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Unread 01-01-2020, 09:15 PM
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These are the charts

This is the synastry chart and composite chart


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Unread 01-02-2020, 07:16 AM
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Re: These are the charts

Here we see a person with mercury/jupiter on the ascendent opposing Neptune on the descendent, upbeat and communicative, but prone to illusions about their partner.
And from this we would expect to see them attracted to unrealistic too idealistic relationships.
So, you are paired with someone who has north node on your ascendent, but with Saturn there to cool down your ideas and your expression. This can be a damper. And on your 7th of relationships they have Pluto, the planet of possession, jealousy, power, singleness, with south node of paying off past karma.
They also have Neptune conjunct descendent, so in effect both of you relate on this plane of having unrealistic illusions about your partner.
Jupiter rules your descendent, and describes the type of person you are attracted to, and it is on your ascendent, so this is an important element in your self expression. Between Jupiter and Neptune you probably resonate strongly with strong pisces types, either sun or moon or ascendent /descendent.
Your friend has a pisces moon, so this is a connecting link for you.
Their Uranus, co-ruler of their Aquarius descendent, trines your sun, and this is a strong tie as well. Also, their gemini sun on your ascendent draws you together.
The sun/mars conjunction is a strong physical attraction, although it can be sometimes overwhelming and too much energy to handle.
Venus, the love planet, is fundamental in a love relationship.
Your Venus/mars conjunction squares your Saturn, so you tend to be physically reserved, while at the same time thirsting for affection. The venus/mars conjunction is in sensual taurus, squaring egotistical Saturn in Leo. There is no aspect table, but it looks like your Leo moon is involved in this aspect as well. Your partner's Neptune squares the Venus/mars conjunction, sapping energy, idealising, and making it difficult to arrive at a realistic down to earth contact, and you will have difficulty expressing your individual needs.
Their Venus on the other hand is conjunct Jupiter in a wide trine with their moon, so they are very much at ease with and generous with their affections, relaxed emotionally, and maybe a little lazy and laid back. With this type of aspect as part of their make up, it is difficult for them to understand your reserve.
It looks like the only contact the Venus/jupiter makes with you is the square to Pluto. This is a sexy contact, but you will tend to try to transform them, and control them.
The composite has an energetic moon/mars/mercury/sun stellium, but the Saturn/neptune opposition on the ascendent/ descendent axis will make this all difficult to express in the relationship. The relationship will feel stifling, and over time either remain unrealistic, or just dissolve in delusion.
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Here we see a person with mercury/jupiter on the ascendent opposing Neptune on the descendent, upbeat and communicative, but prone to illusions about their partner.
And from this we would expect to see them attracted to unrealistic too idealistic relationships.
So, you are paired with someone who has north node on your ascendent, but with Saturn there to cool down your ideas and your expression. This can be a damper. And on your 7th of relationships they have Pluto, the planet of possession, jealousy, power, singleness, with south node of paying off past karma.
They also have Neptune conjunct descendent, so in effect both of you relate on this plane of having unrealistic illusions about your partner.
Jupiter rules your descendent, and describes the type of person you are attracted to, and it is on your ascendent, so this is an important element in your self expression. Between Jupiter and Neptune you probably resonate strongly with strong pisces types, either sun or moon or ascendent /descendent.
Your friend has a pisces moon, so this is a connecting link for you.
Their Uranus, co-ruler of their Aquarius descendent, trines your sun, and this is a strong tie as well. Also, their gemini sun on your ascendent draws you together.
The sun/mars conjunction is a strong physical attraction, although it can be sometimes overwhelming and too much energy to handle.
Venus, the love planet, is fundamental in a love relationship.
Your Venus/mars conjunction squares your Saturn, so you tend to be physically reserved, while at the same time thirsting for affection. The venus/mars conjunction is in sensual taurus, squaring egotistical Saturn in Leo. There is no aspect table, but it looks like your Leo moon is involved in this aspect as well. Your partner's Neptune squares the Venus/mars conjunction, sapping energy, idealising, and making it difficult to arrive at a realistic down to earth contact, and you will have difficulty expressing your individual needs.
Their Venus on the other hand is conjunct Jupiter in a wide trine with their moon, so they are very much at ease with and generous with their affections, relaxed emotionally, and maybe a little lazy and laid back. With this type of aspect as part of their make up, it is difficult for them to understand your reserve.
It looks like the only contact the Venus/jupiter makes with you is the square to Pluto. This is a sexy contact, but you will tend to try to transform them, and control them.
The composite has an energetic moon/mars/mercury/sun stellium, but the Saturn/neptune opposition on the ascendent/ descendent axis will make this all difficult to express in the relationship. The relationship will feel stifling, and over time either remain unrealistic, or just dissolve in delusion.
Thank you so much Elena for the clarification. So this would not be a soul connection or karmic relationship or any kind? Just an illusion?
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Unread 01-02-2020, 07:41 AM
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Neptune on saturn/south node would indicate some past karma debt to be paid, and you in this relationship in effect do not show yourself to the other as you really are, so it isn't necessarily a conscious deception on your part, but something left over from a past contact that you have to overcome now.
So, both, a contact that will be victim of your illusions, and a chance to pay off your past debt to this person.
Their Saturn will demand hard reality and not want any of your illusions, trying to get you to be more transparent and realistic. You will reply with confusion.
Lots of work involved here to resolve it.
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Neptune on saturn/south node would indicate some past karma debt to be paid, and you in this relationship in effect do not show yourself to the other as you really are, so it isn't necessarily a conscious deception on your part, but something left over from a past contact that you have to overcome now.
So, both, a contact that will be victim of your illusions, and a chance to pay off your past debt to this person.
Their Saturn will demand hard reality and not want any of your illusions, trying to get you to be more transparent and realistic. You will reply with confusion.
Lots of work involved here to resolve it.
Thank you that makes a lot of sense. So pisces moon person has to repay this person (karmic debt)

