid, with your interpretation you should be very afraid.

  1. Christianity (2.1 billion)
  2. Islam (1.3 billion)
  3. Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
  4. Hinduism (900 million)
  5. Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
  6. Buddhism 376 million
  7. Primal-indigenous (300 million)
  8. African traditional and Diasporic (100 million)
  9. Sikhism (23 million)
  10. Juche (19 million)
  11. Spiritism (15 million)
  12. Judaism (14 million)
  13. Bahai (7 million)
  14. Jainism (4.2 million)
  15. Shinto (4 million)
  16. Cao Dai (4 million)
  17. Zoroastrianism (2.6 million)
  18. Tenrikyo (2 million)
  19. Neo-Paganism (1 million)
  20. Unitarian-Universalism (800,000)
As you can see from the above list, there is a lot of other religions, you claim to be Number 1 - Christian and also, you have said that you are Number 20. Unitarian.

The rest of us Numbers 2 - 19 and the unlisted 21 - ? I and they thank you for your soul searching concern for our damnation, but, we would all prefer our own version of theology.

I am sorry, that you feel so needy of making others conform to your beliefs. Maybe you should start with 2. and work your way through to 19.

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Hi Opal,
You missed Hermeticism, that effected a lot of the other religions on your list, it effects a lot of religions at a top level, which is why i didn't reply to your question to if i thought "The Saviour" existed?
It only leaves a circle of debate that goes nowhere, but research in these area's that are not faith related can give us some idea.
So can astrology give us some answers to what is electional and what may be unconscious?.....perhaps!
I will continue this in another thread section soon, but for dates 25th December and 6th January are dubious regarding Egyptian religions trying to take charge of a new religion.
You have heard of "The Lost Symbol" by Dan Brown, being his other book, you can't square the circle, by Freemasonry, of constant thread sections by your debate, religious research by astrology and astronomy will be the answer!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Symbol
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Documentary evidence besides the writings of the apostles exists in what the prophets said in advance about the Messiah.

Only secondary is the account of the disciples of the apostles such as Clement and Polycarp. Josephus indisputably wrote of the martyrdom of James the brother of the Lord shortly before the fall of Jerusalem. I don't consider the passage about Christ reliable in any reconstructed way.

Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny and the Talmud mention facts about Jesus of Nazareth and his early disciples in a blasphemous or murderous way.
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Hi Opal,
It is an astrological forum, my problem is there are no Paran experts here, i'm the only one that post's paran charts on fixed stars and as a general member my picture space that i can use is nearly gone for charts.
Obviously it doesn't matter when members join, and Jup joined after me but has many more thread sections, a lot of which are social to forum writing's however he has written a lot regarding research and has indeed helped me in my own research!
This is a premier research astrology forum, research is done on many subjects, but parans are the oldest of all astrology, why am i on my own?
Not only that, parans are the same as astronomy, when projected fixed star measure is wildly inaccurate.
With Blood Line, there isn't enough information to get any clear information:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Da_Vinci_Code


But by looking at dates with electional astrology with the "Lost Symbol" we can get some idea of belief systems, please read all Vatican related parans and Masonic, Security related parans regarding the pages below with pictures from page 52 to 58, it is a heated debate that covers the Vatican to masonic behaviour in the United States, my name and avatar on forum is Astronomer 62:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1253575/pg52
I may be on your side Opal, but i could hardly state it on thread, we don't need to be on a never ending circle regarding FAITH, we need evidence, sadly there are few paran experts here!
Hi Monk

I use Rumen Kolevs software which calculates parans

as you are aware Paranatellonta are stars or star groups

that fall upon angles

at the same time that a significant constellation or planet is also upon the angles.

They are viewed as attendants.

In ancient astrology the term was also applied to the constellations that ascended
with the zodiacal decans.
In modern astrology the term Paran (short for Paranatellonta)
is generally used to describe
stars or planets that are angular as a planet hits the ascendant, MC, Descendant or IC.
For example, the parans of Mercury would be those stars or planets
that were rising, culminating, descending of located upon the IC
at the same time that Mercury is in any or those positions.
Thus if the fixed star Regulus culminates on the Midheaven as Mercury rises on the ascendant
it is referred to as a paran of Mercury
and considered to have an influence upon its meaning.https://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/paran.html
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Hi Jup,
I think seeing is believing, i test my pictures regarding the Rising, Setting, culminating and Nadir stars regarding Starlight and Brady with astronomy software regarding the Sun's three ways to align the day, i haven't found fault yet, however i have found fault on any other paran software that doesn't give an actual picture but only throws out written data, i'm not sure now as i don't now own an up to date Solar Fire program, but a few years ago, i had to laugh how inaccurate it was regarding written parans!
So beware if you can't get a picture of the stars at location, don't just follow written jargon on software, if you can't see it, don't believe it!
I'm interested in Rumen Kolev's software, lets see if it is accurate, find any country and tell me on what day Sirius rises with the Sun by Cosmic means, being within a degree of the horizon, does it give pictures, if so please supply us with one, thanks!
Choose any country but use the Capitol, in the end it makes things easier, as some towns especially in Arab countries can have numerous spellings!
Hi Monk
Solar Fire also has a useless so-called rectification option
I switched to DELPHIC ORACLE http://www.astrology-x-files.com/del...-download.html
as well as
PORPHYRIUS MAGUS http://www.babylonianastrology.com/i...mart&Itemid=54
ALSO
kaktuzz, one of our members, is working on FREE PARANS software
and already has multiple excellent generously FREE online software options at https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...&postcount=135

