blacksun?
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Recently I began to confirm by research the thesis that where Mercury is the mind in general, Pallas determines the deep mind - by which I don't mean the imagination, but the 'terribly incisive' mind, the true "ace of swords".
Einstein has Pallas on the 8th degree of Aries - the traditional exaltation point of the Sun. That says nothing but it's symbolic for the status Pallas should have. Einstein has Mercury/Saturn/Fortune/Lilith on 4,3,2,1 Aries respectively.
Interestingly though, the incisiveness of Pallas generally pertains not so much to science, but rather to politics and philosophy of morals. It determines the type of understanding that knows what it is doing.
By comparison, Einstein did not necessarily know what he was doing in a moral sense - he did not see the all the consequences of his actions.
Let's look at powerful minds. I am going to do this honestly and search for people I have not looked at.
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David Rockefeller has Pallas conjunct Mars and wide conjunct Jupiter
Acute sextile with Saturn
Quindecile to Pluto
By all appearances, Rockefeller had a perfect understanding of actions and their consequences - both active and contemplative. Incredible drive to know the reality of power.
2
Silvio Berlusconi: no outstanding aspects. Apparently the man doesn't actually know what he is doing. No big surprise.
3
JFK has Pallas conjunct Lilith in X
Square Mars - Mercury-Jupiter stellium
I've seen many Pallas-square Jupiter in very significant people of very different natures. In general Jupiter squares fortunate - Jupiter is "generous" enough to make squares work for the native if a little honesty is practiced. Squares give excess energy, Jupiter stands in positive relation to excess, resonates well with it.
Pallas with Lilith suggests the knowledge of dark things that was quite evidently a factor in his tenth house life.
4, 5, 6
Trotsky has it on his south node, Mark Zuckerberg on the Midheaven (his only planet there, suggesting the brilliance of his work rather than of his teleological mind), Marx has it square MC, sextile Jupiter, conjunct (3°) Saturn in I and in sextile to the midpoint of his 2° wide Sun/Moon conjunction.
So far, it turns out the most consequence-conscious people have the strongest aspects, which was my premise.
Out of curiosity (not because they are necessarily very great minds), let's look at Obama's aspects, and those of Romney.
7
Obama has it trine (4°) to his MC (the only major aspect to his MC) and sextile Saturn and opposite Mars and inconjunct Uranus and SN (3°). Quite something (I find it especially interesting that he has so little to his MC, except Pallas)
8
Romney: late in X, square to Jupiter-Moon (3°) - that's it as far as major aspects are concerned - seems he just knows very well what to do for his own benefit, and knows how to handle himself in realms of power. Obama seems to more conscious president, but is not really a miracle-maker either.
9, 10
Al Gore has it conjunct his Sun and trine the midpoint of his wide ASC/Pluto conjunction. Thomas Edison, tight conjunct Uranus, sharp opposite Vesta (Vesta require study, is also incredibly strong, imposes powerful restraints, can completely subdue Mars in synastry) wider opposite MC (4°). Only aspects to MC save a sextile to Fortune which thus trines the MC.
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Last pick for today - Napoleon Bonaparte -
Pallas tightly conjunct Sun in the middle of X, with Ceres, the only things aspecting his Sun.
I'm calling it a night - thanks for reading.
Einstein has Pallas on the 8th degree of Aries - the traditional exaltation point of the Sun. That says nothing but it's symbolic for the status Pallas should have. Einstein has Mercury/Saturn/Fortune/Lilith on 4,3,2,1 Aries respectively.
Interestingly though, the incisiveness of Pallas generally pertains not so much to science, but rather to politics and philosophy of morals. It determines the type of understanding that knows what it is doing.
By comparison, Einstein did not necessarily know what he was doing in a moral sense - he did not see the all the consequences of his actions.
Let's look at powerful minds. I am going to do this honestly and search for people I have not looked at.
1
David Rockefeller has Pallas conjunct Mars and wide conjunct Jupiter
Acute sextile with Saturn
Quindecile to Pluto
By all appearances, Rockefeller had a perfect understanding of actions and their consequences - both active and contemplative. Incredible drive to know the reality of power.
2
Silvio Berlusconi: no outstanding aspects. Apparently the man doesn't actually know what he is doing. No big surprise.
3
JFK has Pallas conjunct Lilith in X
Square Mars - Mercury-Jupiter stellium
I've seen many Pallas-square Jupiter in very significant people of very different natures. In general Jupiter squares fortunate - Jupiter is "generous" enough to make squares work for the native if a little honesty is practiced. Squares give excess energy, Jupiter stands in positive relation to excess, resonates well with it.
Pallas with Lilith suggests the knowledge of dark things that was quite evidently a factor in his tenth house life.
4, 5, 6
Trotsky has it on his south node, Mark Zuckerberg on the Midheaven (his only planet there, suggesting the brilliance of his work rather than of his teleological mind), Marx has it square MC, sextile Jupiter, conjunct (3°) Saturn in I and in sextile to the midpoint of his 2° wide Sun/Moon conjunction.
So far, it turns out the most consequence-conscious people have the strongest aspects, which was my premise.
Out of curiosity (not because they are necessarily very great minds), let's look at Obama's aspects, and those of Romney.
7
Obama has it trine (4°) to his MC (the only major aspect to his MC) and sextile Saturn and opposite Mars and inconjunct Uranus and SN (3°). Quite something (I find it especially interesting that he has so little to his MC, except Pallas)
8
Romney: late in X, square to Jupiter-Moon (3°) - that's it as far as major aspects are concerned - seems he just knows very well what to do for his own benefit, and knows how to handle himself in realms of power. Obama seems to more conscious president, but is not really a miracle-maker either.
9, 10
Al Gore has it conjunct his Sun and trine the midpoint of his wide ASC/Pluto conjunction. Thomas Edison, tight conjunct Uranus, sharp opposite Vesta (Vesta require study, is also incredibly strong, imposes powerful restraints, can completely subdue Mars in synastry) wider opposite MC (4°). Only aspects to MC save a sextile to Fortune which thus trines the MC.
11
Last pick for today - Napoleon Bonaparte -
Pallas tightly conjunct Sun in the middle of X, with Ceres, the only things aspecting his Sun.
I'm calling it a night - thanks for reading.
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?) and exactly conjunct my Descendant. Exact square to Pluto, and an exact trine to Jupiter. Another trine to my Sun, but it's just over 2 degrees (does it have to be exact?). I'm not sure what that means 
my Pallas is also joined by my Vesta (5 degrees conjunct though, also in the 7th house). I guess I'm really rigid in my thinking because of the Pallas/Saturn conjunction (Pallas and Saturn also square my Mercury in Scorpio, though with an 8 degree orb). 