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Unread 01-02-2020, 08:00 AM
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No, if you are blue in the chart, you are Neptune and you have to repay the debt.
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Unread 01-02-2020, 08:03 AM
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No, if you are blue in the chart, you are Neptune and you have to repay the debt.
So would this indicate a past life connection? Also would this be a one sided thing because of the debt? I'm pretty new to this as you can probably tell haha but would the connection be felt both ways? or is that not something you can interpret from this information alone. Sorry for being such a nusance
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Unread 01-02-2020, 08:09 AM
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What is karma? It is something left over from a past life.
That doesn't mean necessarily a love relationship, it could have been a parent/child, a business partnership, a friendship, a client/merchant. You gave out lies and deception, and now you have to recuperate in this life what you did to them before.
In any relationship contact, one puts out energy that the other receives.
You put out Neptune, and they put out Saturn.
You will receive their Saturn energy, restriction, reality, and they will receive your Neptune energy, deception illusion confusion.
Each will rebel against the unfriendly energy of the other.
As I wrote, quite a bit of work to be done here, and it won't be easy.
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Unread 01-02-2020, 08:22 AM
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What is karma? It is something left over from a past life.
That doesn't mean necessarily a love relationship, it could have been a parent/child, a business partnership, a friendship, a client/merchant. You gave out lies and deception, and now you have to recuperate in this life what you did to them before.
In any relationship contact, one puts out energy that the other receives.
You put out Neptune, and they put out Saturn.
You will receive their Saturn energy, restriction, reality, and they will receive your Neptune energy, deception illusion confusion.
Each will rebel against the unfriendly energy of the other.
As I wrote, quite a bit of work to be done here, and it won't be easy.
So how would you describe the very very intense sexual attraction I feel? would that just help bind us together? The feelings I feel are definietly very romantic/emotional and very very physical in nature and I have even considered this a twin flame at one stage which would probably be the delusions
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What is a twin flame according to you?
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