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So beware if you can't get a picture of the stars at location, don't just follow written jargon on software, if you can't see it, don't believe it!
I'm interested in Rumen Kolev's software, lets see if it is accurate,
find any country and tell me on what day Sirius rises with the Sun by Cosmic means, being within a degree of the horizon, does it give pictures, if so please supply us with one, thanks!
Choose any country but use the Capitol, in the end it makes things easier, as some towns especially in Arab countries can have numerous spellings!
rumen kolevs software charts are over-sized for posting on our forum
a description is on website at http://www.babylonianastrology.com/i...mart&Itemid=54
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Hi David,
I have to say i'm not certain of my ground after looking at the Births and Deaths of all the Presidents of the United States, i need to go through all the leaders of other countries, which will take a long time before i form a thesis, however until then, i think of my finding as electional.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1256070/pg1
Several pages under my avatar Astronomer62.
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Obviously to see if something is electional astrology, you cluster events, since the birth of the modern Olympics in 1896, they all have been aligned by different methods to Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris Star or Sirius being the Isis star, if this is unconscious action, what does it say about religion?
Several pages below:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1246908/pg1


What does this mean for the First and Second World Wars, if unconscious?
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1220581/pg1


Generally it is thought in esoteric doctrines that souls go to Sirius or Alnilam, if that is true, it is dynamite for modern religions that sprung up in the last 2,000 years.
If unconscious alignments then religion has an ancient Egyptian flavour, if elected, then the top layer of religion thinks it does, i don't feel there is a middle way, either way it is highly controversial evidence.
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Hi Opal,
I have no idea if the Magi existed, my comment were, i could have followed Sirius from Persia to Bethlehem, but i would have needed to know date of birth before i set out on my journey.


The Carol we know only was written in 1857, "We Three Kings".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Three_Kings


At that lattitude the Belt of Orion doesn't rise or set together, for other alignments, i have worked out below for the time frame of Jesus Christ.
11th December, Sun sets as Alnilam is rising.
21st November, Sun rises as Sirius is setting.
11th November, Sun rises as Alnilam is setting.


The only alignment for Bethlehem that fits is Epiphany, 6th January which is sunset on the 5th, being the jewish start of the day, with Sirius rising in the East.
Even that date could have been elected purely for the alignment, i have no idea what date that Jesus was born.
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Hi David,
I'm just thinking of "Unconscious action" being non-deliberate astrology, i wonder what your thoughts are on the Illuminati, they too are aligned to Sirius, info on first page below:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1222591/pg1
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from AstroBob: Feb. 28, 2017 Photos of the heavens with Spica, Bootes & Arcturus:

https://astrobob.areavoices.com/2017...come-arcturus/

Opal:

I just glanced at this chart and date, and it could be the closest I've seen yet- i.e. 6BC

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/astr...sus-christ.php

I tried 4 BC so far: which gave me -

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I'm interested in the 8th January 0006 BC chart that you posted, it is near to 6th January and Epiphany however i wouldn't use midnight, water clocks during that time were not accurate therefore it was hard to calcalate the middle of the night.
To follow a star 2,000 years ago, it would have been by latitude not longitude, and a star can't sit over Bethlehem to follow, as the poles are tilted and stars move thoughout the night from east to west.
The exception being Polaris that is in approx. position for all locations during our era, so you can't follow that.
The 8th January chart still shows Sirius slightly higher as the Sun set on 7th January, being Jewish day start. This could have been followed to Bethlehem.
We might surmise, if the Three Kings were "Real", then coming from Persia, they have followed the Zoroastrian religion that had "Savour" myths about the God Tishtrya that was associated with Sirius, so could account for using that star:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tishtrya
As far as being a very powerful god, then in myths, Sirius has the most myths about it, especially in secret societies:-
https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-k...human-history/
Even today we can wonder if Iran is still following Sirius, it was 31st March 1925 that Iran adopted the Iranian Civil Calendar:-
https://en.key2persia.com/Iran-calendar
Why use this date?
A lot of muslim's use sunset previous to date making it sunset on 30th March 1925, when Sirius was culminating at true South in the Capital Tehran.


