D-Rok
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I was considering the idea of karma and old souls as I perused forums based on theories about karma and old souls. Some people have said the position of Saturn determines how old a soul is. Others think souls are timeless.
I myself have been wrestling with the idea of souls for a good several months (in a strong, everyday sort of fashion). What makes an 'old soul' or a 'young soul'? I remember finding stuff on a site involving Michael teachings and determining how old a soul is. Because I have been debating soul age between me and a close friend, I can safely say that it makes you feel like total **** whenever you consider that someone you knew might be "an older soul" than you -- who here is with me? "Ah, NO! WHYYY!" And then the Michael teachings categorize souls. In my opinion that's kind of a dick move on the Universe's part...sure, we all make mistakes and everything, and yes, I might nag on forums here because I am completely unsure of myself, but I mean...the idea that souls are older than another is, while at one end, alluring and possibly satisfying, on the other end lies the presumed agreeable notion that All-That-Is has always existed and will always exist. Therefore, each of our souls is infinite and part of that which is All-That-Is . . . right?
Can you even BEGIN to assume to know who is an older soul by a birth chart?
Well, I will probably never, ever, ever know. Yet those theories about Pluto's placements, or Saturn's placements, or your house planets...I myself am one who likes to soak in EVERYONE'S opinions...because everyone, in my opinion has something to offer! Even if it includes a crude or possibly crazy theory, I STILL accept it. And compare theories. "Well, in this case it's this, but what about in that case?" Hahaha, it's quite boggling.
I suppose deep down I am searching for the truth on an external level, because then I feel comfortable searching for the truth on an internal level. You may call me as childish a soul for not sticking to one form of ideas, but the possibilities are endless...yet, for me doing that, WOULD that make me childish?
And then there is the factor of karma. You can change karma by a longshot, so I've been told. Do the right things, keep yourself cool and level-headed, that kind of thing. But what sort of karma do we each have based on our astrological birth charts? Furthermore, can anyone know they have cleared their karma? Personally, I don't think that's possible...I believe everyone has stuff to learn and let go of. But then again, I don't know (but I sure as all goodness wish I did...).
I look at my chart and, on one side, I feel like I don't have much to clear. Or maybe I am like...one of the youngest souls on the planet. I have been told by a reader a looong time ago something along the lines of this life being a 'ride' or something pleasant like that. PLEASANT!? In the case of a young soul, excuse me, but NO, I want to learn as much as possible to get out of this cycle! However on another light, perhaps this is just a joke existence to enjoy. I can't enjoy it if that is the case.
Then you have my friend's chart, who has planetary aspects up the wazoo and Pluto in the 12th.
I am interested in hearing anyone's ideas on karma and the release of it in current lifetimes, as well as the ideas of possibility in determining someone's 'soul age' through birth charts. I would also like to know what you guys think of karmic releases between our two charts, and what we have to let go of to move on, and also where you guys think our souls are in our evolutionary paths.
Though I shudder to think I am young and childish as a soul based on my birth chart in comparison to my friend, well, I guess we shall see.
I myself have been wrestling with the idea of souls for a good several months (in a strong, everyday sort of fashion). What makes an 'old soul' or a 'young soul'? I remember finding stuff on a site involving Michael teachings and determining how old a soul is. Because I have been debating soul age between me and a close friend, I can safely say that it makes you feel like total **** whenever you consider that someone you knew might be "an older soul" than you -- who here is with me? "Ah, NO! WHYYY!" And then the Michael teachings categorize souls. In my opinion that's kind of a dick move on the Universe's part...sure, we all make mistakes and everything, and yes, I might nag on forums here because I am completely unsure of myself, but I mean...the idea that souls are older than another is, while at one end, alluring and possibly satisfying, on the other end lies the presumed agreeable notion that All-That-Is has always existed and will always exist. Therefore, each of our souls is infinite and part of that which is All-That-Is . . . right?
Can you even BEGIN to assume to know who is an older soul by a birth chart?
Well, I will probably never, ever, ever know. Yet those theories about Pluto's placements, or Saturn's placements, or your house planets...I myself am one who likes to soak in EVERYONE'S opinions...because everyone, in my opinion has something to offer! Even if it includes a crude or possibly crazy theory, I STILL accept it. And compare theories. "Well, in this case it's this, but what about in that case?" Hahaha, it's quite boggling.
I suppose deep down I am searching for the truth on an external level, because then I feel comfortable searching for the truth on an internal level. You may call me as childish a soul for not sticking to one form of ideas, but the possibilities are endless...yet, for me doing that, WOULD that make me childish?
And then there is the factor of karma. You can change karma by a longshot, so I've been told. Do the right things, keep yourself cool and level-headed, that kind of thing. But what sort of karma do we each have based on our astrological birth charts? Furthermore, can anyone know they have cleared their karma? Personally, I don't think that's possible...I believe everyone has stuff to learn and let go of. But then again, I don't know (but I sure as all goodness wish I did...).
I look at my chart and, on one side, I feel like I don't have much to clear. Or maybe I am like...one of the youngest souls on the planet. I have been told by a reader a looong time ago something along the lines of this life being a 'ride' or something pleasant like that. PLEASANT!? In the case of a young soul, excuse me, but NO, I want to learn as much as possible to get out of this cycle! However on another light, perhaps this is just a joke existence to enjoy. I can't enjoy it if that is the case.
Then you have my friend's chart, who has planetary aspects up the wazoo and Pluto in the 12th.
I am interested in hearing anyone's ideas on karma and the release of it in current lifetimes, as well as the ideas of possibility in determining someone's 'soul age' through birth charts. I would also like to know what you guys think of karmic releases between our two charts, and what we have to let go of to move on, and also where you guys think our souls are in our evolutionary paths.
Though I shudder to think I am young and childish as a soul based on my birth chart in comparison to my friend, well, I guess we shall see.