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Hi Leomoon,
Around 2000 years ago Arcturus by projected on the Ecliptic measure was at 26:19 Virgo, but the only time visual astrology and projected measure agree is when a star actually sits on the ecliptic, like Regulus.
As the picture you posted seems to have Arcturus near M.C., i thought i would tell you as Arcturus doesn't really sit there as is off-set from the Ecliptic.
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Hi Monk - re PARANS

Hellenistic Parans and Rotated Parans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9yXcoBMDyE




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Hi Jup,
Thanks for the info, all parans start at sunrise, sunset or modern midnight, which is why i factor in the Sun.
All info about the alleged Magi following a star really needs them to know date of birth before setting out on their journey, say they thought that Jesus was to be born as the Sun set as Sirius rises on 31st December, then it would have led them to Thebes!
I have an interesting article that i wrote about this regarding 0045 BC below:-
https://wintertriangle.wordpress.com...sun-calanders/

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Hi Opal,
We will never agree to the date of Crucifixion as the passover is mentioned, however it is like the Ecclesiastical way of marking Easter, by 21 March being the Vernal Equinox, then they wait for the first full Moon, when Easter will be the next Sunday after that, however as we are not sure of the year and Easter isn't a fixed date, guessing could be wildly inaccurate, so i can't post any parans.

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If the three wise men came from the area of Persia that i imagine, there is an alignment that is fairly recent for Iran, being 1st April 1979, when they become an Islamic State, midnight day marker, with the three stars of the Belt of Orion setting in the West, in location of Tehran:-

https://www.wbez.org/stories/islamic...c-57e241c6757f
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The constitution of Iraq comes from 15th October 2005, i have aligned it from the Capital, Baghdad, using midnight day marker when Sirius is rising along horizon in the East.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_I...nal_referendum
https://www.astrologyweekly.com/foru...&postcount=300


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The debate regarding Chronology of Jesus can be seen below:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono...sus'_birth


I have to say i'm very dubious of 25th December, that did fall in the Julian calendar on the Winter Solstice during Jesus's time.
There are other reason's, for the feast of the annunciation is held on 25th March being the Vernal Equinox in Jesus's time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feast_of_the_Annunciation
During this time in Israel, it was believed that "real" prophets died on a later date of birth or conception, please note nine months difference!

The 25 March to 25 December thing is just too neat for me regarding myths,
legends, Equinox's and Solstice's!
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There is no doubt that fiction writers look for legends to inspire them to write and when done well, they sell million's of books, the Da Vinci Code is one of these books, that keep us looking into codes and legends.
However the mystery is never solved, we don't have enough evidence!
Who would remember Jack the Ripper, if he had been caught and we knew who he was?

There is some cause to think that somewhere in latin world there could be people now who have the blood of the last Pharaoh Cleopatra, Drusilla of Mauretania had direct lineage to her!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drusil...ania_the_Elder
That would be good inspiration for a book!

Even with astrology it has been allegedly done by placing the legends of astrology into childrens books, like Michael Ward with finding a Narnia Code.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLYpen72bpY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aPQmoyzXx8
Even i did get obsessed with finding codes in the Harry Potter books LOL!
We love codes that are never solved, or the magic is gone!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1222342/pg1
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Hi Opal David and Jup,
I have always been interested in Egyptian philosophy, i was only 13 years old when i bought "The Egyptian Book of the Dead", i have often wondered about the rules of living, i still have the book which i have kept for nearly 50 years.
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Hi David,
i have always respected your research, as a researcher myself i have an idea how long it took you!
The constellation of Orion was valued as Osiris by Egyptian's, the middle or heart of Orion is the Belt of Orion and the middle star of that is Alnilam.
That is why i think it comes up in so much of my research as well as Sirius.
However, although i feel most of the interpretation of Sirius is correct by astrologers, i think the interpretation of Alnilam is completely wrong and under valued as an important star, i think it is the equal of Sirius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ATeHR5Cb_0
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I think all religions have "borrowed" from each other, therefore perhaps blending of idea's are the right approach to any interpretation of God.
I don't believe that we have "one Life" to reach spiritual perfection, so i do believe we all have souls and reincarnation.
A lot of my life i have investigated spiritual matters, i'm not sure i believe in demons but i have had experiences, that many would!
I tend still to try to stay in the middle of debate that is highly controversial!
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Hi Jesusistheway,
You have a right to your beliefs, however please note most Eunuchs were looking for work in an effort to feed themselves and had their sexual organs cut off as it was the only way that an emperor would trust them in guarding a harem, i'm pleased that i don't have to make that choice!
Some Englishmen are scholars, but not most, most countries can and do have many scholars.
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